Do you realise that that money is literally fuck all, even if you use the lie figure vs the NHS budget. Doesn't matter anyway since the GDP contraction will more than wipe off the perceived 'savings' through lower tax receipts, while government spending will go up due to more unemployed people.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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Do you realise that that money is literally fuck all, even if you use the lie figure vs the NHS budget. Doesn't matter anyway since the GDP contraction will more than wipe off the perceived 'savings' through lower tax receipts, while government spending will go up due to more unemployed people.
Ding ding ding ding ding we have a winner
From what I understand if we want to remain part of the EU free market you also have to abide by the freedom of movement. If we stay a part of that market, the only thing we've done is give up our voting rights in the EU.
Agreed, he's too weak and needs to go.
Goldfishking
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Tourist economy could take a hit due to it being harder to travel and the poor GDP to EURO exchange rate.
Also there is Gibraltar to consider
ExtremePopcorn
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If you want any kind of trade or financial interaction with the EU you certainly will be restricted by their regulations.
Less British tourist money. Volatile EU economy.
But you get Gibraltar I guess so overall a win?
Is gonna be funny when/if Scotland ups and leaves. It's not a Brexit when Britain doesn't even exist.
The PLP can fuck right off.
Corbyn was never fucked by Europe, they made him compromise and support remain.
Turns out the majority of labour voters actually agree with him
This will influence the elections, that's for sure.
That's the elephant in the room. The Leave campaign kept talking about making 'better deals' but any deal on the level of our current one would have free movement as a condition, 100% guaranteed. We will be treated the same way as Norway, they will not give us special treatment.
Royal_Phalanx
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Fuck. Lol if the government turns around and says "lollol this was only advisory, we're staying anyway"
OuterLimits
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Remain lost by a million or so votes though correct? I doubt over a million 16-17 year olds would have shown up to change the outcome anyway. Plus, some of them would have obviously voted Leave.
Also it seems the vote was much closer with people in their 30s and 40s compared to the 18-24 group. Once you got over 50, Leave has the advantage. Over 60 a big advantage. People in their 50s aren't going to croak in large numbers soon, so of course they will be living with the decision they made for a number of years.
agreed
sorry
just a bubble
thanks Thatcher
BibiMaghoo
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Can't wait for the tory panto villains to commit to all the things they wanted but couldn't, like Teresa May abolishing the human rights act and Jeremy Hunt selling the NHS. Fucking ashamed of my country today.
Tin foil hat time:
Tories wanted to reduce workers rights, be more like the US labour market where it is easy to hire and fire. Couldn't do it because of EU workers protections
Cameron announces referendum.
Referendum voted leave with the hopes to get more control back, and less immigration
Tories know they need access to the single market. They also know the EU is unlikely to allow access without similar rules to what Norway has - which means freedom of movement of population. Basically what most leave voters don't want.
Tories sign agreement because it's our only option.
They are then free to fuck over workers rights like they wanted to, so the poor and unwashed masses that voted to leave get less protection from business and still no real controls over migration
Economic consensus is yes.
So, Scandinavia, shall we open the talks about letting Scotland be part of us incase they split from the UK and perhaps would like to?
I mean, we share a lot of common grounds in the world. We have the same geographical latitude. They got shittons of mountains and strange stories about mythological beasts living in them. We both wear funny clothing on our holidays. We both used to go to the English to give them a good beating once in a while when we were bored. Whenever Hollywood decides to make a movie about Vikings or anything resembling Vikings, they use people with a Scottish accent to represent us.
Scottish are basically already part of the family.
I mean, we share a lot of common grounds in the world. We have the same geographical latitude. They got shittons of mountains and strange stories about mythological beasts living in them. We both wear funny clothing on our holidays. We both used to go to the English to give them a good beating once in a while when we were bored. Whenever Hollywood decides to make a movie about Vikings or anything resembling Vikings, they use people with a Scottish accent to represent us.
Scottish are basically already part of the family.
I'd be cool with it.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
They overturned BoatyMcBoatface, why not this?
The Stay Campain was a shitshow that started with "Do what Daddy tells you" and peaked with "YOU FUCKING LITTLE SHIT I'LL BEAT YOU UNTIL I CAN SHOVE A FUCKING SPEAK AND SPELL DOWN YOUR THROAT SO YOU WILL SAY WHAT I TELL YOU" from Osborne.
In the face of that, anything, even suicide, looked better.
Good luck dealing a trade agreement with America and China, the cons are going to be huge.
Go_Ly_Dow
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Pig fucker has already committed to it.
MrS
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It's a $20 penalty.
Because there would be riots across the country
Frankly I don't think a move like this would be as controversial as some may think. It seems a LOT of leave voters either voted ironically or regret voting leave now they've seen the true colours of what the Brexiters wanted.
*After Scotland leaves*
UK: "Well, we still have Wales and Northern Ireland right guys?"
Wales: "Uhh sure I guess."
N. Ireland: "About that... I've been seen the Republic again and I'm moving in with her."
The_Hitcher89
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Guess the 2 main issues are first that voting is seen as an ingrained right rather than a duty over here, and that it encourages people who don't know anything about what they're voting for to vote anyway, which would surely skew the numbers somewhat. Even if they don't have to make a legitimate choice.
nephilimdj
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I think the point is it was open new trade routes, EU is heavily blocked from South America due to USA.
Engxit
Yeah, the bigger question is 'will Boris go on TV and apologise like he said he would?'
My money is on no.
Scexit?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I suggest you take some basic economics classes.
geordiemp
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You think after the initial Knee jerk the Euro will be ultra strong ? Really ?
You have all southern EU with their bowls out, and only Germany with cash in pocket. French will probably strike due to EU budget cuts and because the sun is out. Business as usual.
Ftse down -4.6 %, CAC - 7.4 %, Dax - 6.09 % today 10.58
So how do you read that being so smart as you are ? Do you think the rush to gold will continue, who will recover first, FTSE or CAC or DAX ?
Uk will be fine, EU is in a bigger mess, always was.
PS Ad hominem is so pathetic. Discuss the points, not the person, it makes YOU look stupid.
Any idea how bad and when? :S
My friend's mother receieved a ballot from a Union company to force employees to dramatically raise work shifts on the same rate.
A lot of countries have compulsory voting. Greece and Belgium do in Europe off the top of my head.
nelsonroyale
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Just like Miliband was, just like Brown was...face it, one of the major problems of the Labour party is mixed messages and uncertain support. Who are they fucking representing these days? I get Corbyn's positions, I don't fucking understand where the party stands. Putting most of the blame on Corbyn is highly symptomatic of the current Labour bankruptcy. Blair was a cynical bastard and Labour have since sought a populist approach which doesn't offer much meaningful alternative to many of the Conservatives. It is just many people's political vision has narowed so significantly.
Fifteen years, actually.
dealer-
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Yep, a solid legal bulwark defending the right to healthcare, privacy of data and workers rights was the main reason why I voted to remain. Now I'm worried.
Goldfishking
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What? I never said that.
Sleight of Jam
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Wow. I would outright dishone my family if they did that.
Royal_Phalanx
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Australian voting system isn't perfect though. They've got alternative vote which is worse than PR
Majukun
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i agree,damn
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