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[Captain Smoker]

They are a blot. Necessary, but they do impact on our environment.

Wind farms probably have the smallest impact on the environment compared to all other energy sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_wind_power

 

[anonymous_abc]

I wonder what the exact rate of people who live in the immediate vicinity of voting stations that also vote are. I live literally opposite one and still I get the vague sense not everyone in the same general range votes.

Everyone could have a voting booth in their living room and many people wouldn't bother or forget to vote... smh

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I thought this remit - encouraging growth as a tool of managing inflation - was directly conferred to them semi-recently, as opposed to just informally as it was previously?

Not unless I missed something. People talk about NGDP targeting all the time but I don't think any central bank has actually done anything about it.

 

[oti]

I'm actually quite supportive of heavily regulated fracking. It doesn't seem to visually impact the environment and the scare stories have been subject to much scrutiny and found to be generally false.
Wind turbines on the other hand are a fucking blot on our landscape and need tearing down and moving out to sea.

Priorities.

 

[KingSnake]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...oint-trade-taskforce-report-eea-eu?CMP=twt_gu

Norway has turned down a request from Britain to set up a formal joint taskforce aimed at preparing a post-Brexit free trade deal between the two countries, Norwegian media have reported.

The business daily Dagens Næringsliv said the international trade minister, Liam Fox, asked Norway’s trade and industry minster, Monica Mæland, to form a bilateral trade working group at a meeting between the two ministers and their officials on 14 September.

The request was passed to the Norwegian foreign affairs ministry, which is coordinating Norway’s Brexit response, where it was rejected as likely to jeopardise Norway’s European Economic Area (EEA) agreement and “inappropriate” while Britain was still a full member of the EU, the paper said.

Now I wait for the Norwegian salmon to thrown in Thames and for future British Salmon Party.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

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BREAKING Government rules out recommissioning #Royalyacht Britannia currently berthed in Edinburgh

Oh noooooooooooooooooooo disaster

Next we'll not be getting blue passports or imperial measurements. Surely this is the stuff that the Brexiters are pinning their hopes and dreams on. Along with the racism and xenophobia obvs.

 

[oti]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...oint-trade-taskforce-report-eea-eu?CMP=twt_gu



Now I wait for the Norwegian salmon to thrown in Thames and for future British Salmon Party.

lol

I love how some people here argued that OF COURSE there would be trade negotiations before the UK officially left the EU.

 

[PJV3]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...oint-trade-taskforce-report-eea-eu?CMP=twt_gu



Now I wait for the Norwegian salmon to thrown in Thames and for future British Salmon Party.

The fuck up continues.
They don't know what they are doing, if it was Labour doing this shit the country would be in full on panic mode.

 

[theaface]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...oint-trade-taskforce-report-eea-eu?CMP=twt_gu

Tim Farron, the Lib Dem leader, said: “This is the latest rebuff, this time from Norway, to the government that doesn’t have a plan or, frankly, have a clue.

“The Tory government is scrabbling around for even a scrap of good news while we charge headlong towards a hard Brexit. The Liberal Democrats are the real opposition to this Tory Brexit government.”

No lies detected.

 

[Vagabundo]

A senior Irish MEP has suggested Northern Ireland should be given “associate membership” of the European Union after Brexit, with the Irish State paying its annual funding contribution.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/poli...could-become-associate-member-of-eu-1.2825042

Floating kites. Might be interesting. Of course the DUP will have a fit. I wonder could we smuggle Scotland in too.

Long live Dalriada!!

 

[Timbuktu]

No lies detected.

Indeed, but they also don't have the strength to be effective opposition, they are hardly even visible at the moment.

 

[Irminsul]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...oint-trade-taskforce-report-eea-eu?CMP=twt_gu
Now I wait for the Norwegian salmon to thrown in Thames and for future British Salmon Party.

Great comments under that piece:

Currently the UK looks like this drunken guy which running around, trying to persuade everybody to join his soon to be successful startup.

A drunken guy with beer goggles, thinking everyone is in love with him, and waking up in bed next day with Liechtenstein.

