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[QuicheFontaine]

I always thought Latin would be a great "please nobody" solution to the common language question.

 

[Kabouter]

I always thought Latin would be a great "please nobody" solution to the common language question.

Oh god, I hated Latin in high school. Pass on that for sure.

 

[Madchad]

Damn Canada just walked out of that trade deal after 7 years because of 1 region in Belgium. Some people are going to be very salty.

 

[QuicheFontaine]

Oh god, I hated Latin in high school. Pass on that for sure.

Caecilius in via laborat.

Give me that diplomat gig!

 

[mnz]

As a German, I understood almost nothing.

It's basically Fränkisch with a bit more french, I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io0Me5wlqjc

Sounds like someone from Mannheim sometimes.

 

[anonymous_abc]

Damn Canada just walked out of that trade deal after 7 years because of 1 region in Belgium. Some people are going to be very salty.

link?

 

[mnz]

link?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-canada-trade-freeland-idUSKCN12L1TO
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/21/chrystia-freeland-ceta-beligium-wallonia_n_12587152.html

 

[Joni]

Damn Canada just walked out of that trade deal after 7 years because of 1 region in Belgium. Some people are going to be very salty.

Time to split another country! Just kick Wallonia out of the EU. They have no ethical problems selling weapons to the Saudi.

 

[anonymous_abc]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-canada-trade-freeland-idUSKCN12L1TO
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/21/chrystia-freeland-ceta-beligium-wallonia_n_12587152.html

the despondent-sounding statement that followed suggested the deal is all but dead.

Sounds good to me.

ISDS should not be part of any trade deal going forward please.

 

[oti]

Sounds good to me.

What about my cheaper maple syrup tho. ;_;

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

Gives more fuel for the brexiters to say that it will be easier to sign these deals if you left though.

 

[Fiend]

Damn Canada just walked out of that trade deal after 7 years because of 1 region in Belgium. Some people are going to be very salty.

Praise the Wallonians.

 

[Bleepey]

Gives more fuel for the brexiters to say that it will be easier to sign these deals if you left though.

Sarcasm?

 

[Alx]

I always thought Latin would be a great "please nobody" solution to the common language question.

Esperanto would be the more logical choice for that purpose. I think there's still a handful of people speaking it.

 

[jelly]

Gives more fuel for the brexiters to say that it will be easier to sign these deals if you left though.

Yeah, a one sided get your lube ready deal that UK bend over and accept. EU has a much bigger stick to wave around to get deals that are in their favour. UK is in for a surprise when they leave. UK was licking China's ballsack when they came over. At least the EU wanted to stand up for European steel but UK is like, no my master China says no.

 

[nekkid]

What about my cheaper maple syrup tho. ;_;

Pretty cheap in Costco.

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

Sarcasm?

Already seeing brexiters on reddit celebrating and saying "this is why we left the EU the UK is going to prosper and be so rich with all the new deals we can sign"

 

[nekkid]

Already seeing brexiters on reddit celebrating and saying "this is why we left the EU the UK is going to prosper and be so rich with all the new deals we can sign"

How can you bring yourself to read that??

 

[NekoFever]

Yeah, a one sided get your lube ready deal that UK bend over and accept. EU has a much bigger stick to wave around to get deals that are in their favour. UK is in for a surprise when they leave. UK was licking China's ballsack when they came over. At least the EU wanted to stand up for European steel but UK is like, no my master China says no.

It'll be fun to see how badly we get rogered when we're negotiating with bigger economies and bigger markets than ours, such as the US, China and... uh... the EU.

 

[norinrad]

I see we are back to business. I will like to nominate Luxembourgish to be the official EU language.

 

[El Topo]

It's time. Deutsch will be our language gut ja ja gut gut Sportanzugshersteller.

I'm shocked you didn't propose Greek, the language of the original democracy.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I'm shocked you didn't propose Greek, the language of the original democracy.

Only koine Greek, though. Just to make things fair for everyone.

 

[Succinct Verbosity]

I find it incredibly unlikely that the Scandinavian countries would accept moving away from English - Hell, I don't even think the Germans would want to move away from it. The French seem to enjoy pushing their language, but the fact is English is the established language of trade and that's not going to change any time soon.

 

[Joni]

I find it incredibly unlikely that the Scandinavian countries would accept moving away from English - Hell, I don't even think the Germans would want to move away from it. The French seem to enjoy pushing their language, but the fact is English is the established language of trade and that's not going to change any time soon.

