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The Tales of Vesperia |OT|
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Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
I like your style.Brandon F said:
So, question about the equivilant of the Abbysian Arms:
Is it total kills of the PARTY, or just for that particular Character?
For example, I've killed 1000 enemies only using Rita. Is it only HER weapon, or is it everybody's weapon?
(Also, does moving the battle data and stuff keep the information? I.E: Do the weapons just get more sickeningly powerful over the course of multiple playthroughs?)
Is it total kills of the PARTY, or just for that particular Character?
For example, I've killed 1000 enemies only using Rita. Is it only HER weapon, or is it everybody's weapon?
(Also, does moving the battle data and stuff keep the information? I.E: Do the weapons just get more sickeningly powerful over the course of multiple playthroughs?)
diztrukted
Member
my game arrived a couple of days ago, I got the first secret mission with Zagi....
Are all the secret missions tied to bosses?
and I bought the special edition, wheres the special "something" we're supposed to be getting... anybody have an idea as to what it is?
Are all the secret missions tied to bosses?
and I bought the special edition, wheres the special "something" we're supposed to be getting... anybody have an idea as to what it is?
My Arms Your Hearse
Banned
Althane said:
It only counts for the character that actually performs the kill.
Kill counts reset every playthrough (and damage caps at 9999 I believe). However, if you carry over items on a file that has them unlocked, you won't need to unlock them on subsequent playthroughs (they'll still be weak as hell for a long time though). I'm not sure if (or even if you can) you need to find them again to get the secret boss. I'm almost to the point of finding them on my Unknown file, and I imagine you do need to find them again to trigger the boss.
HylianScribe
Member
Anyone see the combo counter maxes out at 999999? "Combo duelers" are upset about this, apparently.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I can't combo worth a crap. Tips?
gregor7777
Banned
Teknoman said:
I've got 1 in around 10-12 hours of play.
Holy Avenger +1. Keep getting 15 of them with your chips then go to Yumange to sell them. I think you earn about 315,000 gald everytime. Another alternative to getting Gald is just having 4 Blue Sephiras equipped on four of your party members and constantly get into battles in the final dungeon.Papercuts said:
I wish I had autofire, I'll have to try that manually for a bit.
Also, is it possible to get the bonus dungeon on the first playthrough? I read how to get it and tried it but I think I'm either too far into the game for it to happen now, or it's impossible until New Game+ anyway.
Also, is it possible to get the bonus dungeon on the first playthrough? I read how to get it and tried it but I think I'm either too far into the game for it to happen now, or it's impossible until New Game+ anyway.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Beat the game.
Jesus god the grade shop is expensive.
Jesus god the grade shop is expensive.
If it works like in Abyss, you should be able to save a new game+ as a separate file, and go back to your old game and everything should be available to you. As long as there's a new game+ somewhere on your hard drive, the game recognized all files as a new game+. I don't know if it was intended in Abyss or a glitch.
gregor7777
Banned
ShockingAlberto said:
How expensive?
YES YES YES YES YES TAKE THAT MISSION 13 FUCK YOU YES.
Got lucky. He used a Mystic Arte RIGHT at the beginning of what was his third overlimit so nobody died too fast and everyone landed right beside him. Got up and was able to use Ghost Wolf with Yuri to get him down. God. He even used a fourth overlimit right at the end and scared the crap out of me. 1 life bottle left.
need a save point stat
Got lucky. He used a Mystic Arte RIGHT at the beginning of what was his third overlimit so nobody died too fast and everyone landed right beside him. Got up and was able to use Ghost Wolf with Yuri to get him down. God. He even used a fourth overlimit right at the end and scared the crap out of me. 1 life bottle left.
need a save point stat
Almost done with my first playthrough now. Waiting for the bunny ear achievement to unlock, then I'm gonna take on the final boss. 153 hours on the clock.
