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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt |OT2| Wanted to find Ciri, but everything Gwent wrong

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valkyre

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Man I absolutely love this game, but god damn its fashion is (mostly) shit...

Most relic armor sets make Geralt look more like a clown/dancer rather than a fighter/witcher. Its absolutely hideous.

At least some of the witcher school sets look nice, but damn this game has some ugly armor...
 
I'm disappointed I left for Skellige as late as I did (17). That quest to get there is incredibly misleading branded as a lv 16 quest. I get there to discover a much lower level Novigrad quest has cancelled out a quest (Flesh for Sale) I could have done had I left for the islands much earlier. I really hope there isn't many others you can screw your self out of.

Yeah, it's recommended to get to Skellige at level 13.
You can always go back to Velen/Novigrad after you're done with some level 13-15 quests in Skellige.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I think in general the game has an abundance of level 10 - 20 quests that you maybe cannot uniformly capitalise on for XP. In the sense that if you intend to do all of them you'll inevitably over level. Which is fine, but the way act one is designed skewers most exposure to those quests in Velen over Skellige. The story probably should have sent you to Skellige a bit earlier. The current structure kinda emphasises Velen -> Novigrad -> Skellige, but something more like Velen -> Skellige -> Novigrad might have done a better job of introducing and pacing the two landmasses, given Novigrad is just a part of Velen anyway.
 
I'm disappointed I left for Skellige as late as I did (17). That quest to get there is incredibly misleading branded as a lv 16 quest. I get there to discover a much lower level Novigrad quest has cancelled out a quest (Flesh for Sale) I could have done had I left for the islands much earlier. I really hope there isn't many others you can screw your self out of.

Oh really? I'm level 22 and am about to go to Skellige for the first time tonight, lol. Been clearing out Novigrad and Velen. This game definitely has some balancing and directing issues.
 

aku:jiki

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Oh really? I'm level 22 and am about to go to Skellige for the first time tonight, lol. Been clearing out Novigrad and Velen. This game definitely has some balancing and directing issues.
I think the actual problem is the fact that the game flat-out tells you the level number for a quest (as opposed to keeping the number hidden and only showing the skull symbol for really difficult ones) and uses the outleveled/greyed-out quest system. Both of those things are in the player's face and feels kind of like a punishment for not finding quests and events in the "correct" order.

Discarding these things and keeping everything else the same would make people a lot happier, I think. It's not the fact that you only get 5XP for this otherwise interesting and fun quest, it's the fact that the game rubs those 5XP in your face in multiple ways.
 

skyhaven

Neo Member
Oh really? I'm level 22 and am about to go to Skellige for the first time tonight, lol. Been clearing out Novigrad and Velen. This game definitely has some balancing and directing issues.

It really doesn't. They just don't want people who ignore sidequest to get handicapped when they tackle the main campaign. That's why they tried to backpedal with the sidequests EXP rewards with the barely 100-200EXP per completion while showering main quest stages with 500EXP even by just talking to to advance the quest.
 
Last thing I did yesterday before going to sleep was the A Matter of Life and Death quest.
Then I dreamt with Triss. It was good. Waking up was the biggest disappointment ever though.
 

Sblargh

Banned
Is there any point really in this game being open world other than having a dozen sidequests? I'm doing virtually no exploration, I'm just following the traced dots on the minimap a thousand times and occasionally stopping at question marks to see what's up.

There's no... I don't know, sense of wonder at discovering new and exotic locations or whatever like when playing Elder Scrolls or Fallout. There's no incentive, either on loot or just experience and immersion, to just wander around.

The things that makes Witcher a fun game - the writing, the combat, the unique setting - are all there and I feel that all the traveling around is just distracting me from that. I enjoyed Witcher 2's tighter pace and more straightforward level design.

I feel like there's a trend on making these huge maps, dumping icons all over them and, well, I don't think I like it.
 
I don't get it, in the Quest with Yen on Skellige,
where you visit the Garden with the Werewolf, Yennefer drains the whole Power from the Place just to speak to the dead Man, why can't I just use my Laterne which Kiera Metz gave me?
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I don't get it, in the Quest with Yen on Skellige,
where you visit the Garden with the Werewolf, Yennefer drains the whole Power from the Place just to speak to the dead Man, why can't I just use my Laterne which Kiera Metz gave me?

The lantern only works in places of haunting where spirits linger and doesn't grant you the power to communicate with them, only "see" the haunting. Yen had to ask deadboy questions.
 

