At least when Remain loses we only have to talk about reality instead of reading endless posts about #PencilGate.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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Oh, has anyone seen any members of the cabinet yet? Sturgeon has at least been out to say this is what we're doing to move forward, but Cameron & Osborne have gone to ground in the aftermath.
I'm thinking about getting a German passport. Just to be sure.
they would be calling it fixed in fact they did while it was happening. It's not being a sore loser to say we have made a stupid fucked up choice here.
I agree that it is frustrating but there are reasons why so many young voters are apathetic towards politics lately. The betrayal of Lib Dem promises in 2010, increased tuition fees...gives the impression the government actively work against them. I don't know what you can do to motivate them to actually get out and put an X on a piece of paper though.
both sides have to protect themselves, why would the UK intentionally cause themselves issue just to please Europeans? perhaps when they wrote this article the EU should of said that they get to call it...
The UK has to protect it's own interest
hydrophilic attack
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Typical Brexiter
at least they bloody well bothered to actually vote. I would respect their anger and frustration if they lost. But the remain camp who are angry and loud, yet didn't even bother to vote?! It's like me getting a takeaway with a load of mates, saying "nah I'm too busy, you choose what I have" and then flipping the fuck out when it turns out there's pineapple on my pizza
AHA-Lambda
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second day, still can't believe we actually did it
nothing of value was lost
Why are you happy about this?
HOW can you be happy about what you just posted?
If this isn't a troll then you're an ignoramous
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Hey there is no need for that. They are just anxious about the future. I wish I could say what I know in hope it will calm the nerves even if its just a little bit but I cant.
So its just hold on tight
call_kotaku
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it just sounds like someone quitting the company they co-owned and then immediately reapplying as an intern, I don't see how any politician would honestly propose it in those terms, even if it's the most sensible course of action if you want to be part of the EU but a mandate prevented you from ever becoming a member on paper.
I mean, is someone's platform literally going to be "damage control"?
Nope.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Yes it is quite odd. Puts me in my mind of the GE last year, when we were so confident labour would win it.
.Me a few pages ago said:
because insulting people is the best way to go?
Yep. Too many people sticking their heads in the sand and assuming things will merrily go their way. Brexit has proved this is not reality.
paperboywriter
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But what if youre young and voted? Are you allowing those to complain?
Messofanego
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Pretty sure TCRS is not being sarcastic, considering he's a UKIP supporter and hates the EU on every level.
the lefty tears. delicious.
to all others: are you seriously incapable of differentiating? 30% of the voters are racist scum? tell me, which party do the people who want the UK teave the EU or limit the EUs influence vote for? Labour, LibDem, Conservative? All three are essentially pro-EU parties. Or does voting for an anti-EU stance make you racist? Actually, in the lefty world view that wouldn't surprise me.
PJV3
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General elections are every few years, this is it for a generation at least. I have no intention of working hard to create a Tory England, fuck that.
Mt Heart Attack
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By collapsing I literally meant losing territory. The UK will lose Gibraltar as a result of this and it's looking likely it'll lose Scotland. The country as it is probably won't exist anymore. And that's looking more likely that other member states leaving the EU any time soon.
It seems unreal how unfazed the UK seems to be at the prospect of crumbling apart really. People seem to be talking about possible repercussions of this on the rest of the EU, of other countries following the UK's example, etc. more than they seem concerened about the situation of striking internal divisions amongst generations, social classes, political parties, with a resigning prime minister and an unbelievable display of incompetence from the whole political class, Leavers in front.
In the rest of the world, the UK is becoming a laughing stock.
I'm a young voter who went and voted for remain, I know dozens if not hundreds of others who did the same. Thanks for pretending your retread of the tired constant slagging of young people has any sort of moral high ground. Weren't you the person moaning about the negative rhetoric of people on this forum yesterday. And now your response to an entire generation of people is "Fuck em"?
Well we're fucked anyway, but at least we can rely on condescending folk like you to kick us while we're down.
according to you yeah
Chinese Cartoons
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But if we hold our peace and agree to go along with insanity and foolishness doesn't that make us also insane and foolish?
geordiemp
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You paint it as if staying in EU is also a dead certainly for stability and rosy life, there is Greece, Portugal, Ireland and maybe Italy in a mess, and you also have albania, Turkey and others joining.
Either way its no bed of roses. Its not as high but still a very real risk for Eu to go to the wall being overly encompassing of economies so much divergent from Germany, France and Netherlands, not forgetting the migrant crisis.
GHG
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Oh my god the comments.
It's like some people thought this was all some kind of joke.
AHA-Lambda
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Cos they're 2 different voting systems of course!
jakonovski
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It's curious how the uk's interest is now not leaving the EU.
RedSparrows
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Considering, I'd warrant, within their ranks lie the majority of racist loons and conspiracy nuts (no, that is NOT to say all Leave voters are the same, before anyone yaps), it'd be even worse than Remainers moaning.
