When have you ever seen a colonial power leave when it was time? They will get out past it's prime, and not a moment sooner XD.
The UK votes to leave the European Union |OUT2| Mayday, Mayday, I've lost an ARM
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When have you ever seen a colonial power leave when it was time? They will get out past it's prime, and not a moment sooner XD.
Yet, for hundreds of thousands of people in this country, rubbish like what the Mail prints is all they ever hear and they believe every bit of it.
Dacre/Murdoch controlled print press has done so much damage to this country.
The Daily Mail watched an interview on Newsnight and then came up with that as their front page? Fuck them. The finance minister of France is not the leaders of 27 nations.
Anyway, I'm praying - and I'm not religious - that Ms May becomes our prime minister. She's stern, commands respect and is exactly what we need to be taken seriously in our negotiations with the EU. I wouldn't go out for a drink with her, but she's definitely PM material. The UK will be a laughing stock with Boris at the helm and Crabb isn't a leader.
Anyway, I'm praying - and I'm not religious - that Ms May becomes our prime minister. She's stern, commands respect and is exactly what we need to be taken seriously in our negotiations with the EU. I wouldn't go out for a drink with her, but she's definitely PM material. The UK will be a laughing stock with Boris at the helm and Crabb isn't a leader.
If that French proposal is true the person behind it is a genius evil. It brings the narrative of banks vs. people in UK and it will push the banks in the City to go on with their relocation plans. And it won't pass in EU anyhow because of Germany and Eastern Europe, but the damage will be done by then.
PJV3
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It's tempting to go full Boris because I feel by the end of his term we would be a Republic.
Nobody on the international stage will tolerate his shit, Clinton would butcher the fuck.
SymbiantXenos
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Remember this time last week when the country hadn't gone to shit yet?
Good times.
Good times.
Choosing a suitable tory leader is like picking the nicest looking shit to me. Sure she doesn't have corn but she still stinks up the place.
Chittagong
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Fuck me. The general public will buy that plan in an instant, less brown people AND fuck bankers, it's a double whammy. EU loses nothing of value, and gains City's banking sector.
Shhhh, no Project Fears, only memes now
Depends on what the sun or mail tells them to think.
The best thing of all, the EU doesn't even actually need to do that deal, as long as the UK invokes article 50, the EU can get the banking and give no leeway on migration, because really what's the alternative get an even worse deal?
So who plans on investing in property in Paris and Frankfurt? Probably a good time to buy up New York too. Hope everyone is brushing up on their French and German.
Poor London didn't deserve this.
Palculator
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Well, that was fucking quick.
I can't stop thinking about that moment in PM Q's. When all's said and done, we're decades past this, and the inevitable film about Brexit is produced, what Cameron said to Corbyn is going to be a cornerstone of it. Our PM literally said to the leader of the opposition, wake up and save us from my mess.
If the French pull this off, the (usually) good natured rivalry and banter between our nations is over and we have lost. Straight lost. We will now and forever be the laughing stock who gleefully handed over a piece of our national security because some people thought we had a few too many immigrants.
Fortunately (in a overall unfortunate situation) both Theresa May and Boris Johnson know this and also know it guarantees them a place in the history books as one of the UK's worst leaders - a legacy that'll never be forgotten. However, if an insane moron like Crabb, or UKIP if there's a snap election, gain power, it becomes a very real concern.
If the French pull this off, the (usually) good natured rivalry and banter between our nations is over and we have lost. Straight lost. We will now and forever be the laughing stock who gleefully handed over a piece of our national security because some people thought we had a few too many immigrants.
Fortunately (in a overall unfortunate situation) both Theresa May and Boris Johnson know this and also know it guarantees them a place in the history books as one of the UK's worst leaders - a legacy that'll never be forgotten. However, if an insane moron like Crabb, or UKIP if there's a snap election, gain power, it becomes a very real concern.
It was quite shocking to be honest and I hope it hammers home how much of a mess this country is in.
FTFY
NekoFever
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This country's fucked. Even if we get sane leadership who put the brakes on and don't let this happen, the knuckle-draggers get angry and all vote UKIP.
efyu_lemonardo
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is there a recording of that moment?
