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The Toy Soldiers (Xbox Live Arcade) Official Thread
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Look forward to checking out the demo this evening. The Facebook game is actually pretty cool - its the first FB game I have ever tried and enjoyed it quite a bit.
Totally random, but on another note, I just realized these guys are based out of Bothell, WA (suburb of Seattle) which is the same city I live in.
Totally random, but on another note, I just realized these guys are based out of Bothell, WA (suburb of Seattle) which is the same city I live in.
Typically if I intend to sell a game, I won't hold onto it for a full year until it's only worth $20. Usually you can get $40 out of it relatively easy on Craigslist. The lack of re-sale on XBLA/PSN/VC games just kills my enthusiasm for them 9 times out of 10. In most instances, you're not going to re-visit the title months or years down the line so owning it and having no way to recoup ANY of the cost is a frustration. Like I said though, I rarely buy a full price game due to renting. If there were some sort of option to rent XBLA games at less than full price, I'd be more inclined to play said titles.Google said:
Developers know there is a huge difference in the perceived value/price of $10 vs $15 XBLA title. It's no different than something being $9.99 versus $10.00. Once you break that magic 1,000 plus barrier for points, you've entered a world of selling pain.
Meier said:
I'm similar to you in my outlook on buying and reselling. I realized though that if I wanted to get to enjoy the great downloadable games out there I would need to try and look at it a different way. I sort of have my own bar in that I judge downloadable games by, if a $10 game gives me three hours of enjoyment then I'm satisfied that it's money well spent. A $15 game five hours.
Personally I don't want to miss out on the gems available on PSN, XBLA, (Wiiware and Steam).
TheChewyWaffles
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Google said:
Hardly. And who the hell are you to come here and try to define "value" for us? The fuck?
I keep liking it the more I play. I've only played 1st story mission enough to get general rank (2 plays), and about 5 or 6 multiplayer battles aganist my brother.
"Upgrade as fast as you can!" isn't necessairly the best in this game, either. I like the fact that lvl 1 Auto-guns actually seem to have a reason to exist, even after you can take them to lvl 2. I can really hear the difference (in normal) between my own use of a gun, VS the CPU's useage.
Co-Op would have been great, surely. Don't think I'd like 2 VS 2 though, because part of the strategy is trying to manage both parts of resources VS a human, trying to match their rythm of Barrages and "tower" creation.
Nice how you can unlock additional visual filters, and for the record, I don't mind all the blur and bloom. Really helps make it all feel more dramatic. Blobs in the distance that clear themselves into serious threats as they draw close... makes it feel interesting.
It'd be awesome of the DLC was as imaginative as Borderlands, or Band of Bugs. If it's just a map and maybe a new tower, that's one thing, but you could really do a lot of cool things with thsi framework. "Toy Soldiers" doesn't have to mean "army men" y'know...
"Upgrade as fast as you can!" isn't necessairly the best in this game, either. I like the fact that lvl 1 Auto-guns actually seem to have a reason to exist, even after you can take them to lvl 2. I can really hear the difference (in normal) between my own use of a gun, VS the CPU's useage.
Co-Op would have been great, surely. Don't think I'd like 2 VS 2 though, because part of the strategy is trying to manage both parts of resources VS a human, trying to match their rythm of Barrages and "tower" creation.
Nice how you can unlock additional visual filters, and for the record, I don't mind all the blur and bloom. Really helps make it all feel more dramatic. Blobs in the distance that clear themselves into serious threats as they draw close... makes it feel interesting.
It'd be awesome of the DLC was as imaginative as Borderlands, or Band of Bugs. If it's just a map and maybe a new tower, that's one thing, but you could really do a lot of cool things with thsi framework. "Toy Soldiers" doesn't have to mean "army men" y'know...
Oli said:
It's definitely more tower defense than RTS. However you can take control of your "towers" and micromanage them, and you can also take control of certain units (tanks, planes) and use them like it's "Battlefield 1915".
