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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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ClosingADoor
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- Scotland talking about leaving the UK
- Cameron resigned
- Leave already backtracking on NHS and immigration promises
- No clue who is in charge at the moment
- EU already pushing for Article 50 to get this over with
- Markets are scared
- Companies actively looking for new locations outside the UK
- People have already been fired
- Racist abuse hurled in the streets to immigrants and kids
Looks pretty bad to me. Of course this is two days after the referendum and people are upset, but that this is turning out to be a bad idea seems pretty clear.
Kill Your Masters
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Wtf is going on. Fucking bigots finally coming out. Pieces of shit attacking children. Disgusting.
Not sure if posted, a "nice" collection of UK racism that is happening right now.
https://m.facebook.com/sarah.leblanc.718/albums/10101369198638985/
Not sure if posted, a "nice" collection of UK racism that is happening right now.
https://m.facebook.com/sarah.leblanc.718/albums/10101369198638985/
Can you replace immigrants with 'brown people'? For the sake of accuracy.
-Plasma Reus-
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The government is begging the SNP to veto to safe face?
What is happening..
What is happening..
No Jimbob. The absolute reverse happened. Thankfully this time round, there was a coordinated plan with central banks around the world. It did help that we foresaw this.
AHA-Lambda
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"We were going to leave, but that bloody Scotland! Grrr *shakes fist*. Well, no need to force them, back to business".
Not going to be the next leader of the Tories I honestly believe, so he's going to hide out for now.
phisheep
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I think you are sort of right. But the larger problem is not so much anti-intellectualism itself, which is always going to exist in vast numbers wherever, but political pandering to anti-intellectualism.
Though I'm not at all sure how you could stop it.
I'm open to it. We've needed some big political rethinking for many years now, essentially nothing has changed in UK politics since Attlee (Lab) and Thatcher (Con). This is the trigger, this is the problem. Needs to be sorted.
If there is a message for other countries in this, it is to lance the festering wound before it gets to this stage.
It is more or less what I expected to happen in the event of a Leave vote. No joke, but difficult politics. It needed doing, but I wish it had not taken this outcome to trigger it.
No, it would only require the UK government to consult with the Scottish Parliament. This is a matter of UK law and the UK constitutional settlement and is entirely independent of the triggering of Art 50 with the EU.
Because until the oil prices go up 8 fold England is paying Scotland's bills.
blazinglord
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I don't think anyone plausibly believed that Westminster would stop Scotland having a second independence referendum if that is what they want. Indeed, there's probably a lot of support among the Brexit supporters who resent the Barnett Formula and West Lothian question who wouldn't mind Scotland leaving.
Question is though, will Scotland vote to leave a country that is, while admittedly diminished in the wake of Brexit, still going to remain a first world country and a NATO member? Moreover, I cannot honestly believe that when the dust settles in the years to come, that there won't be some trade and visa-free relationship with the EU. Yes it won't be as good as the current setup, but oh well, no empire lasts forever.
Europe is currently having a meltdown. Everyone just needs to relax until all involved have calm down. That is really what is needed right now.
Darkstorne
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Part of me would love to see the Queen block this. "63 years I've sat on the throne and let you do what you want. I'm finally using all the votes I've saved up to stop you muppets ruining everything."
It might be the end of the monarchy, but in hindsight she would go down as not only the last, but possibly greatest monarch of British history.
Heckler456
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He's gotta be doing something, right?
This is actually doomsday prophecy levels of deceiving.
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Sturgeon has effectivley been the UK's prime minister in the past few days.
And everyone seems to like her.
And everyone seems to like her.
Majukun
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that much?
Stockpiling glutinous cake
here we go
He's informally leading the informal discussions, in manner that would be described as the opposite of formal.
Agree with her being PM material. And I didn't particular like her but her general handling of the last few days, regardless of what happens next, has blown the fuck out of any Westminster clown
chancellor
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Probably wishing he isn't going to be the PM in charge of a needless recession and the break-up of the UK. I bet his remain article for the Telegraph is not looking so bad now.