"Lord Nelson, Lord Beaverbrook, Sir Winston Churchill, Sir Anthony Eden, Clement Attlee, Henry Cooper, Lady Diana, vi har slått dem alle sammen, vi har slått dem alle sammen! (we have beaten them all, we have beaten them all!). Liam Fox, can you hear me? Liam Fox ... your boys took a hell of a beating! Your boys took a hell of a beating!"

(Reference for that last one)

 

[norinrad]

Just another day in paradise. Next they are going to appoint Paul Gascoigne as a chief negotiator. lol

 

[theaface]

Indeed, but they also don't have the strength to be effective opposition, they are hardly even visible at the moment.

It's a damn shame. They appear far more credible than Labour at this point. It's regrettable that the media don't give them the coverage they deserve.

In hindsight, I think the public (myself included) gave the Lib Dems a disproportionately hard time in the wake of the coalition. The recent past has shown how effective they were in forcing the government to take a more moderate stance.

 

[Timbuktu]

It's a damn shame. They appear far more credible than Labour at this point. It's regrettable that the media don't give them the coverage they deserve.

In hindsight, I think the public (myself included) gave the Lib Dems a disproportionately hard time in the wake of the coalition. The recent past has shown how effective they were in forcing the government to take a more moderate stance.

I voted Lib Dem in 2010 and subsequently felt disappointed with Clegg, but you are right in that Clegg deserve more credit in moderating the worst Tory tendencies for those years. At the end, it is probably still politically naive to do so as they have sacrificed the party and now the unelected Conservatives cabinet have a free reign to do whatever, while no one knows who Tim Farron is.

 

[Xando]

Saw this on twitter and couldn't help but laugh at this

 

[Tuffty]

This was painful to listen to. What a muppet the caller is. http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/which-eu-law-are-you-looking-forward-to-losing/

 

[anonymous_abc]

This was painful to listen to. What a muppet the caller is. http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/which-eu-law-are-you-looking-forward-to-losing/

Indeed.

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

What's it like working in Ireland? I might go that route to retain my EU citizenship (because Common Travel Area). On the other Brexit deep end thread I asked about working in sweden but it seems to be unachievable in a mere 2 years.

 

[Audioboxer]

This was painful to listen to. What a muppet the caller is. http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/which-eu-law-are-you-looking-forward-to-losing/

"So I'm just wondering what those laws are that you won't have to obey any more that made you vote for this short-term economic hit.

"Can you name one?"

Ashley's response: "I wouldn't be able to, no."

Brexit ladies and gentleman.

 

[Kathian]

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/poli...could-become-associate-member-of-eu-1.2825042

Floating kites. Might be interesting. Of course the DUP will have a fit. I wonder could we smuggle Scotland in too.

Long live Dalriada!!

Sensible idea for NI. Discussion on borders is just leverage - far more sensible to have checks coming into the UK from NI. Still run by UK border force in NI and with a treaty specifically between the UK and EU regarding this.

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

I thought the EU said no negotiation with individual parts of countries? Otherwise Scotland should get associated status too. I would move there if that was the case. A win win solution because Remainers can go there and Leavers can stay down in England and Wales and have their hard without lube brexit.

 

[Izuna]

So it looks like my Mom FINALLY started to understand that Brexit was a mistake, only because the Euro is reaching parity with the Pound in airports.

"I don't understand why Norway is fine outside the EU though."

It's too late to explain this again.

edit: GUYS WTF, $1.21?!

 

[CyclopsRock]

Not unless I missed something. People talk about NGDP targeting all the time but I don't think any central bank has actually done anything about it.

This is what I was thinking of. See paragraph 2 on page 4:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...qJNVUuol9L2cU0mTA&sig2=HMdmDFk69kD3GT1Kx_C2lQ

That url's fucked but it should work. Apparently it was part of the 2013 budget.

 

[Huw_Dawson]

I voted Lib Dem in 2010 and subsequently felt disappointed with Clegg, but you are right in that Clegg deserve more credit in moderating the worst Tory tendencies for those years. At the end, it is probably still politically naive to do so as they have sacrificed the party and now the unelected Conservatives cabinet have a free reign to do whatever, while no one knows who Tim Farron is.

