The state of NeoGAF

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$30 Italian meal said:
I agree and we intend to be more transparent with decisions and information going forward. We just have our hands full currently and we're still catching up. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience.
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Can you explain why the TOS says that NeoGAF can modify or exploit users' PMs for entertainment and commercial purposes? Most sites only say that PMs can be viewed by the direct recipient and may be shared in response to a request by law enforcement.

Is NeoGAF viewing or editing users' PMs?

If none of the above are applicable, can you please revise the Terms of Service and Privacy Policy to state that NeoGAF will not edit PMs without consent, and will not view PMs unless it is in response to a valid request by law enforcement?
 
Nice to see new mods.

I hope you guys have read the criticisms in this thread about the board and how it's been run in the past and improve on it, because it's been a much needed change.

I'm interested to see where things go now. Wish you all the best.
 
$30 Italian meal said:
The persona is not going to stick. I'm just trying to lighten the mood a little bit.
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Good on ya for trying, but accusations of sexual misconduct, revenge porn, and bragging about grabbing women, all from the head of the site is going to bring a dark mood.

But, hey at least he shut down half the site and blamed the off-topic section for being toxic and commented on the mental state of his accuser.
 
dolabla said:
Nice to see new mods.

I hope you guys have read the criticisms in this thread about the board and how it's been run in the past and improve on it, because it's been a much needed change.

I'm interested to see where things go now. Wish you all the best.
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We have been reading the criticism in the thread and this was suggested by a number of users. We agreed that it was a good idea and we're moving towards fully implementing it. I'm just the first.
 
$30 Italian meal said:
I agree and we intend to be more transparent with decisions and information going forward. We just have our hands full currently and we're still catching up. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience.
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I am glad that you're moving in the right direction :thumbs-up:

This post shows more integrity and self-awareness than the entire ~6 paragraphs of the OP of this thread. The owner of the site could learn from whoever is pseudo-anonymously posting through this account.
 
Here's my two cents.

I joined Neogaf in 2006. It was a pretty good forum. Breaking leaks, high activity, people who you could discuss even the most niche of videogames with. Plenty of funny stories and banter in OT too. There was always a "progressive" undertone and that was fine, it was nice not to have all the immature shit. We had a wide range of people all with different beliefs and plenty of debate but it was for the most part respectful and seeing all these diverse opinions really created great discussion.

However the past few years, really the past 3-5 at a guess something happened. You jumped on board the SJW crazy train. It started slowly at first, a few bans here and there for some people, bans for people really going against the popular opinion who wouldn't back down from defending their own opinion. The crazy train picked up speed though, it got worse and worse every year. Which leads us to the past year which is hands down the most facist and disgusting forum I've ever seen. Anyone who didn't bow down to the extreme-left ideology was banned. You either stayed silent or you were banned. Shit, people would go through each others post history to try and find who was having "thought crimes". It was like Invasion of the body snatchers.

Oh he critisized Hilary?

"TRUMP LOVING XENOPHOBIC TRANSPHOBIC HOMOPHOBIC RACIST NAZIIIII""
invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-final-scene.jpg


And then bam. 300 person dogpile and the mods came in to pull the trigger.


It wasn't just Neogaf though. Anyone outside the forum got it just as bad. This forum THRIVED on Witchunts. "They dared to question to progressive agenda? they didn't have minorities make up 80% of their videogame? whats that they dared to have a woman wear tight pants.....cus women don't do that in real life oh no.." off to ruin lives it was. With their campaigns to boycott, put people out of business, get them sacked, ruin their lives, affect their friendships and careers.
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It's funny. This forum was obsessed with toxicity in gaming, yet as we've seen over the weekend EVERYONE ELSE viewed Neogaf as the most toxic environment in the industry. A fact you even allude to in your post Tyler. Neogaf was the bad guy all along.
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You lot thought you were the voice of the industry. You thought you spoke for the people. Nope, turns out literally every other forum out there thought you were just a load of pathetic, far left loonies.

You say you just want to get back to videogames, no more social and political discourse. Too little too late, this is exactly what you should have done years ago. That's all people wanted. But no you cultivated this SJW enviroment. What started as the odd thread about social issues quickly spiraled into a situation where every other thread was now about this progressive shit in gaming. It wasn't even good discussion either, it was just psychos wanting to go ruin lives because a developer didn't cater to their ideological world view. It was toxic. I find it funny that you only want to ban social and political discourse when it comes back to bite you in the ass.

The irony of all this is that you were brought down by the beast you created. You helped to grow this crazy SJW cult and it ended up being the death of you. You can't put the genie back in the bottle now Tyler.

"Women must be believed at all costs" says the SJWs. I get that, I understand why it's important especially as most are speaking out about men in power. However when you create a situation in which women are to be believed in their accusations at all times then it kind of leaves the people accused fucked doesn't it. Fucking cowardly how you're all "believe women...except the one that accused me, bitch is crazy yo". You cowardly, sniveling hypocrite. On the topic of that it's obvious you're into the pickupartist shit. "I had to grab her ass to show her I'm in charge" lmfao. You creepy cunt.