Darkstorne
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It can't calm down until we know what the UK is doing, and if that decision is to leave then there will still be turmoil for the next couple of years. A lot of the meltdown is caused by the financial instability, and until that levels out again it won't stop. And it won't level out until there's a clear plan in place and known consequences.
ClosingADoor
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Seems the Eastern Europeans are also getting targeted. But Muslims will have it the worst probably - even though they have nothing to do with it, because they probably didn't immigrate from the EU.
That's what I expect as well. In longterm, the Brexit is a good deal for Scotland, never before it has so much support.
I don't think Sturgeon is going to block Brexit. It would totally kill Scotland's chance of independence.
Didn't DC say there was no exit plan?
blazinglord
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Shhh, you will be hanged, drawn and quartered on here by admitting that you are a leave-supporter!
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
I would vote SNP if they were an option for me. They are the only competent an decent political party. Though they aren't the left wing fantasy many paint them as.
Tak3n is just a moron who never argues in good faith.
Audioboxer
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lol, no.

Once in a lifetime referendum two years ago 2 million+ voted to remain part of the united kingdom... why are we having these votes when you don't respect the results anyway sturgeon, 1.6 million following all political party's in Scotlands lead to remain is no real mandate... twisted mouth liar
Hey, I want that too. They're all wankers and will be in the post for one term maximum while the shit hits the fan. Best go rip them off like a band aid.
Probably even longer.
I don't think anyone wants the UK getting out of the EU without knowing how the relationship will look like afterwards, and that does take time to discuss.
ferrasvansen
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Yep it will be straight swap, no veto for a second referendum and with no press support for the Union, and likely no Labour and lib dem opposition will be an easy yes vote.
AHA-Lambda
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Agreed, it's actually incredible. She's always been a very good public facing politician but god damn it's amazing how nobody else seems to be doing anything.
I'm sure we can find alot more and worse comments about Boris, Cameron, Gove, May, Osborne etc.
30yearsofhurt
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Hopefully not. The longer you delay the worse it gets.
The good news is that if Scotland leaves and joins the EU, the English government will be able to provide many jobs for people to create and maintain a boarder.
ferrasvansen
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Yeah they have all given up, the realisation that serious trouble is coming and they all vanish, cowards the fucking lot of them.
blazinglord
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Yeah I read in The Sunday Times today that he is meeting with Gove over the weekend and making plans to announce something next week (potentially Monday).
Really? I've been a proud leave supporter on this forum for a period of at least 5 years.
Darkstorne
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He has no say in anything though, and he has zero accountability. Which is exactly why, when asked about whether immigration will sharply decrease now, he replied "That's what I think should happen, because we promised to lower it to the tens of thousands. So that's what I think the next Prime Minister should work towards, and it should be a Brexit PM."
He can say anything, and when it doesn't happen, he can say "it's not my fault!" And he's right. It won't be. It's also why Boris is nowhere to be seen because he knows he can't confirm all his promises will be kept. He doesn't have the luxury of zero accountability, and he's already suggested immigration levels won't really change.
Audioboxer
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Probably in general, yeah, but the Scottish ref question really rustles soo many folks jimmies. Up North yeah, but especially down South.
Majukun
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signals from the EU seemed to point in another direction,asking the UK to hurry up with the procedure because this state of uncertainity is poison for everyone
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Also worth noting is that IDS has made a career out of lying. He's one of the most loathsome, odious cunts around. He stands out as particularly maligant even amongst the cabal of Fox, Johnson, Farage and Gove.
HazySaiyan
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What a fucking moron that toad is. God this whole thing has been an absolute shambles, I've never been more disappointed in this country and more scared for it.
I think the position the UK Government is in right now, they will bent in front of Sturgeon begging and crying out 'NICOLA PLEASE YOU CAN RUSTLE OUR JIMMIES EVERY GODDAMN NIGHT JUST PLEASE VETO THIS AND SAVE US"
ClosingADoor
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If Scotland can and does veto it, I really wonder how the Leave people in England will react. It won't be pretty.
Theoretically the current UK government can as well. The whole thing isn't binding. But the question is, who will want to take the blame. Leave won in the end, so whoever blocks it is going to get a lot of hate.
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