Perhaps not UKIP per say, but its new (probably more right wing) replacement: http://www.theguardian.com/politics...lans-new-party-to-replace-ukip-without-farage
Palculator
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Off topic FYI: You can strikethrough with "
PJV3
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It's a reworking of Cromwell addressing the rump parliament, I didn't think that much of it.
Corbyn is low hanging fruit.
It lets the politicians of the here and now look like winners. They get their immigration halts and get access to the single market, and they get to stick it to the rotten bankers.
Politicians later will actually feel the effects of the loss. But thats for 5 years down the road once the gap in tax receipts start to really hurt. Many will claim it couldn't have been known and others will claim plausible deniability of the ramifications.
It is evil genius by Paris. Amazingly well played.
Elaugaufein
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Just want to clarify: Murdoch's an American, he gave up his Australian citizenship to extend his empire. And if it's any consolation his newspapers wreck Australian politics too.
Thanks fixed it.
The most relevant thing I have seen today was this http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=208713046&postcount=1777 , although got to say watching house of commons and seeing a couple of MP's having no idea that the EU laws and so on were still in effect was great.
SuperGamer
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Murdoch is truly poison. It makes me laugh when you talk to conspiracy theorists in regards to the illuminate etc, while is people like him who control the world.
Now what are the odds that because you won't get a deal that doesn't include full immigration control the masses will elect extreme right partied like ukip making it actually become the majority of the government?
As an Italian immigrant in UK the only thought really scares me
As an Italian immigrant in UK the only thought really scares me
I just realized that all of this touched off a week before the 100th anniversay of the Battle of the Somme.
The whole situation is such a disgrace to the memories of the soldiers who fought and died there as well as the innocents caught in the middle. European unity's crucial in avoiding a repeat of the past.
The whole situation is such a disgrace to the memories of the soldiers who fought and died there as well as the innocents caught in the middle. European unity's crucial in avoiding a repeat of the past.
Passporting is separate from the single market access. Passporting is what decides whether a bank in one place can do business in another.
Basically, Britain can sell goods to the EU, but it can't have banks that work in the EU.
From earlier in the thread:
EDIT: Oh lets throw on top of this that leaders in 4 years time will blame the collapse of London on Sadiq Khan. It will play into UKIP voters' views perfectly.
No chance of them getting a majority but they will make massive gains, a couple dozen seats probably. UKIP's best case scenario is a coalition with the Tories but if Labour really implode the Tories won't need them to make a government.
Thanks for the link. I didn't know that.
Everything post-Brexit is worse than what we had. It's incredible.
The rest of the world is laughing at the UK. What a mess.
As a non-English person, the far-right gaining traction is something that worries me. I'm really starting to believe it's over for me in England. It's time to start looking elsewhere to build a future for myself.
I'm with you brother!
I wonder if I should consider moving to Scotland or if it's safer to just go back to Europe... I definitely don't want to go back to Italy but I don't want to learn a third language either.
Maybe Ireland would be the best solution, but I'm not sure that is the best choice for a gay couple.
Any suggestion?
I have had the exact same fear ever since people started talking about the idea of "2nd referendums" and outright ignoring of the result.
I've said before that I'm more scared at this possibility than of Brexit itself. I can see anything including riots happening if politicians find a way to ignore the leave result.
AHA-Lambda
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Christ, that's terrifying O_O
We'd welcome anyone into scotland. We need to up our population.
ReplacementPelican
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This is just making me depressed. PM/Future PM/Parliament need to grow some balls and admit there's no feasible way of leaving without fucking the country.
Just people going crazy over a Daily Mail cover and what someone wrote on his Twitter. XD
Guys, there will be no compromise regarding free movement! It's a, probably THE, core principle of the EU. If UK gets it, others will want it too. The whole EU project goes bust.
That evil French plan is bollocks too because Germany will certainly not let them do as they please snatching all banks up for Paris. Also everyone (with a bit of brain) will see through it. XD
efyu_lemonardo
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How do these people sleep at night?
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