There are a lot of translators in the Parliament. Nobody really needs to talk in another language.
English, French and German are considered the working languages for work documents. So something like the Brexit would be drafted in those three languages.

 

[Bleepey]

Already seeing brexiters on reddit celebrating and saying "this is why we left the EU the UK is going to prosper and be so rich with all the new deals we can sign"

Explain to me like I am 5 how and why they think this?

 

[King Gilga]

Damn Canada just walked out of that trade deal after 7 years because of 1 region in Belgium. Some people are going to be very salty.

Can Canada afford it? Last I heard their economy was in the shitter.

 

[Chinner]

Explain to me like I am 5 how and why they think this?

Leasing Brown people/immigrants taking our jobs, clogging our NHS, filling the roads, stealing our money.

Our country will prosper once we can start referring to winter holiday as Christmas again.

 

[Dougald]

Explain to me like I am 5 how and why they think this?

I imagine the rationale would be that the EU is made up of 28 individual states each with their own concerns regarding a trade deal, and that just one can throw a spanner in the works of any potential trade deal

Now, using that as a reason why we'll have "better" deals on our own is... probably not quite accurate.

 

[oti]

I'm shocked you didn't propose Greek, the language of the original democracy.

I love Europeans, I don't hate them.

 

[anonymous_abc]

I find it incredibly unlikely that the Scandinavian countries would accept moving away from English - Hell, I don't even think the Germans would want to move away from it. The French seem to enjoy pushing their language, but the fact is English is the established language of trade and that's not going to change any time soon.

There are a lot of translators in the Parliament. Nobody really needs to talk in another language.
English, French and German are considered the working languages for work documents. So something like the Brexit would be drafted in those three languages.

I cannot envision a future where English is not the go to language for all the Eurocrats. Documents might still have to be drafted and translated officially but on a day to day basis I think everyone has resigned to using English. Which is fair enough and wont suddenly change after Brexit.

Speaking of which what is going to happen to all those British civil servants in EU institutions? Doesn't look like they will be welcome in the UK civil service. I worry that they will all run to private lobbying firms in Europe...

 

[Camp Freddie]

I imagine the rationale would be that the EU is made up of 28 individual states each with their own concerns regarding a trade deal, and that just one can throw a spanner in the works of any potential trade deal

Now, using that as a reason why we'll have "better" deals on our own is... probably not quite accurate.

Given that the problem is that ISDS is perceived to reduce Wallonian sovereignty (since they can be sued whenever they make laws that adversely affect Canadian corporations), it would be ironic if the UK's awesome deals basically involve handing over control to foreign corporations in secret courts.

I expect our awesome deal with the USA will involve all disputes being settled in some East Texan court. In a May vs Clinton battle, I know who I'd put money on. Especially if our clown parade of foreign, business and trade secretaries get involved.

 

[Timbuktu]

It'll be fun to see how badly we get rogered when we're negotiating with bigger economies and bigger markets than ours, such as the US, China and... uh... the EU.

Even though I agree with Brexit, I still can't enjoy seeing people suffer, even to justify how I feel about the whole thing. It is going to happen though.

 

[anonymous_abc]

Given that the problem is that ISDS is perceived to reduce Wallonian sovereignty (since they can be sued whenever they make laws that adversely affect Canadian corporations), it would be ironic if the UK's awesome deals basically involve handing over control to foreign corporations in secret courts.

I expect our awesome deal with the USA will involve all disputes being settled in some East Texan court. In a May vs Clinton battle, I know who I'd put money on. Especially if our clown parade of foreign, business and trade secretaries get involved.

Perceived?
Also by extension any international company with Canadian branches, so basically every company of note probably.

 

[Theonik]

I love Europeans, I don't hate them.

Μα είναι για το δικό τους το καλό!

 

[Heartfyre]

I'm mistaken then, I understood that no country had English as an official language besides us registered at the EU, The Irish 'use' Gaelic etc.

Incorrect. Constitutionally, Ireland has two official languages: Gaeilge and English. English will remain an official European language.

 

[oti]

Μα είναι για το δικό τους το καλό!

Greek is too different compared to English. So is French. The official language shouldn't be changed.

German would get my vote though. I want to see people suffer through Die Frau and Das Mädchen.

 

[djkimothy]

Can Canada afford it? Last I heard their economy was in the shitter.

we can afford it. our economy is just slowing. but we're not in recession mode.

