The EU will pay more to get them cakes and marmite, while showering the UK with free french wine and german cars.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union |OUT2| Mayday, Mayday, I've lost an ARM
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The EU will pay more to get them cakes and marmite, while showering the UK with free french wine and german cars.
IdreamofHIME
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"Germans want to sell us German cars"
Question Time spewing this shite now. Time for bed.
Question Time spewing this shite now. Time for bed.
Makes money for telling people what they want to hear? Sure, it's all he's ever done.
I wish people would question MPs respecting the vote, they are so full of it when they talk about democracy. The only reason they won't question the non binding vote or do what's best for the UK is because they fear losing their seat as most areas voted leave so they would be at risk of getting thrown out at the next opportunity in an election.
I agreed with one women, the government don't have a clue.
Orniletter
Banned
Italian wine producers .
I just can't.
I just can't.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Finally the silver lining to the middle-class drinking problem.
RedSparrows
Member
It's a bit rich how after we vote to leave the size and value of EU trade is trumpted as a sign we're better off... out.
Camp Freddie
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Fucking hell, the Italian vinters association is going to save us now.
Here we go Boris since you're too much of a bumbling thundercunt to google something:
https://www.wineaustralia.com/en/ma...of the Brexit on Australian wine exports.ashx
Wine duty charged by Britain ouside of trade agreements is about 15 Eurocents/L (it varies on strength and is less if it's bottled here), which is about 10p a bottle.
Imagine the riots that will be caused if middle class women have to pay 10p a bottle more for their prossecco...
Italy avoids about 50 million aussie dollars (£30million) per year in wine duty because of the single market.
That's essentially fuck all.
...and I see No.10 has already smacked Boris's bottom for going off message. EU negotiators must be quaking in their boots right now.
Here we go Boris since you're too much of a bumbling thundercunt to google something:
https://www.wineaustralia.com/en/ma...of the Brexit on Australian wine exports.ashx
Wine duty charged by Britain ouside of trade agreements is about 15 Eurocents/L (it varies on strength and is less if it's bottled here), which is about 10p a bottle.
Imagine the riots that will be caused if middle class women have to pay 10p a bottle more for their prossecco...
Italy avoids about 50 million aussie dollars (£30million) per year in wine duty because of the single market.
That's essentially fuck all.
...and I see No.10 has already smacked Boris's bottom for going off message. EU negotiators must be quaking in their boots right now.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Our negotiating position with the EU was already weak but the sheer incompetence from the ministers responsible is staggering.
He was wrong on the amount by a factor of 10. We import 28m litres of Prosecco not 300m. That's the sort of attention to detail which will come in handy during the negotiations which none of the merry 3 (Fox, Boris and especially Davies) have shown to date. They've had 3 months they should be on top their briefs by now, if not they'll never be.
Orniletter
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Like, the german car manufacturers thing makes a tiny bit of sense. VW, BMW, Daimler and whatever are gigantic employers here, contribute alot to our GDP and have quite a bit of political sway in return.
But Italian wine producers.
Next BoJo article will read that french umbrella exporters will do the trick and they wouldn't dare to cut off their biggest market.
The ...as Farage put it... "declaration of war" won't even be necessary on the EU's part if the key Brexiters keep being this incompetent.
But Italian wine producers.
Next BoJo article will read that french umbrella exporters will do the trick and they wouldn't dare to cut off their biggest market.
lol
Yikes.
The ...as Farage put it... "declaration of war" won't even be necessary on the EU's part if the key Brexiters keep being this incompetent.
Yep, I still don't think for one second May has the will to actually push the button, especially as she has no unity in the party on the outcomes. Remember when Cammo said he would trigger it the day after? lol
AHA-Lambda
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what? where the hell did this nonsense about italian wine come from? =/
JonnyDBrit
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Boris recently claimed it among the reasons why the EU would give the UK a favourable deal, literally alongside the whole 'german cars' tagline.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
We are going to be needing 300m litres of Prosecco when Brexit hits, so he is at least right about that
jufonuk
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07wsg23/brexit-a-very-british-coup
this is a really good Documentary.
this is a really good Documentary.
Any legal way for us non-brits to watch it?
Theonik
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See this is why the UK voted leave.