AHA-Lambda
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Yeah. No regrets
You make a post about educational institutions losing funding and being happy about it then I'll call you everything under the damn sun
This is something I had to admittedly get over myself. I didn't vote last year - also had final uni exams - because I didn't believe that any vote would lead to change.
It's a bad situation. Young people feel betrayed and as such aren't voting. Thus when they pass up the chance to vote in events such as this, it can come at their detriment.
Honestly, the generation shaming is pissing me off on both sides.
Good to hear but remember that polls mean very little. I say this as someone who worked in market research for 6 years and conducted countless surveys just like this.
Carl2291
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It's already happening. UKIP are cutting majorly into the Labour vote up north, and if the Tories ignore the results of this referendum you can be sure as hell that UKIP will eat further into Conservative votes.
You're misreading what I said.
I have huge respect for anyone who voted. Why be angry at someone who voted leave? Why? It's their decision. Same for remain. These people, like us, got off their asses and voted. You seem to be missing my point here - I'm angry at those who didn't bother to vote yet now want to be heard. They had their chance. They blew it.
Joelstinton14
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What is wrong with people being upset or frustrated. It shows that people care.
Retainers, including myself are frustrated because of our futures. We feel that the wrong decision as been made. And that decision was arrived at piss poor base instinct soundbites, misinformation and lies.
When leave voters realised they have been misled this could get nasty.
Already Farage as debunked the NHS spending.
Already Ukip have said that immigration levels won't go down
Already Daniel Hannan as said that it likely that we would have to accept free movement of people in any deal with the EU.
I think it is a fair thing to say a majority of Leave voters voted on Immigration, putting money into the NHS and that our borders will be closed.
They have been misled. And that is desperately sad. Some have already realised this, some didn't realise what their vote meant, just look at tv reactions from the public. Already some leave voters are angry because of the above i have mentioned.
Also just shy of 50% as voted to remain, it is not that many people who seperate the outcome of this vote. tensions and people emotions are understandably high.
there's loads of stuff about people immediately regretting a leave vote in media
yet there's little evidence of it being widespread. it's just a few examples. whereas leave won by 1.25 million votes.
just feels like an indulgence for remain voters to make themselves feel a little better (now they know i was right all along!!)
paperboywriter
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From all the promises the leave people made, what is realistically going into effect? Which won't?
fine I will post...
Deal for UK
I believe the UK has jumped first from a sinking ship, the BBC is also reporting this so I am not alone, the EU is broken and all the UK has done is start that process....
UK Demands
1. an immediate ban on low skilled labour coming over whilst exit strategy finalised. To help stop a rush
2. Free trade for all, any fees imposed on UK will be reciprocally imposed on EU.
3. points style immigration, a 15 year hold on low skilled labour unless a company can show evidence of not being able to fulfil jobs with British residents.
4. Any Europeans all ready in situ are welcome to stay, if you leave the UK you then become subject to the points system
5. All criminals who are non British are to be immediately deported
Chinese Cartoons
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second day, still can't believe we actually did it
nothing of value was lost
We don't need no education, we have research papers like the sun and daily mail.
This mattered while UK was in EU. Now it's a booked loss, it doesn't have any importance in the negotiations unless you plan to continue to contribute to EU budget.
Audioboxer
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FUCK THE MI5.
PENCILS RUINED THE VOTE.
IMMIGRANTS EVERYWHERE! THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!
No, they wouldn't. Both sides have to accept when you lose a vote as serious as this you're going to be pissed. Asking anyone to shrug it off and go to work on Monday is something you should hypothetically put forward to yourself if you lost. If you lap that up, some passion you had for fighting for what you believe in.
Protest is a natural and healthy response to political decisions. Dealt with that.
Its only peoples future now why would that be a big deal? :/
This is not a game.
Kadayi
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Because it done. Like it or not, the referendum is over. All of this noise is simply people's unwillingness to accept the result. There's no re-roll saving throw on this.
All there is now is moving forward, so better to focus on that versus crying over spilt milk.
RedSparrows
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Aye. It does, however, chime with worries about a) 28% of people not voting, b) voting on emotive issues not fully understood vis this particular referendum (immigration) and c) the general problem of democracy - best of a bad job.
It wasn't over a game of football.
I'm not that confident. Everyone was so sure that Remain would win. And look where we all are now.
One thing to come out about this referendum is that while a lot of people like to talk, they don't back it up. Especially our generation.
November could very much be like two days ago: Gen Yer's so sure that Clinton has got this in the bag, that they don't come out and vote. Our turnout is shit anyway; Obama didn't increase that turnout anymore than any other candidate. That and many Millennials don't seem to get that it is more important than just Trump v Clinton: this is about voting for the Senate/House, and who gets to determine what the Supreme Court will be like. See several of B Sanders' more salty supporters.
The lesson of the Brexit referendum is to never take anything for granted.
I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm.
I could even imagine such an outcome. After all literally all hell broke loose when people actually realized what the Brexit really means.
RedSparrows
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Crying over spilt milk is a perfectly valid reaction. Stop pretending it's not.
Even then, it's not necessarily all simple wallowing either, at least outside GAF ;D
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