There's still TTP.

 

[Joni]

I cannot envision a future where English is not the go to language for all the Eurocrats. Documents might still have to be drafted and translated officially but on a day to day basis I think everyone has resigned to using English. Which is fair enough and wont suddenly change after Brexit.

Speaking of which what is going to happen to all those British civil servants in EU institutions? Doesn't look like they will be welcome in the UK civil service. I worry that they will all run to private lobbying firms in Europe...

They will probably keep the best if possible. As for English. Yes, it will be the one used most commonly. But it is fine for Europe to use one of their other working languages considering the team has its fair share of French speaking negotiatiors. See not only the French but the Belgians and Juncker.

Given that the problem is that ISDS is perceived to reduce Wallonian sovereignty (since they can be sued whenever they make laws that adversely affect Canadian corporations), it would be ironic if the UK's awesome deals basically involve handing over control to foreign corporations in secret courts.

I expect our awesome deal with the USA will involve all disputes being settled in some East Texan court. In a May vs Clinton battle, I know who I'd put money on. Especially if our clown parade of foreign, business and trade secretaries get involved.

It is not the problem. The problem is that Wallonia simply does very little with Canada meaning this would solely benefit Flanders at a point that the biggest party in Wallonia has nothing to say in Belgium. They were more than happy to support CETA when they were on power.

 

[Lucumo]

Let's just compromise and use Dutch.

No.

I always thought Latin would be a great "please nobody" solution to the common language question.

Now that is a good proposition. Too bad I already forgot everything I ever learned after only a few years.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Incorrect. Constitutionally, Ireland has two official languages: Gaeilge and English. English will remain an official European language.

Each EU country is only allowed to register one language for official use, though, IIRC, and because the UK went with English, Ireland went with Gaeilge. That said the EU will continue to use English anyway because there are way more second-language English speakers than second-language French speakers.

 

[Joni]

Each EU country is only allowed to register one language for official use, though.

I can see at least one country where that would be a huge problem.

 

[Irminsul]

I can see at least one country where that would be a huge problem.

Well, I guess you don't have to register a language that another country already registered. Which country has two languages unique to itself?

Of course, if you count languages only few people speak, there are a few, but they fall under special protection by the EU.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I can see at least one country where that would be a huge problem.

I'm presuming you mean Switzerland? Fortunately, Germany nominates German, Italy Italian, and France French.

 

[Joni]

I'm presuming you mean Switzerland? Fortunately, Germany nominates German, Italy Italian, and France French.

Well, I guess you don't have to register a language that another country already registered. Which country has two languages unique to itself?

Belgium. We of course don't use any unique languages, but the choice of a specific language would be quite controversial. Could be there is just an exception for us somewhere. I can't think there is somewhere a document saying Belgium is registered as only Dutch or only French.

 

[Irminsul]

Belgium. We of course don't use any unique languages, but the choice of a specific language would be quite controversial. Could be there is just an exception for us somewhere. I can't think there is somewhere a document saying Belgium is registered as only Dutch or only French.

Well, fortunately you can just nominate none and have all your three languages represented

 

[Xando]

This CETA fiasco bodes well for brexit negotiations when every country has a veto

 

[KingSnake]

Damn Canada just walked out of that trade deal after 7 years because of 1 region in Belgium. Some people are going to be very salty.

Funny thing, Wallonia is not the only one opposing to the deal, Romania and Bulgaria will not sign it without Canada dropping the visa requirements.

Which says a great deal about how the UK deal vs. freedom of movement will go.

 

[Pancake Mix]

Funny thing, Wallonia is not the only one opposing to the deal, Romania and Bulgaria will not sign it without Canada dropping the visa requirements.

Which says a great deal about how the UK deal vs. freedom of movement will go.

Yeah, Canada is not going to do that. Canada used to have Visa requirements for the Czech Republic within the Schengen Area too.

So in other words that was wasting Canada's time, no surprise.

 

[D4Danger]

Canada, baby, we'll treat you right. Have you heard about our cakes?

 

[bosseye]

This CETA fiasco bodes well for brexit negotiations when every country has a veto

I thought this. Shows the potential impossibility of the UK securing anything like a sensible EU trade deal in any sort of sensible timeframe when it can be scuppered at any point by any member for all kinds of reasons.

Mind you, on the flipside it also serves as a reminder that trade deals outside the EU will be theoretically a lot more straightforward.