If you're confused why not just play the free trial?
I like it so far but it is inexcusable not to have invert controls for the sniper tower. This is definitely not like a normal defense tower game. You really have to take control of certain towers. I find the sniper tower is best an early on and then switch to the guns as enemies draw near. I find taking control of mortars and the gas tower pretty useless.
well the impressions are certainly enough to make me download the demo.
if there is enough variation in the game that i dont feel like im playing a straight up TD game then i may actually like it.
the premise is too cool though. i certainly want it to be a game that i will enjoy. here's hoping.
if there is enough variation in the game that i dont feel like im playing a straight up TD game then i may actually like it.
the premise is too cool though. i certainly want it to be a game that i will enjoy. here's hoping.
additional to the sniper, the airplane controls seem kinda weird to me as well. I crashed it a few times before I realized that you steer with LS and gas with RS, not the other way around.
I just played the demo, but I'm just not feeling it. I thought it was cool right away, but after awhile I'm like, "ok, so I'm playing a glorified tower defense game." I'm sure there's cool features and such, but I just can't justify dropping 15 bucks on a nice TD game.
I just played the demo, but I'm just not feeling it. I thought it was cool right away, but after awhile I'm like, "ok, so I'm playing a glorified tower defense game." I'm sure there's cool features and such, but I just can't justify dropping 15 bucks on a nice TD game.
Joel Was Right
Gold Member
Instant buy at 800. No to 1200
Joel Was Right
Gold Member
I just bought it :lol
SuperPac
Member
Bought it. Love the aesthetics, gameplay's a ton of fun. Though I'm having trouble with that first tank. It always gets to my row of Howitzers (upgraded to Lev.2) before they get about half its life down and then they can't do anything to it when it's that close up. Not really sure what to do.
Joel Was Right
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SuperPac said:
Is that the level where you are given the Gas weapon?
I liked the demo a lot. The $15 price point is making me hesitate on buying it though. I'm not sure with FFXIII coming out if I will really get to play this alot and afraid it might just end up in my graveyard of xbla games downloaded on impulse but barely touched (South Park, Penny Arcade, Puzzle Quest, Mega Man 9, etc). That on top of the recent weekly deals on $15 games going on sale for $8 pretty quick is just making me hesitate. I mean, those are space bucks I could be spending on FFXIII themes and avatar items you know.
pseudomyxoma
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Meus Renaissance said:
Meus Renaissance said:
This made me laugh.
Going to buy this tonight for sure 1200 or not. Though I have to say if it was 800 I would have instant bought it but 1200 I have to try the trial and even sometimes sleep on it. I am a cheap ass for sure but I see others like me in this thread
Joel Was Right
Gold Member
Just buy it, life's too short. At the end of the day it's $15, not $5000. We can get some fun out of it 
LordPhoque
Banned
We need more impressions.
ACESandEIGHTS
Member
I was gonna wait for 800 Microsoft Space Dollars, but I went ahead and bit at 1200. After all, they're only space dollars, and those grow on uglifarbs.
That game is fun. Can't wait to see what MP is like, but I am thoroughly enjoying it. Flying the Red Baron plane reminds me of that William Gibson story Dogfight -- you know, the one about the holographic videogame spadsandfokkers.* Bitch to control that thing though, shows why I always sucked at IL-2 Sturmovik, but managing to fire into a crowd of soldiers and pick off a few and then bomb another crowd is very satisfying.
What's the most satisfying part of this game, you ask? I'm glad you asked. Shell cam. Seeing my expertly-aimed shell arc across the field and hit some kraut directly in the middle of his kaiser helmet, along with a hearty cry of "Weinerschnitzel!", all in a first-person view, gave me a good laugh.
How's MP anyway? And I found myself going to sleep last night wondering if there are leaderboards for multiplayer. And then I decided that I didn't care and slept soundly.
