No it absolutely isn't. I have argued long and hard in the previous thread about the democratic shortcomings of the EU being my biggest issue. You might not agree, and that's fine. I can (unlike a lot of people here, seemingly) accept that people might have an alternative point of view...but to accuse me of not being bona fide in my beliefs and handwaving any perspective I or any other person (17 million people) people might have which would prefer to leave the EU to racism, stupidity, simple-mindedness or anything else is frankly insulting. Especially when no one has actually managed to come up with good reasons as to why my arguments do not hold water. I am more than happy to debate it with anyone...although it's sometimes hard to reply to everyone while being dogpiled.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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No it absolutely isn't. I have argued long and hard in the previous thread about the democratic shortcomings of the EU being my biggest issue. You might not agree, and that's fine. I can (unlike a lot of people here, seemingly) accept that people might have an alternative point of view...but to accuse me of not being bona fide in my beliefs and handwaving any perspective I or any other person (17 million people) people might have which would prefer to leave the EU to racism, stupidity, simple-mindedness or anything else is frankly insulting. Especially when no one has actually managed to come up with good reasons as to why my arguments do not hold water. I am more than happy to debate it with anyone...although it's sometimes hard to reply to everyone while being dogpiled.
Nope. Shit been fucked since Thatcher; probably even before then.
The good ones are not personable and people only see personality so they get vote out after one term.
SaviourMK2
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Considering the age difference between voters who chose to remain and those who chose to leave, it's sad to see Baby Boomers continue to screw the younger generations more and more.
MassiveNights
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Looks like cameron is about to resign
He couldn't have waited to backtrack on that until tomorrow? Wow.
I mean, you lied your ass off for months and then the second the vote is in you start telling the truth? Why?
Sumio Mondo
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Yeah, people are really sore about this. Totally agreed also, time to move on and get on with things.
Wait do you really believe that there isn't a huge portion of racists in the population? As if 17 million of racists in the UK is somehow impossible.
Yes, the majority of leave voters are racists motivated by racist propaganda. You arguing that a significant portion aren't is like trying to argue the same about trump voters.
"unite and work together" you say? That does sound like a fine motto that people should strive for.
Novum_Veritas
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This is just shameful.
i am so angry
TsunamiOfSwagger
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Out of curiosity, what degree is that?
EatinOlives
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The economic ramifications of this are going to be felt across countries and continents alike. Countless of people's livelihoods, both inside and outside of the UK, are going to be negatively impacted by this. All because of ill-informed"take our country back!!!1!!" propaganda.
You look like a fool writing stuff like that.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
BNP are claiming a victory. https://twitter.com/bnp/status/746219920958988288
Sad to see our British brothers and sisters abandon the EU project. As Finn I've definitely always felt like your view of the world was very similar to ours. Hopefully I will witness you guys joining the EU again during my lifetime. Either way London will still be my favorite city in the world. Time to try making some money out of this mess by buying stocks now I guess.
International business, and goddamn that was a quick reply.
Novum_Veritas
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Dude STOP.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Filthy snake.
Rug Monkey
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Angry and scared. Already got my Don't Blame Me I Voted Remain T Shirt. I'm glad some of financial implications started to hit us immediately. Might even be enough to reverse it come the next general election. (Cameron has gone back on so much hopefully he'll do the same on Article 50 and leave it to the next PM.)
The schadenfreude in my soul thrills to the image of everyone outside London having to vote for that pompous twat Boris Johnson in order to stay out. Hopefully Labour will find a dour sensible financially steady Northerner who promises not to implement Article 50.
Nigel Farage looking smug is as nauseating as Simon Cowell.
The schadenfreude in my soul thrills to the image of everyone outside London having to vote for that pompous twat Boris Johnson in order to stay out. Hopefully Labour will find a dour sensible financially steady Northerner who promises not to implement Article 50.
Nigel Farage looking smug is as nauseating as Simon Cowell.
NoPiece
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The worst thing for the EU now would be to try to force loyalty through fear. Does that sound like a healthy union?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wntX-a3jSY
It isn't doom. But it is certainly extremely painful for everybody, and it will remain so for a long time. What is worse is that it is unnecessary pain.
Yeah, let's not forget what the EU did to Greece. Who wouldn't want to be part of a union who'll do that to one of it's weaker members.
jellies_two
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Who? I doubt any company is making any decisions yet, and if they so easily do it was an unstable job and unstable company to begin with. I would be curious to know of any exact details because then it would be a story for a journalist the bbc would put them on the big screen.
Gordon Brown was great - he just couldn't do fuck all. He stepped into office with his hands tied and flopped on the deck of Blair's burning + sinking ship. They were from complete opposite ends of the spectrum.
Brown's policies would have alleviated the effects of the recession infinitely more than the Tory austerity approach. Almost every leading economist agreed and we saw Brown's approach work in other countries.
But no, people are idiots. Vote Tories in, enjoy another 6+ years of shit getting fucked
Honestly what is life
Guy is losing in Utah. Snowballs stand a better chance in hell.
Red Arremer
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Again: Of course there will be a partnership between EU and UK, but the EU has to make clear that being in the EU is more beneficial.
It has less to do with punishment and more with encouraging others, to show that being part of the EU is a good thing.
If you can get the same or just about the same benefits as being in the EU, but without any responsibilities, why be part of the EU in the first place?
Not really, the likelihood is that we won't pull out of the EU enough so they'll have that to campaign for.
We aren't going to be negotiating with businessmen but politicians. The French and German governments cannot allow their own anti-EU sentiment to rise in their own country which will happen if Britain flourishes outside the EU.
Expect any trade deal to include freedom of movement of labour.
It's happening, it'll just take 2 years to uncouple.
Does blackmailing the EU for better terms because you think you're a special snowflake sound like a healthy country?
People were giving the same level of confidence and assumed that the UK would be reasonable in its vote.
2016 is the year of the cosmic joker.
Tons of undecideds. Undecideds most of the time tend to go against the status quo. And if the economy collapses, Trump isn't the status quo.
LOL Good luck with that.
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