GamerMax73
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This is reassuring
Mmm, what's that old adage about having cakes and eating them?
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The UK votes to leave the European Union |OUT2| Mayday, Mayday, I've lost an ARM
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Mmm, what's that old adage about having cakes and eating them?
GamerMax73
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It's very sad, but I've held a subconscious association between St Georges cross and far-right (BNP?) nationalism for a number of years now. I'm actually embarrassed when I see my countries flag hanging from bedroom windows - my assumption at the message that's being sent is entirely negative.
Like, I hope it's about football, because whenever it isn't it's a symbol of hate.
It's basically our equivalent of these:
There's mutterings that Whittingdale might be out as Culture sec, with someone more pro-BBC in.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. I know the area a little as that's where my mothers side of the family comes from, lets just say there is a reason they all moved away.
I've unfortunately never met anyone who flies an English flag outside of the world cup who didn't conform to this stereotype.
Race circuits are probably a shit deal for the taxpayer everywhere and rarely lead to the desired effect of attracting enough tourists to the region to at least break even on the investment indirectly.
But it's telling even the (Welsh) government cites the uncertain future of the UK to stifle investment for now.
HazySaiyan
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I'm the same, the flag has been hijacked by nationalists to the point where I assume the worst if you're flying one and there's no football on.
The Friendly Monster
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As I've said before, there is no mandate end freedom of movement, just because the majority voted leave and the majority of those voters would want to end it. The problem is, how to make this sentiment official. Even though rest of Europe have been incredibly clear on the four freedoms some deluded people think they can be coerced in negotiation (with what leverage?).This is reassuring
edit: oh look the deluded are 52%, how fitting
Gurgelhals
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This is reassuring
lol, this is all playing out exactly like it did in Switzerland two years ago. And when I say exactly, I really mean exactly:
- Vote on referendum to restrict freedom of movement because OMG, MASS IMMIGRATION!!! and FUCK YEAH, TAKE BACK NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY!!!
- Ignore expert warnings that there inevitably will be no access to the single market without freedom of movement because, lol, EU's surely gonna negotiate...
- Vote results come in and the EU is all like: Nope, not negotiating. No freedom of movement means no single market access.
- As the realization slowly sets in, opinion polls start to move from "Stop all the immigrants!" towards "Well, erm, maybe retaining access to the single market might be more important after all than that whole immigration thing..."
- ????
- Profit
I guess Switzerland was the practice run for the EU negotiators. They're probably as ready as they'll ever be.
More Fun To Compute
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George's Cross is a flag for salty losers? Pretty much.
As a Scot that seems bewildering to me. To many up here we love our flag and it's more a symbol of patriotism and heritage over a hate symbol. I've only really seen the St George's flag used in that manner in This is Engalnd holding that same right wing principle.
Jezbollah
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HazySaiyan
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Jezbollah
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We'll find out this morning when the other cabinet posts are announced.
"Don't worry. Germans will have to accept since they have to sell cars to us"
PJV3
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He needs placing in a padded cell, sounds like he's getting the boot for being a psycho, nobody trusts the loon.
AHA-Lambda
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anonymous_abc
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52% of the country has their head in the clouds, I thought we already knew this?
More like 78%.
The Friendly Monster
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At least that 26% are going with an option that's actually attainable.
I'd never been totally on board with the "delusions of grandeur" and "empire mentality" accusations leveled at the UK... until these last few weeks.
anonymous_abc
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Fair enough.
...who are the other 8%?
I wonder if some of the 18% are staunch "Nah, we'll never invoke Article 50" folks.
I told you man, I told you about voters!
Palculator
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HazySaiyan
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I still think access to the Single Market with freedom of movement is a possibility. It's certainly more likely than access to the Single Market with restrictions on movement that's for sure.
AHA-Lambda
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I think it's about time we get all these much hated experts together and figure out something better than democracy
This is cute. And poisonous.
Funky Papa
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It is, but it will take a long time to negotiate and will probably only happen after a period of trading under WTO rules, which will bleed out the country.
I'm sure we just had some sort of vote along very similar lines. Wasn't the result something like 48-52 to restrict freedom of movement?This is reassuring
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Democracy is fine. Just, you need some experts in there too. That's why people use representative democracy instead of holding referendums on complicated questions and assuming everybody will carefully learn about all the benefits and drawbacks and cast the appropriate vote.
HazySaiyan
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BrokenIcarus
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I just gotta say, this "German Cars" running-gag is making me laugh every time!
I mean, if opinion stays like this it's a very strong case for just not Brexiting. It's clear that even after the vote people don't actually want the consequences of the vote, in general.
The Friendly Monster
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And after another decade of recession it can rejoin the EU, as a net beneficiary of EU funds! All according to keikaku.
Such deluded fools. In case it wasn't apparent to these brexit idiots: No, there will be no access to the single market without freedom of movement. Not now, not ever. No amount of negotiation is going to change that fact. If you want to leave the EU, go right ahead, but realize that there are consequences.
Hopefully!
Fucking idiots.
It's honestly got to the point where I want things to fuck up to get through to their thick skulls.
Snarfington
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Fuck's sake. The amount of delusion in this country is incredible. Really, truly incredible. I almost want to apologise to the rest of the world. This must be how it feels when people make fun of the USA.
Westminster practically doing all the Indy 2 campaign work for SNP. We don't even need any convincing.
The funny thing is by all accounts he was actually considered by the civil servants and people on both sides of the prison 'industry' to be doing a pretty good job in his current role. At least he was taking a serious look at reform in a way.
52% is incredibly fitting.
AHA-Lambda
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I'm putting it out there.
We are worse than the US.
Well, except for the guns, that's all that's separating us right now.
We are worse than the US.
Well, except for the guns, that's all that's separating us right now.
travisbickle
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We've just made Boris Johnson foreign secretary, you ain't seen nothing yet.
AHA-Lambda
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How fitting...
Gurgelhals
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Westminster is actually doing the whole of Europe a big service at the moment. I mean, the EU is suddenly seen as a sensible and worthwhile institution. That hasn't happened in like ... forever.
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