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The Tales of Vesperia |OT|

JSnake

Member
EverSoTrendy said:
I'm surprised at the game length, it took me 60 hours to beat... Even without grinding the game is very long. I was seriously impressed with TOV, most def a top 10 for me.

It took me 85 hours.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Yay, all Giganto Monsters slayed. Too bad I missed the sidequest and will have to do it again anyway. :(

They aren't really hard at all if you wait until near end game, taking them on at earlier levels would be damn hard I imagine.
 

Jonnyram

Member
Grinding cooking is a little bit of a chore. All the ingredients are in the Spa area, and the only free rest points are in Yuri's room or Judith's home town. Wish I had the "99 item" upgrade already :/
 

Spruchy

Member
JSnake said:
It took me 85 hours.

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Darkman M

Member
Jonnyram said:
Grinding cooking is a little bit of a chore. All the ingredients are in the Spa area, and the only free rest points are in Yuri's room or Judith's home town. Wish I had the "99 item" upgrade already :/


That's why i went ahead and beat the game 80 hours in, now with all these grade bonus achievements will come much easier.
 

Hcoregamer00

The 'H' stands for hentai.
Farore said:
Same here... and I don't even have a 360 yet :p ...

Don't worry, same here.

I got the special edition in the mail, but no Jasper 360 to play it on.

Oh well, when I get my 360, it will have a ton of games to play on it :lol
 

Blackjack

Member
DIE IN A FIRE, SECRET MISSION 17

Edit: Oh god, okay, seriously. Who the hell thought this was a good idea. TWELVE TRIES and nothing.
 

Big-E

Member
I just finished the Mount Temzet part and went to see the big P. I was wondering how much longer do I have left in the game and what are some sidequests I can do. I assume I am still pretty early seeing as how I still don't have the second story achievement.
 

Tamanon

Banned
Big-E said:
I just finished the Mount Temzet part and went to see the big P. I was wondering how much longer do I have left in the game and what are some sidequests I can do. I assume I am still pretty early seeing as how I still don't have the second story achievement.

I'd say you have maybe 20-30 hours left.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Just beat the game.

Overall, I enjoyed it. The biggest flaw I thought was the battle system, in that it lacked complexity/challenge, and just required a bit of grinding. Seriously, you can just use Yuri and Azure Edge the entire game. But, I thought that the story/skits were entertaining, and that the voice acting did a superb job bringing the characters to life.
 

Hero

Member
teh_pwn said:
Just beat the game.

Overall, I enjoyed it. The biggest flaw I thought was the battle system, in that it lacked complexity/challenge, and just required a bit of grinding. Seriously, you can just use Yuri and Azure Edge the entire game. But, I thought that the story/skits were entertaining, and that the voice acting did a superb job bringing the characters to life.

So because you can exploit Yuri's one move makes the entire battle system flawed? You should try playing as another character then. It makes it completely different.
 

Darkman M

Member
teh_pwn said:
Just beat the game.

Overall, I enjoyed it. The biggest flaw I thought was the battle system, in that it lacked complexity/challenge, and just required a bit of grinding. Seriously, you can just use Yuri and Azure Edge the entire game. But, I thought that the story/skits were entertaining, and that the voice acting did a superb job bringing the characters to life.

Erm? Battle system is probably the strongest point of the game, You want more challenge play on hard and collect of the fell arms, then try your luck at unknown.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Hero said:
So because you can exploit Yuri's one move makes the entire battle system flawed? You should try playing as another character then. It makes it completely different.

Having the option to play as another character isn't a challenge. The necessity of controlling other characters for a strategy to be successful is.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Darkman M said:
Erm? Battle system is probably the strongest point of the game, You want more challenge play on hard and collect of the fell arms, then try your luck at unknown.

I did play on hard.

Unknown isn't available for the first play through.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Maybe some sidequest has a challenge, but I don't see how it would change the fundamentals of the battle system. Just voicing my opinion, I didn't realize I was going to be raped from all directions by over-defensive fans. I'm out of this thread.
 

Darkman M

Member
teh_pwn said:
Maybe some sidequest has a challenge, but I don't see how it would change the fundamentals of the battle system. Just voicing my opinion, I didn't realize I was going to be raped from all directions by over-defensive fans. I'm out of this thread.


