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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Amazing how you cannot see this as a way to placate the base before a leadership contest.
ferrasvansen
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BossDarkseid
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg
should be the Sky link.
also Juncker is a terrible speaker, but it was worth it for the Farage roast
should be the Sky link.
also Juncker is a terrible speaker, but it was worth it for the Farage roast
Not House of Commons. EU Parliament Speaker
I feel like this is the NeoGAF equivalent of a senior politican trying to soothe volatile markets.
Lol I figured it was Bercow at Parliament when I heard a Speaker roasted someone.
What's the timestamp?
JonathanEx
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Not Bercow sadly. But on that note, someone needs to make a supercut of his best OOR DURRRRRRRSSSS, ORRRDUHHHHHHH
Heckler456
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You sure? I think that's farage sitting to the right of the speaker, and the speaker doesn't seem to be addressing him, but rather someone further away.
anonymous_abc
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Not sure you can judge that from live interpretation.
He's speaking in French and German. I would not be surprised if he switches to English before he's done.
RedSparrows
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I fear people expecting a grand /facepalm moment followed by a mea culpa are in for a long wait. The problem is, it's either
a) never MY fault, 'guv. I am a voter, but don't expect me to be responsible for anything
b) it'll still be the fault of the 'elites'
c) the EU is to blame somehow
d) a price worth paying
e) delayed reaction, events apportioned off into small chunks, each used and exploited for relevant political gain: the bigger historical threads are blurred and tangled as per politics
or all 5
This never gets old: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E2BTDIr8i4
He needs to have his own talk show or something when he retires. Fucking legend.
Makes sense, why waste time with negotiations before the Brits have even made up their mind? Could be a bunch of negotiations being made for nothing if they decide to stay in the end.
BossDarkseid
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Yeah, fair point.
And not sure on the timestamp but I guess about 6 minutes or so ago?
seeing how much they struggle to get laws through parliament in time as it is, let alone the thousands that now need re-doing...
as one lawyer put it, you can not have no laws in place as companies will abuse it in a heartbeat, so just carrying them over was/is the only way forward to start with
Holy shit
Good to see UKIP still being openly mocked (they were on question time as well despite a split audience), I'm worried about how much support they will get next election.
Darkstorne
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I assumed he was looking "over" him. You can see Farage getting animated and saying "quite right!" before the camera cuts back to the speaker and the single applause starts. Even if it was towards someone else, it was clearly aimed at someone leading the Leave campaign. He says as much.
Of course I can, I am not that stupid, we are now in a leadership election, so bullshit meters are in full mode again....
all the anger from the lies (from BOTH sides) have done nothing, and we will get a thousand fake promises from politicians to both leave and remain
Oh no, I agree with that. I'm just saying the hurt will be felt, even if they don't blame the actual reason.
anonymous_abc
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Shocking.
It's more that the EU doesn't want to be used as an excuse. Having pre-article 50 negotiations then going "Oh man, the EU are really gonna fuck us if we leave. I guess we shouldn't" allows MPs to try and shift the blame to the EU if they decide to ignore the electorate and keep us in the EU.
Forcing the MPs to have to accept the choice and the blame themselves will only help further instability grow which scares the fuck out of anyone else who wants to leave the EU.
Pankratous
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What are the '4' free movements?
RedSparrows
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I could be a political analyst at a think-tank, I called it 100%. Hot damn I'm good.
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Palculator
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Merkel's speech mostly reiterates things she has already said, but she added that while relations with the UK will be kept close, they'll be at a disadvantage compared to member states and that it won't be able to cherry-pick privileges like getting access to the single market without adopting the four basic freedoms of the internal market. She also once again acknowledged that the UK is not ready to invoke article 50 due to its internal crisis, but insisted that there will be no negotiations without it and that they better get on with it, for their own good.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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So much for German twisting everyone's arm to sell us cars.
Darkstorne
Member
Exactly what every sane person was expecting. The only silver lining I'm taking from this mess is the thought of Leave voter's tears when they complain and make it abundantly clear that immigration really was the main reason they were voting out.
PJV3
Member
Nah, I'm gonna listen to the clown who got sacked twice for lying.
Capital, services, goods and people.
You're really going to have to back up that "both sides" if you expect it to be taken seriously
Capital, services, goods, and people (incl. labour).
Edit: Manfred Weber giving UKIP a smackdown right now in the Parliament.
Heckler456
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Goods, services, capital, and persons.
Darkstorne
Member
Yep, a forward-thinking and modern approach to a more global humanity. Whereas a lot of Leave voters want to go back to the 1800s when "Britain was for the British". Whatever that even means.
anonymous_abc
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nvm
EdwardTeach
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Farage is not an mp, he is an mep.
Does anyone honestly think our government will be able to out negotiate Mrs Merkel?
He's also a complete c***
It's a driver for the Germans pardon the pun, but they can live trading with the UK under the GATT tariffs they use for US and China (and that's the worse case)*
An MCP, if you will.
Well you see, the EU exports 46% of their services to us. We have the upper ground in the negotiations!
Boris Johnson is relying on the element of surprise. Merkel will never take him for a serious negotiator, untill it's too late! HAHA!
anonymous_abc
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Britain was great before the EU and Germany doesn't even have a Great in it's name.
So there is that.
"You know Ms. Merkel, we've been carrying on with these negotiations for quite some time now and I can't help but think I'm losing... But how about some particularly dense and glutinous cake?"
jufonuk
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I think it will be the Norway deal Merkel knows we don't want to really leave it was a huge fuck up . They will take some banks keep it functioning trade with us we can pursue others but we will never be allowed to influence them again. We will pay for privilege. EU citizens and Uk can move around . Special favour for Scotland and London.
Either way my future is not in this country
Either way my future is not in this country
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