Seems I totally screwed up the Judith spear quest (you have to do the thing in Rita's house at the start of the game, or you can't get it), and I missed a few other things too. Will be fun to try and beat the game in 15 hours now, including the quests I missed. Should be doable, but it will be interesting nonetheless. I can't wait to see how the game plays with all equipment and skills at the start, esp. the all skills = 1SP upgrade! :lol
Seems I totally screwed up the Judith spear quest (you have to do the thing in Rita's house at the start of the game, or you can't get it), and I missed a few other things too. Will be fun to try and beat the game in 15 hours now, including the quests I missed. Should be doable, but it will be interesting nonetheless. I can't wait to see how the game plays with all equipment and skills at the start, esp. the all skills = 1SP upgrade! :lol
ShockingAlberto
Member
Papercuts said:
There's one area he can land on now on Desier, I think, that has enemies that drop Blastium Ore J, which goes in to a lot of rare items.
So while I still think Vesperia is a solid B rpg, it's become such a chore to play it these days that it really is like work and I can't wait to beat it this weekend so I can give IU a shot. I don't expect anyone to agree with me, since most people are really enjoying Vesperia and that's great for them, but here are my issues with the game.
Basically I loved the game through act.1, liked the characters, was always interested in the next story point because of them, really enjoyed the battles as more and more systems were introduced, really enjoyed playing with the skill system and making longer cooler combos for each element, really enjoyed synthesizing everything to get all the neat skills, enjoyed cooking to learn the new recipies. There was quite a bit to do at all times and for everything you did, you got new cooler stuff in return.
Then around 30 hours in or 50% through the game when my characters were in mid 30s level-wise and I'd gotten almost all the altered skills and almost all the recipes, and there were only a few new moves left to learn and they were spread hours apart...it started getting a little boring gameplay-wise. I had basically my "end-game" combos down for each color of enemy and on bosses combos are pointless since they overlimit so much or just ignore your damage so you might as well just spam low hit#, high damage short combos.
So every battle I was doing the same combos over and over and then doing fatal strikes. The enemies didn't get harder, they just started getting more HP so more repetition of the same combos over and over. Even on hard they just had even MORE HP but battles played out the same everytime to the point where you could do it in your sleep.
With no new moves to look forward to, so no real reason to mix around and use all your skills (I VASTLY prefer the Tales games where you get a new ougi by doing 2 tokugis like 500 times each instead of just at a set level, since it keeps you using all your attacks), and no new recipies to learn, battles just felt kinda pointless and I started avoiding a lot of them just to save the time. Skills became a non-interest because 90% of them seemed pointless and I'd never use them, especially since I didn't need them since the battles were so easy and dull. From that Synth became boring too because why bother to waste time running around collecting the items to make a weapon to learn skills you won't use? At some point I realized I wasn't going to have 100% everything (skills, equipment), so I think I stopped caring about stuff that isn't actually useful.
And then there was the plot which just kinda became a generic Tales with no real drive around 30 hours. Save the world, one slow dungeon with tiny plot development every hour at a time, instead of being glued to the seat like act 1, I stopped caring about what was going on since it's pretty obvious how it's all playing out and Vesperia's worldview is just very bland for an rpg world. The characters are solid, but the magic history and all that is bunk.
Also doesn't help that the dungeons are neither exciting in terms of puzzles (most are just run from A -> B with branches for treasures) nor are they breathtaking environments that continue to impress (I took a photo of like 3 areas total so far in Vesperia, compared to most rpgs I take a lot). In BD or LO or Persona or any good rpg I take a moment to go "wow" when I reach a cool looking place, but Vesperia's dungeons are all pretty bland. So there goes another incentive to look forward to when playing.
So at the end of the day my main problem with Vesperia is that while the game is 60 hours+, you pretty much complete/master the gameplay at 30-35 hours in, which leaves 20-30 hours of just doing the same old, same old every battle as you go from A->B in the dungeons and watch a little plot advancement and there's just not anything to look forward to that gives that 'pull' that makes you not want to leave your seat and to just keep playing for hours.
With 99% of the rpgs I play, I play in 5-10 hour sessions each day I sit down with the game. I was like that for the first 20-30 hours of Vesperia. But since then I can barely manage over an hour each time I play and am just hitting 50 hours like 2-3 weeks after hitting 30 hours.