*Which is now real, btw, and free to download. You just have to buy an extremely expensive device to read your facial expressions and brainwaves to control the plane.
That game is fun. Can't wait to see what MP is like, but I am thoroughly enjoying it. Flying the Red Baron plane reminds me of that William Gibson story Dogfight -- you know, the one about the holographic videogame spadsandfokkers.* Bitch to control that thing though, shows why I always sucked at IL-2 Sturmovik, but managing to fire into a crowd of soldiers and pick off a few and then bomb another crowd is very satisfying.
What's the most satisfying part of this game, you ask? I'm glad you asked. Shell cam. Seeing my expertly-aimed shell arc across the field and hit some kraut directly in the middle of his kaiser helmet, along with a hearty cry of "Weinerschnitzel!", all in a first-person view, gave me a good laugh.
How's MP anyway? And I found myself going to sleep last night wondering if there are leaderboards for multiplayer. And then I decided that I didn't care and slept soundly.
*Which is now real, btw, and free to download. You just have to buy an extremely expensive device to read your facial expressions and brainwaves to control the plane.
The demo totally sold me on this game... after playing with the sniper tower and then hopping in the bi-plane, I had to buy it.
The game has tons of personality... I remember laying out a bunch of Devil's wire to snag the enemy soldiers while my machine gun mowed them down. I was patting myself on the back, then the cavalry came and just jumped over it all and jacked up my toy box.
I have tried other TDS games (like SouthPark) and wasn't impressed. This game just seems to have a great blend of RTS, TDS, FPS, and charm. Definitely worth my $15. In fact, I'm contemplating leaving work early just so I can play the game.
The game has tons of personality... I remember laying out a bunch of Devil's wire to snag the enemy soldiers while my machine gun mowed them down. I was patting myself on the back, then the cavalry came and just jumped over it all and jacked up my toy box.
I have tried other TDS games (like SouthPark) and wasn't impressed. This game just seems to have a great blend of RTS, TDS, FPS, and charm. Definitely worth my $15. In fact, I'm contemplating leaving work early just so I can play the game.
ACESandEIGHTS
Member
jedimike said:
1st off, that cavalry is a bunch of bastards. I guess it's a tower defense game so you've got to have some fast units, but they're also tough and very very fast. I think I've sniped one of them once. I guess the point to cavalry is:
You cannot stop cavalry, you can only hope to shell them before they reach your toy box.
And B) I had no idea I just dropped $15 on that. I was hoping more like 10. That's why a prefer the term MSD, or Microsoft Space Dollars. I only spent 1200 of those.
mujun said:
It took me a while too. I kept wanting to use the big ass 18 guns, but really you only need a couple of those and a bunch of the small mortars... just make sure you upgrade them before the big tank comes. I used two gas guns for the infantry and then placed a machine gun in the back by my toy box to get the occasional cavalry that snuck by.
Joel Was Right
Gold Member
xbhaskarx said:
SuperPac said:
mujun said:
This my attempt of recreating the battlemap. Highlighted in red fill are the places where you need to build and in red text is a description of what you need to build it.
Start by building gas weapons in those circles in a line right next to the trenches. Money is limited here, but after the gas weapons, you need to build an artillery (on the top row first). Then the one machine gun as listed, then the mortars. Then the last artillery on the bottom row, near the Toy Box itself.
It's important that you face this last one towards the path the Tank will come down. What I've realised is that these things do not fire always on their own, you need to manually face them towards the path the enemy will come down. So as the tank comes down from the right, you need to face the artillery towards it, and then change their direction to the left in anticipation for when the tank passes by.
My Toy Box was at 14 when I defeated the Tank, and it was really close. And manually control the machine gun when taking down the cavalry
GhaleonEB said:
The Rail Tank is level 12 (not counting the tutorial) so I'm guessing 15 levels total? Also this has multiplayer (split-screen and online), I don't think Defense Grid goes.