Maybe because that certain sidequest changes the difficulty of a certain boss, no ones raping you what your saying just not making to much sense.

If you played on hard like you say i doubt you just spam azure edge the whole time, I didn't find the game particular difficult but that doesn't make the battle system broke like you say it is.
 

Hero

Member
If you played on hard mode then there's no way you can get away with spamming one move over and over again. You get raped pretty easily.
 

Firestorm

Member
teh_pwn said:
Just beat the game.

Overall, I enjoyed it. The biggest flaw I thought was the battle system, in that it lacked complexity/challenge, and just required a bit of grinding. Seriously, you can just use Yuri and Azure Edge the entire game. But, I thought that the story/skits were entertaining, and that the voice acting did a superb job bringing the characters to life.
I hear this a lot... but I don't get it. If you grind, any RPG just requires button mashing. Play the game like me, underlevelled! It's a bitch :(

Meh, stupid Secret Mission 13. Judith doesn't have that Moon Beam attack. Karol's got Reaper Throw but it seems a little slow. Ugh. I actually got lucky and just hit him with Judith using a normal attack, but I died. Gonna try yeb's advice and try and have him corner me at the edge. What a pain in the ass this guy is being :( Die Mystic Artes.
 

yeb

Member
teh_pwn said:
The biggest flaw I thought was the battle system, in that it lacked complexity/challenge, and just required a bit of grinding.
I've never understood the thought process of people who make this complaint about any RPG.

"Whoa, this boss is challenging. Should I explore the strategic options the game has?
...Nah. *walks in circles and grinds*
WTF, why do they make RPGs so easy?! I can win by just mashing attack!"


Edit: why didn't I read further? Get out of my head Firestorm :(
 

kiryogi

Banned
So anyone on the domestic side figured out and been using Arte extensions? It's definitely not something documented out there properly yet. In english anyway.
 

mugwhump

Member
edit: ^Never heard of them. You mean like altered artes?

Wow, the story REALLY took off after talking to
Phareoh. Probably the high point of the game so far. And I didn't expect Karol would be so awesome :O

I don't understand what makes you get a skill symbol after assigning certain skills. Do you just need to spend a certain number of SP on one type? or assign more skills of that type compared to other types? Or wat

I thought it'd be easier to get FS's on hard mode since enemies take more hits to die, but do their FS gauges deplete slower too?

Hmmm... it seems like some artes can deplete multiple colors of FS gauge. Like shining whatsit drop depletes half blue and half red, but the move description says red because the last part (that you'd get a FS with) of the move is red. Are all mixed artes like that?
And is it just me or are some artes more likely than others to give you FS chances?

Jonnyram said:
Grinding cooking is a little bit of a chore. All the ingredients are in the Spa area, and the only free rest points are in Yuri's room or Judith's home town.
Don't forget the curry in the castle cafeteria!
 

KingJ2002

Member
ok... i must have f'ed up along the way...

i collected all of the fell arms... went to see flynn... he taught me a new burst art... then this long talk between the spirits happened when i went to sleep... after i went to beat duke (i was at lvl 90 btw... grinded till i couldnt grind anymore) but didnt get the weapons unlocked or get to fight his final form... WTF went wrong?
 

kiryogi

Banned
mugwhump said:
edit: ^Never heard of them. You mean like altered artes?

No actually, some moves have extra extensions to them. Try doing Judy's Moon Glare with A+B. :D Some of them don't trigger/activate until you've used them a set amount of times though.
 

mugwhump

Member
kiryogi said:
No actually, some moves have extra extensions to them. Try doing Judy's Moon Glare with A+B. :D Some of them don't trigger/activate until you've used them a set amount of times though.
Goddamn, can't believe there's even MORE stuff in this battle system :eek:
 
I didn't see the source in that link before. I don't know why they would post it now if the original source is from March. How disappointing.
 

KingJ2002

Member
ok... for some reason... the fell arms are weak as fuck... no stats... they're just lame... and with that... the level 3 duke keeps kicking my ass (he kills estelle when there's no more life bottles... game over) whats the secret to these weapons?
 