You fucked yourself though because all over the internet the headline is now "Neogaf owner accused of sexual harassment, bans talk of social discourse". Really makes you look guilty.

Your forum was the worst thing to happen to the videogame industry. You loved it though. Thought you were a big shot. Thought people were afraid of you while you had your lynch mobs and hate groups. Now you're a laughing stock. Good luck at next e3, you'll just be known as the creepy sex pest who exposes himself to women uninvited and without your lynch mobs I'm sure everyone will be quick to tell you what they think of you. Pointy eared fuck.


This forum used to be your throne. Now it serves as some kind of shitty memorial where people only come here to laugh at you. Look at it. It's a ghost town. The only people still here are throwing their accounts away making fun of you for a laugh. It's still going on. The SJW crowd won't touch you anymore. Every non-sjw who you forced to stay silent by threat of ban is done with you.All of the big names are done with you. Without the leakers and content creators you're forum popularity is going to dwindle dramatically. You're done Tyler. It's over. The industry will be better off without you and Neogaf.




Moderation will also see changes. Over the years, moderators changed from simply people who made sure discussion stay civil into personalities. It's because of that, many were targeted for harassment and other things.
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You cunts too. The mods LOVED being personalities. Stuck up pretentious cunts who thought they were special because they got made a mod. They carried out this wimps facist whims without question in order to keep their place. When the revolt happened it's no surprise that the prison guards got attacked.

You're all so fucking pathetic that you have to remain anonymous. A way to suck dick for e-power without the old guys turning on you. lmfao.


Crossing Eden said:
So yea that's not what happened. Especially the part about me me supposedly saying that there's no point in discussing violence in games. That's not what I said and you know it. I stated the intention behind suddenly bringing up video game violence in such a thread, (i.e., one focused on fetishization of women), and how it wasn't a genuine attempt to actually discuss violence in the context of this medium. And at the same time I had straight up addressed the fact that video game violence is in fact getting toned down at the same time. Nor did I call anyone a pedophile but rather blatantly pointed out the creepy tone of the game's threads.

And no, I didn't contact Besada, who also didn't threatened you at all. But rather called out your thought policing argument.

So yea you aren't some victim of a draconian community or moderation. Nice try tho.


Here's me praising the amount of work that went into the ultimate ninja series, as well as dedicating a thread to the improvements to animation in BOTW. Also gone on record stating multiple times that one of my main inspirations for becoming an animator was Ueda. Nice try tho.
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You Crossing Eden. You were one of, perhaps the biggest SJW Cuck on here. Every fucking thread you derailed with your pointless SJW shit. Of course due to the nazi mods and the fact that only SJWs were left at this point, that's it - the thread now had to be about that. Once someone made a social justice post the thread was now about that. You weren't allowed to get back on topic. Everyone had to pander to your delusional and retarded world view. I never really used this word before but you're a fucking cuck of the highest magnitude. Sort yourself out.
 
$30 Italian meal said:
We have been reading the criticism in the thread and this was suggested by a number of users. We agreed that it was a good idea and we're moving towards fully implementing it. I'm just the first.
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Oh man I'd love to see the "number" of users who thought making mods anonymous was a great idea.
 
Dizzy said:
Here's my two cents.

I joined Neogaf in 2006. It was a pretty good forum. Breaking leaks, high activity, people who you could discuss even the most niche of videogames with. Plenty of funny stories and banter in OT too. There was always a "progressive" undertone and that was fine, it was nice not to have all the immature shit. We had a wide range of people all with different beliefs and plenty of debate but it was for the most part respectful and seeing all these diverse opinions really created great discussion.

However the past few years, really the past 3-5 at a guess something happened. You jumped on board the SJW crazy train. It started slowly at first, a few bans here and there for some people, bans for people really going against the popular opinion who wouldn't back down from defending their own opinion. The crazy train picked up speed though, it got worse and worse every year. Which leads us to the past year which is hands down the most facist and disgusting forum I've ever seen. Anyone who didn't bow down to the extreme-left ideology was banned. You either stayed silent or you were banned. Shit, people would go through each others post history to try and find who was having "thought crimes". It was like Invasion of the body snatchers.

Oh he critisized Hilary?

"TRUMP LOVING XENOPHOBIC TRANSPHOBIC HOMOPHOBIC RACIST NAZIIIII""
invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-final-scene.jpg


And then bam. 300 person dogpile and the mods came in to pull the trigger.


It wasn't just Neogaf though. Anyone outside the forum got it just as bad. This forum THRIVED on Witchunts. "They dared to question to progressive agenda? they didn't have minorities make up 80% of their videogame? whats that they dared to have a woman wear tight pants.....cus women don't do that in real life oh no.." off to ruin lives it was. With their campaigns to boycott, put people out of business, get them sacked, ruin their lives, affect their friendships and careers.
angrymob.png



It's funny. This forum was obsessed with toxicity in gaming, yet as we've seen over the weekend EVERYONE ELSE viewed Neogaf as the most toxic environment in the industry. A fact you even allude to in your post Tyler. Neogaf was the bad guy all along.
8ubGFLt.gif



You lot thought you were the voice of the industry. You thought you spoke for the people. Nope, turns out literally every other forum out there thought you were just a load of pathetic, far left loonies.