Yeah, it's the unfortunate issue we've got with only 8 MPs. Farron will be around for a while though, so there's plenty of time for folks to get to know him.

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

Bankers say staff and some operations may start to be moved to the EU next year. Pretty much what I expected, the sector will take some sort of hit from this.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-city-idUSKCN12B10R?il=0

 

[Bleepey]

So it looks like my Mom FINALLY started to understand that Brexit was a mistake, only because the Euro is reaching parity with the Pound in airports.

"I don't understand why Norway is fine outside the EU though."

It's too late to explain this again.

edit: GUYS WTF, $1.21?!

Took back control! With the banking sector upping sticks why are the Tories stil YOLOing this shit. You'd think if Blair was in power, he could whisper in the ear of Big Business and encourage them to donate their money to the party not trying to cripple and chase away the financial sector.

Edit: what happened to ZOMGWTFBBQ or whatever his name was. It would have been nice to have his input being a banker and all.

 

[Faddy]

So it looks like my Mom FINALLY started to understand that Brexit was a mistake, only because the Euro is reaching parity with the Pound in airports.

"I don't understand why Norway is fine outside the EU though."

It's too late to explain this again.

edit: GUYS WTF, $1.21?!

Part of that is the dollar rising on Trump getting annihilated.

 

[Izuna]

Part of that is the dollar rising on Trump getting annihilated.

I was about to say if only Boris was annihilated, but he was, and ended up being foreign secretary.

barf, gunna buy a burger before that's too expensive

 

[Lirlond]

I just want to chime in and say, am I the only person who thinks wind farms look awesome? When you look down from a hill and see them in the distance its pretty striking.

 

[DiGiKerot]

I just want to chime in and say, am I the only person who thinks wind farms look awesome? When you look down from a hill and see them in the distance its pretty striking.

I love the look of wind farms. There's some on the outskirts of the next town over I drive near on my commute to work, and they look damn cool.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

This is what I was thinking of. See paragraph 2 on page 4:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...qJNVUuol9L2cU0mTA&sig2=HMdmDFk69kD3GT1Kx_C2lQ

That url's fucked but it should work. Apparently it was part of the 2013 budget.

I think you've misread. When it says:

The remit for the MPC at Budget 2013 is part of the Government’s economic strategy, which
consists of four key pillars:

it doesn't mean that the remit for the MPC is changed to consist of those four pillars, it means that the remit for the MPC is designed to support those pillars (via low, stable inflation).

The actual changes to the MPC's remit are the following phrases in red, which are very minor changes - the govt wanted the MPC to be more forward looking when setting inflation (this is wonkspeak for "plz keep interest rates low, our reelection depends on it"), and making the MPC's governor write a letter to the Chancellor more regularly (wonkspeak for "we're keeping an eye on you bastards over there").

 

[AHA-Lambda]

so what's the odds of Scotland getting this associate membership then like Northern Ireland seems to be going for?

 

[JonnyDBrit]

so what's the odds of Scotland getting this associate membership then like Northern Ireland seems to be going for?

Well, I believe the basis of this idea is that its the Republic of Ireland that would pay NI's membership fees on its behalf, due to the cultural ties and trade that happens between the two. That this relationship is valuable enough to the Irish state for them to do their neighbours a solid.

I'm really not sure who exactly Scotland would have in that same sort of camp.

 

[Acorn]

so what's the odds of Scotland getting this associate membership then like Northern Ireland seems to be going for?

I wouldn't put too much stock into this. Ignoring the other roadblocks.

Can you see the dup and british govt okaying this? DUP campaigned for leave.

 

[kharma45]

so what's the odds of Scotland getting this associate membership then like Northern Ireland seems to be going for?

Northern Ireland aren't going for it. It was just suggested by an Irish MEP, nor is it likely to happen.

 

[Sordid]

I just want to chime in and say, am I the only person who thinks wind farms look awesome? When you look down from a hill and see them in the distance its pretty striking.

I live in a wee town in Scotland and we have quite a few turbines dotted about. A few of old locals moan about the 'countryside being ruined!' but I think they look great.