I can't comment on the time difference, Defense Grid took me much longer but I had a lot more difficulty with figuring out how to play it properly whereas this clicked with me quite easily.
Meus Renaissance said:
This my attempt of recreating the battlemap. Highlighted in red fill are the places where you need to build and in red text is a description of what you need to build it.
Start by building gas weapons in those circles in a line right next to the trenches. Money is limited here, but after the gas weapons, you need to build an artillery (on the top row first). Then the one machine gun as listed, then the mortars. Then the last artillery on the bottom row, near the Toy Box itself.
It's important that you face this last one towards the path the Tank will come down. What I've realised is that these things do not fire always on their own, you need to manually face them towards the path the enemy will come down. So as the tank comes down from the right, you need to face the artillery towards it, and then change their direction to the left in anticipation for when the tank passes by.
My Toy Box was at 14 when I defeated the Tank, and it was really close. And manually control the machine gun when taking down the cavalry
Thanks, I actually managed to breeze through it by building mortars on every single defence point except the last one near the toybox where I built a level one machine gun. I upgraded every mortar to level two but prioritized amount over level. Completed the level without taking any toybox damage.
Absolutely love this game. Recommend to people who don't really dig tower defence games too (like myself) as the action elements and amount of control you have over mortars and the like makes it a totally different experience imo.
BuggyDClown
Member
lovvvvvve this game. Just played hours of this and greed corp last night. Great buys. Lots of more arcade fun still to come
Psychotext
Member
What a brilliant little game. Purchased as soon as the trial finished.
ACESandEIGHTS
Member
As far as limited placement goes, I think they included tanks and airplanes in the game for this very reason. I've rained black death upon the enemy with Big Willie and the Whippets. Not as much with the Jenny bomber, but that doesn't mean I don't think it's freakin' hilarious to bomb the shit out of a corps making its way up a hill, then crash into some charming Euro-house, obliterating it. When you're in control of such free units, it's hard to see the limitations. But yeah, I guess they're there. Maybe they should've imposed a tower limit but with way more pads for building. Made it more like a sandbox wargame and less a tower defense rework.
Meanwhile, that Ubertank is a bitch. Thing has taken its toll on the UK GDP by crushing like a dozen emplacements, and I hammered it with a couple of lvl 3 mortars and some level 2 Howitzers, getting it down to a sliver of health, and then it rolled straight into my toybox like it lived there, having its way with my grandmother for good measure.
I'm gonna play the shit out of it tonight and rock some multiplayer along the way. BTW, I think leaderboards are hilarious, being simply your score and how many soldiers you've iced.
Meanwhile, that Ubertank is a bitch. Thing has taken its toll on the UK GDP by crushing like a dozen emplacements, and I hammered it with a couple of lvl 3 mortars and some level 2 Howitzers, getting it down to a sliver of health, and then it rolled straight into my toybox like it lived there, having its way with my grandmother for good measure.
I'm gonna play the shit out of it tonight and rock some multiplayer along the way. BTW, I think leaderboards are hilarious, being simply your score and how many soldiers you've iced.
1) I wish tanks moved just a bit faster
2) in bombing mode view I would like to see a cursor on the ground to see where my bombs will land
3)INVERT CONTROLS FOR SNIPER TOWER PLEASE
4) Sometimes enemies are hard to see on the battlefield.
My strategy usually consists of me placing gas weapon near the toy box while gun towers farther up. I place howitzers on the big squares and mortars sporadically around the area.
Question: When you unlock higher upgrades for weapons are they usable in levels you completed.
2) in bombing mode view I would like to see a cursor on the ground to see where my bombs will land
3)INVERT CONTROLS FOR SNIPER TOWER PLEASE
4) Sometimes enemies are hard to see on the battlefield.
My strategy usually consists of me placing gas weapon near the toy box while gun towers farther up. I place howitzers on the big squares and mortars sporadically around the area.
Question: When you unlock higher upgrades for weapons are they usable in levels you completed.