KingJ2002 said:
ok... for some reason... the fell arms are weak as fuck... no stats... they're just lame... and with that... the level 3 duke keeps kicking my ass (he kills estelle when there's no more life bottles... game over) whats the secret to these weapons?
The more kills a particular character accumulates, the stronger the fell arms is. The stats will never reflect an increase though, so you'll just have to guestimate who's killed the most in your party and go from there. It makes more sense to equip these weapons after a playthrough or two.
 

Darkman M

Member
KingJ2002 said:
ok... for some reason... the fell arms are weak as fuck... no stats... they're just lame... and with that... the level 3 duke keeps kicking my ass (he kills estelle when there's no more life bottles... game over) whats the secret to these weapons?

Fell arms work like in symphonia each monster you kill with the weapon it adds to the attack, so the weapon has the potential to be 9999 atk depending on how many enemy's you kill lol. As for Duke i ended up using an all-divide for the battle to ease cut the damage he was doing I also spammed OVL spells with rita, i used meteor storm but im sure any high level spell would work. When possible save life bottles by having estelle cast resurrection if she is alive.
 

Blackjack

Member
Darkman M said:
Fell arms work like in symphonia each monster you kill with the weapon it adds to the attack, so the weapon has the potential to be 9999 atk depending on how many enemy's you kill lol. As for Duke i ended up using an all-divide for the battle to ease cut the damage he was doing I also spammed OVL spells with rita, i used meteor storm but im sure any high level spell would work. When possible save life bottles by having estelle cast resurrection if she is alive.
You don't have to kill the enemy with the Fell Arm, just the character.
 
donkey show said:
The more kills a particular character accumulates, the stronger the fell arms is. The stats will never reflect an increase though, so you'll just have to guestimate who's killed the most in your party and go from there. It makes more sense to equip these weapons after a playthrough or two.

The stats actually DO update to reflect how strong they are in this one. You also have to be on a "clear" file for them to work your first time through.

And the counter resets everytime you start a new game (like Abyss, unlike Symphonia), though you don't need to "unlock" them.
 
I didn't really follow this game at all and only briefly glanced at this thread before trying the demo. I bought the game after only focusing my mind on the game over a period of three or four days.

I'm three hours in and I'm pretty impressed so far. Vesperia seems better thematically than Symphonia. There doesn't seem to be the racism theme here that Symphonia was raped with. I do detect a bit of class struggle at the beginning.

Anyways, I'm pretty much a blank minded newb at this point.

I'm not even sure what questions I should be asking you all.

I do have one, however:

What are secret missions and what secrets could I have possibly missed? I just got to Halure.
 

Big-E

Member
Anyone know any good places to go get sidequests? I just got the second "vehicle" and I have been entering a bunch of those rock formations and other places but I cant do anything while i am there. They are always just blocked off or some door is shut.
 

Blackjack

Member
Dr. Kitty Muffins said:
I'm not even sure what questions I should be asking you all.

I do have one, however:

What are secret missions and what secrets could I have possibly missed? I just got to Halure.
Secret Missions: Each boss has a Secret Mission attached to it. So far you could only have missed a total of one, against Zagi in the castle.
Don't let Estelle take a lot of damage

Big-E said:
Anyone know any good places to go get sidequests? I just got the second "vehicle" and I have been entering a bunch of those rock formations and other places but I cant do anything while i am there. They are always just blocked off or some door is shut.
I've just been following Kouli's guide
 

Princess Skittles

Prince's's 'Skittle's
Big-E said:
Anyone know any good places to go get sidequests? I just got the second "vehicle" and I have been entering a bunch of those rock formations and other places but I cant do anything while i am there. They are always just blocked off or some door is shut.
For Tales games, you generally revisit every town after major events to trigger side-quests.
 
My Arms Your Hearse said:
The stats actually DO update to reflect how strong they are in this one. You also have to be on a "clear" file for them to work your first time through.

And the counter resets everytime you start a new game (like Abyss, unlike Symphonia), though you don't need to "unlock" them.
Ah makes sense. I haven't tried them since I "cleared" so I will be checking it out now.
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
The 'title achievement' is the most annoying shit.

I spent an hour grinding fatal strikes with stupid Estelle, have no idea how close I am(please be close!), but the thought of doing it with 5 other party members after her gives me chills.

Oh and mastering every recipe for every character is a big bowl of tedium.