 

[Jezbollah]

Bankers say staff and some operations may start to be moved to the EU next year. Pretty much what I expected, the sector will take some sort of hit from this.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-city-idUSKCN12B10R?il=0

Already happening.

 

[Pankratous]

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/which-eu-law-are-you-looking-forward-to-losing/

Probably posted but haven't been in here for a while. Funny, yet saddening video.

 

[Lucreto]

Northern Ireland aren't going for it. It was just suggested by an Irish MEP, nor is it likely to happen.

Ireland should rather partner up with Scotland than Northern Ireland. The way things currently stand they can stay with the UK and claim Irish passport and keep their EU benefits. They can have their cake and eat it too.

Scotland doesn't have such luxury.

 

[kharma45]

I would rather partner up with Scotland than Northern Ireland. The way things currently stand they can stay with the UK and claim Irish passport and keep their EU benefits. They can have their cake and eat it too.

Scotland doesn't have such luxury.

Who is I here? The republic?

Northern Ireland won't keep their EU benefits if you mean funding. Once the UK leaves it goes too.

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

People in NI can keep their EU citizenship by claiming an Irish passport. I'd say Scotland needs to try their hardest to keep the EU perks. The people of Scotland need them more lest we be stuck together on an island prison.

 

[kharma45]

True we'd still be able to claim dual citizenship and have free movement with an Irish passport. I was thinking more of financial benefits as a state rather than on a personal level.

 

[CyclopsRock]

I think you've misread. When it says:



it doesn't mean that the remit for the MPC is changed to consist of those four pillars, it means that the remit for the MPC is designed to support those pillars (via low, stable inflation).

The actual changes to the MPC's remit are the following phrases in red, which are very minor changes - the govt wanted the MPC to be more forward looking when setting inflation (this is wonkspeak for "plz keep interest rates low, our reelection depends on it"), and making the MPC's governor write a letter to the Chancellor more regularly (wonkspeak for "we're keeping an eye on you bastards over there").

I see! Well, whatever, they love growth and that. That's my takeaway.

 

[Faddy]

Well, I believe the basis of this idea is that its the Republic of Ireland that would pay NI's membership fees on its behalf, due to the cultural ties and trade that happens between the two. That this relationship is valuable enough to the Irish state for them to do their neighbours a solid.

I'm really not sure who exactly Scotland would have in that same sort of camp.

Republic of Ireland get more back than they put in to the EU. So would Northern Ireland if you broke down the UK balance sheet.

Membership fees are hardly a burden.

 

[Xun]

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/which-eu-law-are-you-looking-forward-to-losing/

Probably posted but haven't been in here for a while. Funny, yet saddening video.

You described it perfectly.

Brexit voters in a nutshell, unfortunately.

 

[sam777]

£1:$1.21 is fucking ridiculous. This should never have happened and I can bet a lot of brexiters will be regretting their vote now, pillocks.

 

[Burai]

£1:$1.21 is fucking ridiculous. This should never have happened and I can bet a lot of brexiters will be regretting their vote now, pillocks.

Of course they aren't. We're still on "it's better for exports and the FTSE is up".

 

[JonnyDBrit]

Of course they aren't. We're still on "it's better for exports and the FTSE is up".

And don't forget 'it'll bounce back'.

 

[kharma45]

Republic of Ireland get more back than they put in to the EU. So would Northern Ireland if you broke down the UK balance sheet.

Membership fees are hardly a burden.

Between 2007 and 2020 our EU grants total €7bn. We're a slight beneficiary, not by as much as I thought.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/business/where-do-eu-grants-to-northern-ireland-go-1-7233873

he UK made a gross contribution of £12.9bn in 2015. Northern Ireland has about 3% of the UK's population so its contribution can be estimated at £374m.

In terms of what comes back, subsidies for farming and fishing, alongside structural funds were £320m in 2015.

Special peace and cross-border funds added about £50m - though we'll stop getting much of that money after 2020.

There are also science, education and research funds - they're at least £10m a year.

So Northern Ireland is probably still a beneficiary of the EU, or at the very least breaks even.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-36445164