They're amusing stories, but such anecdotal evidence would* never be taken seriously by anyone.
*93yr old mums notwithstanding
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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*93yr old mums notwithstanding
GamerMax73
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15000000000000% APR and Joe has a hammer if you don't pay back in full by next Thursday.
AHA-Lambda
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already commented on your previous post mate, that's what.
you can have the honour of being the first person to get on my ignore list after many years of being on gaf
So your schtick is to tell people to work together and then tell them you don't give a shit about what they say? Interesting strategy, let's see how it plays out.
AHA-Lambda
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typical leave voter then.
Just for reference, the UK maintained an AAA rating by S&P all throughout the financial crisis that began in 2008 but was downgraded to an AA rating following the Brexit referendum today.
This is what I am afraid of. At the end of all this if we end up in a position that is worse or the same, I will be royally pissed considering the divisions it has has highlighted, the hate it has brought out and the potential economic and damage to the UK's prestige it may cause.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Uh oh. Sounds like Corbyn might have voted LEAVE....
https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/747496441795481600
Shame, because he's putting in amazing effort to REMAIN now.
https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/747496441795481600
Shame, because he's putting in amazing effort to REMAIN now.
He definately was, it's why the Blitzkrieg worked so well.
All of Stalin's supplies were on the border.
jamieson87
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If true, the fallout will be delicious.
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I don't want to watch, because I don't want to jinx it.
How could anyone know that? Ballots are supposed to be secret as a matter of law.
He tweeted that he voted Remain. Chances are the papers are just referring to when he refused to answer the question on his vote.
He still needs to go, but this is bullshit
Probably
We're in a post expert, post reality reality. Basically leaver reality is an eternal looping episode of it ain't half hot, mum
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-put-welsh-independence-on-agenda-leanne-wood
Leanne Wood trying to spin this into Wales needing to independent.
Hahahahaha
Leanne Wood trying to spin this into Wales needing to independent.
Hahahahaha
AHA-Lambda
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If true he's not going to survive this
paradox121
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I love the sentiment that they basically did it in the hopes of causing a bit of drama.
This whole subsection of Leave voters who seemingly voted purely to screw with the government is mind-blowing to me. I mean, I guess it worked, but how about a strongly worded letter or an incoherent jeer in the street next time.
Not to sound like some crotchety old bastard, but I do wonder if the era of reality TV and the constant demand for interactivity and votes and the like has dampened the actual implications of casting a political vote. There seems to be this huge demographic who appear to have voted purely as a middle finger, unaware that that middle finger is worth billions of pounds.
ferrasvansen
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Posted a few ages ago, Corbyn has already said he had voted Remain. There's enough blame to throw at him without resorting to gutter shit.
Kadayi
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Indeed. Was at work today talking to fellow remainers and everyone's basically was 'get on with it Cameron and invoke the article' the longer the delay the longer the negative impact. Cameron's dawdling to protect his ego is somewhat akin to Nero fiddling whilst Rome burned.
The certainty of action is required to settle the market place.
With the potential this can cause to the treasury's costs of borrowing and inflation likely to start going up, it is going to put a lot of pressure on the nation's finances.
Stumpokapow
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I am interested in what they plan to report, but do you think you've accurately summarized what's behind your link? Because it seems to me that a summary is that a journalist claims he's fairly certain Corbyn voted leave, and your summary is that Corbyn definitely voted leave, and it seems like you don't understand the conceptual slippage there.
What time are the papers usually published?
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Wales relies on EU funding.
Votes Leave.
Realises they are now stuck with England, getting nothing.
Now want independence so they can join EU again.
It ain't happening Wales. I'm so sorry.
I agree. I don't like him right now and wish he would go, but since his vote is private, if he said he voted remain, he voted remain as far as I'm concerned.
I don't see what evidence they could produce to the contrary without doing something illegal.
At one point, it becomes easier to kick England minus London out of the United Kingdom.
Indeed, I feel like media idiocy is partly responsible for this mess too. We have a media that is more obsessed with quick soundbites and shock headlines than thought provoking articles, journalists that fail to ask tough questions to those that claim they have the answers. And this is no longer exclusive the the Murdoch tabloids even the BBC is guilty of playing to the lowest common denominator, it's a sad state.