Why are titles so worthless in this game anyway? COstume titles are one thing, but even Symphonia and Abyss(I think?) at least adjusted stats or bonuses confering them on the player...here worthless. One minor blemish on an otherwise awesome game.
 

Coverly

Member
Scanned the thread for a couple pages just to make sure this question wasn't asked recently:

In battles where they mess up your original order(lets say estelle as player 1 and yuri as player 2 by default), how do you reassign the controllers to their intended character?

By default I tend to play estelle(to better manage the healing in my party), but last night I got thrown into a fight where Yuri became the first character and I had to play as him. I don't mind him, but if given a choice I would move to my default character. My wife also got reassigned to a character she wasn't used and was asking to be switched back.

So in a battle, how do you reassign the controller to take control of a different char?
 

kiryogi

Banned
Brandon F said:
The 'title achievement' is the most annoying shit.

I spent an hour grinding fatal strikes with stupid Estelle, have no idea how close I am(please be close!), but the thought of doing it with 5 other party members after her gives me chills.

Oh and mastering every recipe for every character is a big bowl of tedium.

Why are titles so worthless in this game anyway? COstume titles are one thing, but even Symphonia and Abyss(I think?) at least adjusted stats or bonuses confering them on the player...here worthless. One minor blemish on an otherwise awesome game.

Honestly, I don't get achievement complainers. They're not supposed to be easy or at least shouldn't be. And supposedly, the titles do something minor, but not sure about the details myself. One of them gives you more chips @ the Casino.
 

Blackjack

Member
Coverly said:
Scanned the thread for a couple pages just to make sure this question wasn't asked recently:

In battles where they mess up your original order(lets say estelle as player 1 and yuri as player 2 by default), how do you reassign the controllers to their intended character?

By default I tend to play estelle(to better manage the healing in my party), but last night I got thrown into a fight where Yuri became the first character and I had to play as him. I don't mind him, but if given a choice I would move to my default character. My wife also got reassigned to a character she wasn't used and was asking to be switched back.

So in a battle, how do you reassign the controller to take control of a different char?
You need to synth an item called Moon Selector. I'm not sure when it becomes available, though, sorry. Also, even then players 2-4 could end up screwed over, since it doesn't let you CHOOSE who you control, it just scrolls through the characters until whoever you want is in the first slot (so if it's Yuri, Repede, Rita, Estelle and you use the Moon Selector once, it will be Repede, Rita, Estelle, Yuri and so on)
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
Coverly said:
Scanned the thread for a couple pages just to make sure this question wasn't asked recently:

In battles where they mess up your original order(lets say estelle as player 1 and yuri as player 2 by default), how do you reassign the controllers to their intended character?

By default I tend to play estelle(to better manage the healing in my party), but last night I got thrown into a fight where Yuri became the first character and I had to play as him. I don't mind him, but if given a choice I would move to my default character. My wife also got reassigned to a character she wasn't used and was asking to be switched back.

So in a battle, how do you reassign the controller to take control of a different char?

Might have been a surprise encounter?(Enemy touched you from behind on the field). That usually throws a curveball into the roster for the fight.

For switching characters, I'd check the artes screen in the Y menu, carefully scan the list of button commands lining the bottom of the screen and see what they all do. I think Start or back may let you adjust that stuff. I've never played co-op in this, but I have messed with those settings in solo to switch out player characters and whatnot. Make sure you have synthesized the item that lets you switch characters in battle as well just in case.
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
kiryogi said:
Honestly, I don't get achievement complainers. They're not supposed to be easy or at least shouldn't be. And supposedly, the titles do something minor, but not sure about the details myself. One of them gives you more chips @ the Casino.

I agree they should be challenging, but not tedious either!

Taking down all Giganto bosses and finishing EX dungeon = Good.
Mastering every recipe and other treadmill crap = bad.
 

Jonnyram

Member
Brandon F said:
Oh and mastering every recipe for every character is a big bowl of tedium.
I've just finished getting these titles. You don't have to master every recipe on every character, though -- you just need to master them all for one character. I'd say it took me about 3 hours total, from having unlocked all the recipes. Buy all ingredients at the spa, cook in Yuri's room, sleeping between each cooking attempt.
 
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