Even if it's not "amazing" Vesperia is a very well made rpg in every aspect, but I feel like I finished it 20 hours ago and wonder why I'm still playing and the story is not over. :\
ps. I know a lot of people say Abyss felt like that too, but I guess I didn't notice it because I was playing Abyss for the next cutscene all the way until the end because the story was really interesting.
Basically I loved the game through act.1, liked the characters, was always interested in the next story point because of them, really enjoyed the battles as more and more systems were introduced, really enjoyed playing with the skill system and making longer cooler combos for each element, really enjoyed synthesizing everything to get all the neat skills, enjoyed cooking to learn the new recipies. There was quite a bit to do at all times and for everything you did, you got new cooler stuff in return.
Then around 30 hours in or 50% through the game when my characters were in mid 30s level-wise and I'd gotten almost all the altered skills and almost all the recipes, and there were only a few new moves left to learn and they were spread hours apart...it started getting a little boring gameplay-wise. I had basically my "end-game" combos down for each color of enemy and on bosses combos are pointless since they overlimit so much or just ignore your damage so you might as well just spam low hit#, high damage short combos.
So every battle I was doing the same combos over and over and then doing fatal strikes. The enemies didn't get harder, they just started getting more HP so more repetition of the same combos over and over. Even on hard they just had even MORE HP but battles played out the same everytime to the point where you could do it in your sleep.
With no new moves to look forward to, so no real reason to mix around and use all your skills (I VASTLY prefer the Tales games where you get a new ougi by doing 2 tokugis like 500 times each instead of just at a set level, since it keeps you using all your attacks), and no new recipies to learn, battles just felt kinda pointless and I started avoiding a lot of them just to save the time. Skills became a non-interest because 90% of them seemed pointless and I'd never use them, especially since I didn't need them since the battles were so easy and dull. From that Synth became boring too because why bother to waste time running around collecting the items to make a weapon to learn skills you won't use? At some point I realized I wasn't going to have 100% everything (skills, equipment), so I think I stopped caring about stuff that isn't actually useful.
And then there was the plot which just kinda became a generic Tales with no real drive around 30 hours. Save the world, one slow dungeon with tiny plot development every hour at a time, instead of being glued to the seat like act 1, I stopped caring about what was going on since it's pretty obvious how it's all playing out and Vesperia's worldview is just very bland for an rpg world. The characters are solid, but the magic history and all that is bunk.
Also doesn't help that the dungeons are neither exciting in terms of puzzles (most are just run from A -> B with branches for treasures) nor are they breathtaking environments that continue to impress (I took a photo of like 3 areas total so far in Vesperia, compared to most rpgs I take a lot). In BD or LO or Persona or any good rpg I take a moment to go "wow" when I reach a cool looking place, but Vesperia's dungeons are all pretty bland. So there goes another incentive to look forward to when playing.
So at the end of the day my main problem with Vesperia is that while the game is 60 hours+, you pretty much complete/master the gameplay at 30-35 hours in, which leaves 20-30 hours of just doing the same old, same old every battle as you go from A->B in the dungeons and watch a little plot advancement and there's just not anything to look forward to that gives that 'pull' that makes you not want to leave your seat and to just keep playing for hours.
With 99% of the rpgs I play, I play in 5-10 hour sessions each day I sit down with the game. I was like that for the first 20-30 hours of Vesperia. But since then I can barely manage over an hour each time I play and am just hitting 50 hours like 2-3 weeks after hitting 30 hours.
Even if it's not "amazing" Vesperia is a very well made rpg in every aspect, but I feel like I finished it 20 hours ago and wonder why I'm still playing and the story is not over. :\
ps. I know a lot of people say Abyss felt like that too, but I guess I didn't notice it because I was playing Abyss for the next cutscene all the way until the end because the story was really interesting.
I just beat the game. Loved the ending and just starting up my Ex New Game now. Had close to 17000 grade to spend 
The end boss really enjoyed spamming Big Bang, but
helped out a lot with
straight after. Man, if other Tales games are as good as this, it's a shame I missed out on them, but this one really did have a snappy beginning and the story was awesome overall. One of my favourite JRPGs now, and definitely the best so far this gen.
The end boss really enjoyed spamming Big Bang, but
Raven
his cure move