I have sympathy for Scotland and N.Ireland being dragged into this mess, but Wales deserves to be in this mess with us. Wales is like a person with Stockholm syndrome when it comes to England.
AHA-Lambda
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It would be illegal but definitely possible to find out.
it'll be this evening, bout 10 or so?
Absolutely not. What we're seeing now is the calm before the storm - triggering the two year countdown on a50 before we're ready with a leadership, plan and team, would be suicide.
Yeah. I know that people like to say rating services don't matter but that's not true. They are dangerous, don't get me wrong, but they do matter. Money will be more expensive from now on and that's never a good thing.
JoeyJungle
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The downgrade is largely due to the higher risk currently in the UK economy. It's also unclear what the size of the UK economy will look like in the future. It will probably shrink, some economists say 3-5% in the short term before bouncing back, others say up to 10% and it may remain there for years. The downgrade will probably last at least until UK officially separates from the EU if not longer, until the effect from leaving the EU becomes more concrete instead of speculation.
GamerMax73
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Do you remember the French invasion of 1066? Well actually it's time to right that wrong and take England back to it's historical roots.
Actually, come to think of it, maybe Alfred wasn't so great either. I bagsy King of Mercia, who wants Wessex?
Nope - activating article 50 will make stuff even worse. Activating article 50 means there's no going back, and we still won't have a clue what's going on. Right now the city is putting immense pressure on the Tories to not take us out.
Activating article 50 isn't like pulling a plaster off - it's like shooting your arm off and hoping it stops bleeding before you die. It actually introduces more uncertainty into the mix.
If your friends voted remain, the best bet now for that to happen is we keep putting it off. Every day we put it off makes it harder to fire the gun.
I think we all understand UK newspaper headlines. If they play it subtle I'l be amazed. This is part of a concerted effort to remove him from office, and they've decided that they need to poison the well before putting up a formal challenge.
The BBC's formalised lack of bias (hold the laughter) isn't helpful in situations where campaigns are going off the deep end. You had BBC reporters stating that they knew that the £350m stuff was an utter fabrication but they can't report that, they can only couch in "leave say this, remain say that" where a number of them felt when a lie is so blatantly and demonstrably untrue, they should be able to approach the reporting of that far more factually rather than the two sides nonsense.
England gonna try to get independent and stay in if this continues
Everyone trying to dump each other in the UK
This will make for very uninspired first pages across Europe. I expect "Brexit 2" over and over again.
Jesus, I can't believe I couldn't think of what the weekend's events reminded me of. That's it. Cameron's dawdling and cracking dumb jokes in parliament. Johnson fucking off to play cricket, etc.
It will be very dangerous because the UK has been able to rely on very cheap debt for some time now.
lazer_bean
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Prime Minister said: "Icelands interests are better served outside the European Union " when they withdrew their application.
I mean, to be clear, the downgrade is not necessarily because of anything about the UK economy, any more than the downgrade of US treasury bonds had anything to do with the US economy.
US treasury bonds got downgraded because our government demonstrated it was dysfunctional to the point that, while there was zero chance we would not be able to pay, there was some chance we would ACCIDENTALLY not pay our debts. (And I guess a small but notable faction that wanted to deliberately not pay our debts, including Donald Trump.)
I assume the UK's downgrade is, similarly, mostly an attempt to reflect that if the UK will vote to destroy its own economy and fuck up everything then maybe lending them money is a little bit more dangerous than expected just on the principle that the UK is a shambles.
US treasury bonds got downgraded because our government demonstrated it was dysfunctional to the point that, while there was zero chance we would not be able to pay, there was some chance we would ACCIDENTALLY not pay our debts. (And I guess a small but notable faction that wanted to deliberately not pay our debts, including Donald Trump.)
I assume the UK's downgrade is, similarly, mostly an attempt to reflect that if the UK will vote to destroy its own economy and fuck up everything then maybe lending them money is a little bit more dangerous than expected just on the principle that the UK is a shambles.
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