You wont get it. You'll just get the same debunked reasons reposted by the exact same posters over and over again. It's the 2015 General Election all over again.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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You wont get it. You'll just get the same debunked reasons reposted by the exact same posters over and over again. It's the 2015 General Election all over again.
Dutch Gronk
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If we all close our eyes and keep saying it, it will be true right?
Not sure if you're trying to be funny or are just an ignorant asshole?
The hell?
I didn't either, but many did. Tough shit.
Heckler456
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It's probably more accurate to say Greece failed themselves.
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Apologies, it's just easier to say rather than provide a whole list of places.
Of course, I could have just the 51%. That might be better actually.
smokeandmirrors
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Not xenophobic or racist tho.
And they are both out. Farage seemed pretty scared today. I think they don't even realize what they just did.
AntraxSuicide
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Yeah, as an American, I can't believe how many people I know from the UK who think we'll just continue business as usual with them (or even sillier, that our deals will be better for the UK).
Without any of the EU backing the UK, the UK will accept whatever deal we demand. You (as in, the UK) voted away your leverage, and if it ever comes down to a choice between the EU and UK, we're going with the EU every time.
STOP BULLYING LEAVE VOTERS. THINK ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES.
It depends what the possible other benefits are. The majority of the electorate took the opinion that taking back control of borders and laws from Brussels was worth the economic risk.
The UK has one of the largest economies in the world. Lots of countries will want to negotiate trade deals including the EU. The risk of course is that the terms won't be as good but hopefully the other deals we are now able to enter into will mitigate that to a certain extent.
Credit rating agency Moody's cuts UK outlook from stable to negative after #Brexit
http://bbc.in/28SOTVj http://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/746452831994011652/photo/1
http://bbc.in/28SOTVj http://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/746452831994011652/photo/1
Relaxed Muscle
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I don't agree, but this is not the place to discuss that.
But I feel that if there's a country in the fucking EU, that can say the EU failed them is Greece. UK in the other hand...is like WTF.
WrenchNinja
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What exactly about the outcome are you ecstatic about?
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Yep. I think that is the case.
The minority of the UK that voted to stay in the EU clearly think that the brexit supporters are all racist morons and that narrative is being pushed hard by the media who keep showing footage of interviews with said racist morons and old ladies weeping because England will be great again because it's now back in charge of it's own ship free from the yoke of tyranny from the EU.
Some balanced reporting would be nice.
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GHG
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Im watching it live via film on tv. If I could post the video then I would. Like I said, once it appears on the BBC site or elsewhere I will share it. If not, feel free to tune in yourself in the meantime. They are doing stories across various areas of the country.
Some areas are indeed "immigration, immigration, immigration" but not all of them like some people here would have you believe.
ClosingADoor
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Wonder how much the UK will lose because of higher interest rates on their national debt.
WrenchNinja
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Is he kicking the dude off or are they doing silly walks off the cliff???
It's ok everyone, you can stop panicking, kamspy things it'll be fine. The experts were probably lying the evil bastards.
Their populace just voluntarily voted for a probable recession. Would you lend money to the UK?
Nothing will change, though!
BlueTsunami
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GHG
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What are you trying to achieve?
smokeandmirrors
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Silly walks. Look at the dude on the left
Fantastic job by the New Yorker. That cover is amazing.
Very similar to the US, where the poorest regions most dependent on outside money (the federal government giving money and support to the South) consistently vote against the one thing keeping them afloat.
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I feel like I just got punched in the stomach.
He's not a leave voter since he's French.
KonradLaw
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Isn't it a bit too late for that though? In London ethnic brits already are minority. I don't think multiculturalism is universally good and I believe countries should have ability to stay homogenous if they want to, but for UK that ship has sailed a long time ago. At this point you can just slow the process, but UK being all white christian country is in the past and it won't come back.
Spirit of Jazz
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The issue is that this is the stupidest way to have an "uprising" against the government that's imaginable. Why not vote in European Parliament election? Why not vote for a party other than the conservatives if their issue is a capitalist elite who's never going to look out for your interests? Fuck, why not take to the streets in a movement that's against the government that's bleeding them if they truly believe that's the cause of their problems?
Instead they use xenophobia as a call to arms with the goal of giving even more power to an increasingly right wing government who now have even more reason to further enforce the austerity measures that have been hurting the lower classes so much.
CitizenVectron
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Perhaps that is true. However, borders will not be affected even 1% after this, and they don't realize it. If the UK wishes to create agreements with the EU, an open border for workers will be a mandatory part of the deal. Countries like Switzerland have even been forced to accept it as special partners (which UK will become). So it will not stop inter-EU migration at all. And the majority of immigration to the UK is from outside the EU, which the UK already had control over and isn't affected at all by this vote.
I'm just trying to give people some optimism. It seems like the rest the world is basically telling them they are doomed. The president of the US insulted them deeply today. I was just reminding them that there is no reason they can't make it on their own. We should be supporting the UK's independence with open arms. We're a nation who prides ourselves on independence and we should support other nations with the same ambition in my opinion. A lot of other great nations in the EU are picking up the slack of poorly run countries. I think they should follow in the UK's footstep and abolish that dumpster fire of a union.
No it doesn't. That is just pure hyperbole. If the rating is dropped from triple A to eg. just AA the difference is definitely not between trustworthy, and "someone that you shouldn't be lending money to". The real difference would be a small raise in the interest rates.
Audioboxer
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Bro, I only expect to see 1 Brown person every 50 on my daily travels or its uncontrolled. Uncontrolled I tell you.
Sigh...
On a serious note when henious crimes take place we largely need to look at how our police forces and Government handle them. How our intelligence is shared and how forces act on it. Not just blindly point the finger at every person that is somehow related to a criminal due to religion or skin colour.
I am an atheist and find religion incredibly backwards and some of the beliefs anti-progressive. However what people do in their private life and in a place of worship as long as not illegal or violence inciting is up to them. Freedom of religion is something we need to protect.
As is freedom of speech. But when you say hateful bigoted shit expect to be called out on it.
I'm reminded of that Stewart Lee bit about voting for UKIP as a protest vote;
"It's like shitting in your hotel bed as a protest against poor service, and then realising that you have to sleep in a shitted-up bed."
Already Torn
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You're a laughing stock, but in a way that makes us all feel a sense of dread.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...hat-the-eu-is-hours-after-voting-to-leave-it/
We are a laughing stock around the world
49% is not a minority
CelticKnight
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Farage said that if the Leave vote lost buy a narrow margin (like 52% to 48%) that he'd fight for a second referendum.
Is there any chance the Remain side can? Please? Pretty please, with sugar on top?
Is there any chance the Remain side can? Please? Pretty please, with sugar on top?
Of course they want trade deals with UK. Who doesn't? But do you really think you will get the same deal as before? EU was equal to the US in terms of GDP.
Do you think the UK is still a good base of operations for the rest of Europe?
Miles Quaritch
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These people probably didn't realise how much the EU was investing in their region because Remain did a truly awful job of highlighting just how much the EU has helped and invested.
Just look at Cornwall. Do you think the average voter knew the EU was pumping money into their county for 15 years? Hell, I didn't know and I tried to be as informed as possible...
Why are you surprised that the poorest areas of the country are the ones most clamoring for change? It is pretty typical human behavior really.
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