Just got my tourist visa for the UK this morning, because I have to get in on the low pound action, and it's the only one on my passport where they deemed it necessary to stress that I wasn't allowed "work or recourse to public funds"
QuicheFontaine
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Just got my tourist visa for the UK this morning, because I have to get in on the low pound action, and it's the only one on my passport where they deemed it necessary to stress that I wasn't allowed "work or recourse to public funds"
Don't feel bad, my wife has the bolded printed on her residence permit. AND she has to chip in to the NHS!
jufonuk
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Left without comment:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...00-000-jobs-at-risk-if-clearing-leaves-london
Also
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...00-000-jobs-at-risk-if-clearing-leaves-london
Also
Theonik
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Those foreigners using the beeb for free. (this is a joke)err I don't know..sorry
jufonuk
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lol
I would be offended but I am drinking tea. (actually, might get a Decaf
)Roller coaster. hmm not a bad idea make one and called it the Brexit exchange rate
They can't be being heard and there is no way they'll sit on their hands, moves have been made already, they can't wait until it happens then move.
AHA-Lambda
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PdotMichael
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Yep, we've not even left yet. And this is what's happening.
And this will happen one day after article 50.
JonnyDBrit
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And this will happen one day after article 50.
Oh please as if anyone involved with Brexit would admit to being on the same level as the French.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
There's something very appropriate about it being the risk management jobs that are going first
Where we're going we don't need risk management. We'll need success management for our cheddar exports to Australia
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Now, now, (unlikely) allies and that. A lot of anti-globalists aren't necessarily anti-nearest neighbour and ally, and France has been solid as both for about 100 years. In fact, if anyone can talk Brexiters out of it, well, it won't be freaking Germany...that's just the reality of the situation.
Though, really, GAF, you need to accept that most people in the UK want to leave, and that's a right. It would be political suicide if the Conservatives didn't accept those wishes. It will hurt economically, but life will go on. It was a really bad idea as far as Northern Ireland and Scotland are concerned politically, however, not just the overall UK economically.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I find this whole "wine and cars" talk to be sublimely allegorical.
So the hatred of France is an unfair stereotype, but that of Germany isn't? Not sure that really helps your point
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Not saying it's fair, but France likely gets a bit more trust than Germany in this regard. It's all unfair stereotypes* at the end of the day.
*Nonsense, in other words.
RedSparrows
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I think many of us do accept the result of the vote, but it's fairly obvious the 'majority' is only apt for the overall aim of 'leave', not anything substantive, detailed or actually... real.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
It is very strange that the only prominent voice talking sense is George Osborne.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Except he's not entirely. A completely "soft brexit" would be essentially nominal and not give anything the leave campaigners were campaigning on. It can't just be Brexit in name only (essentially become a non-voting member.)
Leave campaigners where campaigning on market access without freedom of movement. That's not a thing and it isn't going to be.
AHA-Lambda
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Yes, screw those guys who are soon to be unemployed at the whims of chest thumping nationalists!
The leave side not getting what they want is probably the best outcome so who cares
Royal_Phalanx
Member
Leave campaigned on the 'having your cake and eating it' philosophy, so they need a dose of reality.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
It might be to some extent if the UK continues to pay into EU coffers. Without a preferential market deal of some sort for the UK, the EU isn't getting that as the UK economy would be crippled and there'd be no incentive for the UK to pay. The EU will have to compromise, or the UK will simply take its crippled economy and not pay. Norway and Switzerland are not real solutions as they're in the Schengen Area, and in a bizarre way, more within the EU than the UK is.
May isn't going to accept no immigration control and paying for the EU in exchange for nominally leaving. This is going to get messy, but nobody is going to win. The EU will play hardball to discourage anyone else (Hungary) from leaving, and the UK is not going to back down on the main reason it voted out.
As much as Leave voters were unrealistic, the EU obviously wants their cake and to eat it too as well, but if they're too harsh the UK has no incentive whatsoever to pay.
The UK is not paying for having none of its demands met, and a crippled economy as a result. That is obvious. The economy is already going to get bad enough...
I care. Most UK voters and much of the ruling party want out of the EU, too bad if that fact upsets you.
PdotMichael
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The EU is the last who will have to compromise. It's also not just the EU but also the EFTA.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Again, the UK won't continue to pay into the EU budget without preferential market access of some kind. It just won't happen, there's no incentive to. Politics is all about finding compromises. If the EU won't then the UK economy will suffer even more, but the UK will not pay into the EU's coffers after they leave completely in return for absolutely nothing. That they would is the Remain equivalent of "Mexico will pay for that wall."
Also, the UK is not in EFTA anymore, and that block is not priority.
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