You say you just want to get back to videogames, no more social and political discourse. Too little too late, this is exactly what you should have done years ago. That's all people wanted. But no you cultivated this SJW enviroment. What started as the odd thread about social issues quickly spiraled into a situation where every other thread was now about this progressive shit in gaming. It wasn't even good discussion either, it was just psychos wanting to go ruin lives because a developer didn't cater to their ideological world view. It was toxic. I find it funny that you only want to ban social and political discourse when it comes back to bite you in the ass.

The irony of all this is that you were brought down by the beast you created. You helped to grow this crazy SJW cult and it ended up being the death of you. You can't put the genie back in the bottle now Tyler.

"Women must be believed at all costs" says the SJWs. I get that, I understand why it's important especially as most are speaking out about men in power. However when you create a situation in which women are to be believed in their accusations at all times then it kind of leaves the people accused fucked doesn't it. Fucking cowardly how you're all "believe women...except the one that accused me, bitch is crazy yo". You cowardly, sniveling hypocrite. On the topic of that it's obvious you're into the pickupartist shit. "I had to grab her ass to show her I'm in charge" lmfao. You creepy cunt.

You fucked yourself though because all over the internet the headline is now "Neogaf owner accused of sexual harassment, bans talk of social discourse". Really makes you look guilty.

Your forum was the worst thing to happen to the videogame industry. You loved it though. Thought you were a big shot. Thought people were afraid of you while you had your lynch mobs and hate groups. Now you're a laughing stock. Good luck at next e3, you'll just be known as the creepy sex pest who exposes himself to women uninvited and without your lynch mobs I'm sure everyone will be quick to tell you what they think of you. Pointy eared fuck.


This forum used to be your throne. Now it serves as some kind of shitty memorial where people only come here to laugh at you. Look at it. It's a ghost town. The only people still here are throwing their accounts away making fun of you for a laugh. It's still going on. The SJW crowd won't touch you anymore. Every non-sjw who you forced to stay silent by threat of ban is done with you.All of the big names are done with you. Without the leakers and content creators you're forum popularity is going to dwindle dramatically. You're done Tyler. It's over. The industry will be better off without you and Neogaf.





You cunts too. The mods LOVED being personalities. Stuck up pretentious cunts who thought they were special because they got made a mod. They carried out this wimps facist whims without question in order to keep their place. When the revolt happened it's no surprise that the prison guards got attacked.

You're all so fucking pathetic that you have to remain anonymous. A way to suck dick for e-power without the old guys turning on you. lmfao.



You Crossing Eden. You were one of, perhaps the biggest SJW Cuck on here. Every fucking thread you derailed with your pointless SJW shit. Of course due to the nazi mods and the fact that only SJWs were left at this point, that's it - the thread now had to be about that. Once someone made a social justice post the thread was now about that. You weren't allowed to get back on topic. Everyone had to pander to your delusional and retarded world view. I never really used this word before but you're a fucking cuck of the highest magnitude. Sort yourself out.
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How awful that GAF didn't tolerate the sort of people that used terms like 'SJW cucks'! Such insight. SO much to contribute
 
In less than a week, NeoGAF has become yet another online video game forum where people can cry about Anita Sarkeesian, white knights, SJWs and virtue signaling. And I can only see it getting worse as more and more people leave and the rats come out of their hiding holes. How sad.
 
Oh god, that Dizzy guy just posted a suicide thread and I thought it was a parody of Trump supporters.

He actually said "SJW cuck" in this thread and meant it?

I feel so embarrassed for him.
 
RastaMentality said:
bish was a good mod

one of the only ones who took a harsh stance against anti blackness

we miss him
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He was even more toxic than the people migrating to the other forum, he literally mass banned hundreds of accounts for no reason after the elections as some kind of show of power or something. The dude had lost his marbles.
 
JDB said:
Yeah, but now he can say 'we' whenever the mod 'team' does anything!
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Evilore uses the Royal We in almost all of his posts when he is to blame, or denies fault and blames things out of his control -- chaos, the mood of the internet, Off Topic posts, and so on. I doubt that $30 Italian Meal is Evilore because he apologized for the inconvenience of moving slowly with transparency with I. It's not like him to take ownership for those sorts of things, in fact, he usually just attacks someone when someone suggests that he make different decisions.

$30 Italian Meal is also way too active to be Evilore.

Though, maybe I'm wrong and the pseudonym is an outlet for him trying to do the right thing, because he may not be able to under his regular persona.
 
Think that's the first time I've seen SJW Cuck written on this site. Maybe a mod should use that a username next? And throw in a relic from OT as an avatar to top it off?
 
I'm actually curious what this ordeal has done to the monetary value of NeoGAF. I'm sure it is/was one of the top trafficked video game websites, probably worth millions to sell. I'd imagine this event has stripped away millions in value.
 
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