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If this is so bad for everyone, why the fuck did people vote like this?
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If this is so bad for everyone, why the fuck did people vote like this?
Michael Fuchs, a vice-chairman of Angela Merkel's CDU party, has warned that the UK "is going to suffer" after voting to leave the European Union.
He told The World at One's Martha Kearney "there is no such thing as a free lunch", regarding access to the single market.
last time that happened we magically found the money to fix it. funny that.
They voted for this mess. It's not even debatable that they know fuck all at this point. But of course I should trust in their 'wisdom' considering most of them will be dead while carry on their shit storm based in ignorance.
I simply cannot fathom the bigotry in this thread. People looking down on others who they deem less worthy of a vote. This democracy we hold so highly is wonderful.
My main problem with the arguments is the lack of understanding of how the financial markets and exchange market works. Anyone that expected Britain to leave expected something like this happening, it was not out of the realm of possibilities it was just tied down to the result of the referendum and the reading of the market movements of the last few weeks.
I wonder what they will say once the pound bounces back to 1.4 or over or the stock markets gets on another buying rally.
Online in various fact check sites it says uk gets back about half its fees in rebates so strictly money wise (not intangibles) it's a nett payer and it's a lot of money too.
I simply cannot fathom the bigotry in this thread. People looking down on others who they deem less worthy of a vote. This democracy we hold so highly is wonderful.
I'm sad you're leaving my UK bro, hope you won't suffer too much from this, now I'm sure Far-right nationalist movements across Europe are expected to capitalize on it...
Cornwall is poor and receives a lot of money from the EU because of it.
Cornwall voted overwhelmingly in favour of leave.
Cornwall County Council are now asking Westminster to guarantee that they would get the same amount of money from Westminster that they would have gotten from the EU by staying.
I am not so naive that I don't know that things are going to be very tough for a few years while we stabilise our economy and set up deals. I was laughing at the naivety of the guy thinking they're gonna get the same deal they had straight off the bat. That ok with you?I'm confused on your position here. They voted Leave and want things to improve, didn't you do the same?
At least we getting dank memes out of it. Right? RIGHT?
This is exactly what should happen. You want free trade? Single market comes with freedom of movement.You want market access? Now you will pay just as much to the EU than before without having any say in the regulations. Good job!
(Most likely because about 55% of trade goods and services go to the EU)
They might need to look again at the Lisbon Treaty, as they're very much wrong.
Article 50
1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.
2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.
3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.
A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.
1.4 please no.
http://www.chartoasis.com/forex/1/gbp_eur/5_years.html
1.3 is high enough, look at past 5 years. Pound has already recovered, it should not of been close to 1.5 anyway.
When do we start the looting?
I need a 20 kilo bag of basmati.
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This is like that but with an added a ivemadehugemistake.gif at the end.
I said ignoring intangibles and that is where leave vs stay would differ on the true value of those. You start bringing those in and it's a never ending tangle of positives and negatives.That's just fees though - what about asset return and also workforce return?
Totally don't blame them for asking this. This is common sense from the council. Plus it's 57-43, no where near clear cut.
Cornwall voted 57-43 to leave
Not happening. UK is still in NATO.if there is gonna be a war in europe in my lifetime, its on you UK.
I have many friends in the London banking sector, and while they all were told before the referendum they'd definitely leave for Frankfurt and other locations, their tone is very different today. Today they are 'believing in London and exploring ways to stay'.
At least, the four big banks I know.
So it's not possible for an intelligent and rational individual to vote leave?
Is that what you're implying?
If you can accept the premise that stupid and uneducated people are capable of making stupid and uneducated choices, then you're one step closer to understanding some people's outrage when democracy creates an adverse outcome.I simply cannot fathom the bigotry in this thread. People looking down on others who they deem less worthy of a vote. This democracy we hold so highly is wonderful.
I mean I kind of see two expanations, neither of which really fill me with excitement about our prospects:How can people possibly be this stupid? It blows my mind. Literally nothing good will come out of the Brexit decision.
Fucking moron
I am trying to avoid any discussion of this with my folks. Better to be ignorant of how they voted than to be massively disappointed in them if they voted leave
Totally don't blame them for asking this. This is common sense from the council. Plus it's 57-43, no where near clear cut.
Wales and other areas need to be doing the same.
Not happening. UK is still in NATO.
If you are a Briton you are no longer a European citizen. Think about this.
If you are a Briton you are no longer a European citizen. Think about this.
'It's gotta be better than what is now'.
And therein, ladies and gentlemen, is the nub of the matter. She thinks everything is fucked, and lies are fine as long as we get out of it.
Goodo. Keep on trucking.
FFS.