Pikma

Banned
So I started dumping all of my swords and armors I didn't need inside of a building in Oxenfurt just so I wouldn't forget the exact spot and today decided I needed something from it. I arrive, enter the building and SURPRISE EVERYTHING'S GONE

YAY....
 

skyhaven

Neo Member
I don't get it, in the Quest with Yen on Skellige,
where you visit the Garden with the Werewolf, Yennefer drains the whole Power from the Place just to speak to the dead Man, why can't I just use my Laterne which Kiera Metz gave me?

Plot enforced character development?
Or maybe the man wasn't under the same curse as the dudes in the tower of mice?
 
I think in general the game has an abundance of level 10 - 20 quests that you maybe cannot uniformly capitalise on for XP. In the sense that if you intend to do all of them you'll inevitably over level. Which is fine, but the way act one is designed skewers most exposure to those quests in Velen over Skellige. The story probably should have sent you to Skellige a bit earlier. The current structure kinda emphasises Velen -> Novigrad -> Skellige, but something more like Velen -> Skellige -> Novigrad might have done a better job of introducing and pacing the two landmasses, given Novigrad is just a part of Velen anyway.

The problem is, the main story quest
regarding Ciri asks Geralt to investigate her whereabouts in both Velen and Novigrad. Both branch ended up suggesting Geralt to go to Skellige. So if you're a completionist and doing both main story branch simultaneously, you'll ended up finishing Velen and Novigrad before going to Skellige, and you'll be already over-leveled.
It's the game balancing issue.
 

uniform

Member
Been clearing out Novigrad and Velen. This game definitely has some balancing and directing issues.

Yup. Giving way too much XP aside, when the quest to just get there has a recommended level of 16, I'm going to take that as a warning that lower than that could lead to frustration. Turns out it's the opposite. There's now a quest I can no longer do in Skellige because I started a chain in Velen. I have not really explored Skellige much, so I'm now wondering how much content I've over leveled, or any other quests I've locked myself out of.

I suppose being over leveled is tough to avoid for a completionist, but when the game screws you out of content based on a recommended level, that can be frustrating. Oh well, I'm probably making a mountain out of a molehill here.
 

Kalamoj

Member
I set that in motion within seconds of walking in lol.
Witch Hunter slapped Triss and I was all, "You know what? I really don't care if literally every other person in this building dies. So fuck it."

LET THE MASSACRE BEGIN

I was confident the sorceress can take a hit or two. So let the WHs do their work.
I think it was one of the weaker quests, no matter what you burn the place down, no third option.
 

Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
Anyone thinking Fists of Fury isn't worth doing, it pays off in the end. There's a cool level 30 quest on the Island the last Skellige fight is on as well.
 
Yup. Giving way too much XP aside, when the quest to just get there has a recommended level of 16, I'm going to take that as a warning that lower than that could lead to frustration. Turns out it's the opposite. There's now a quest I can no longer do in Skellige because I started a chain in Velen. I have not really explored Skellige much, so I'm now wondering how much content I've over leveled, or any other quests I've locked myself out of.

I suppose being over leveled is tough to avoid for a completionist, but when the game screws you out of content based on a recommended level, that can be frustrating. Oh well, I'm probably making a mountain out of a molehill here.

Yeah, it's a shame to get overleveled, but I've just been upping the difficulty which balances the difficulty out a little, at least, in that respect. Only getting 5XP for completing a quest is fine by me. The only problem now is that I'm running out of difficulties to increase too, lol. I wish I would've picked the hardest difficulty from the start. Ah well.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Yup. Giving way too much XP aside, when the quest to just get there has a recommended level of 16, I'm going to take that as a warning that lower than that could lead to frustration. Turns out it's the opposite. There's now a quest I can no longer do in Skellige because I started a chain in Velen. I have not really explored Skellige much, so I'm now wondering how much content I've over leveled, or any other quests I've locked myself out of.

I suppose being over leveled is tough to avoid for a completionist, but when the game screws you out of content based on a recommended level, that can be frustrating. Oh well, I'm probably making a mountain out of a molehill here.

Wait, you're actually blocked from doing something? What's that?

I did fall into the same trap though. Was way too powerful when I went to Skellige and everything has basically been a breeze despite being on Blood and Broken Bones.

Anyone thinking Fists of Fury isn't worth doing, it pays off in the end. There's a cool level 30 quest on the Island the last Skellige fight is on as well.

Yeah, that ending surprised me.

Though this hit another weird leveling thing. That final Fists of Fury quest is super high level(~30), but it goes into another quest afterwards that is <20.
 

daninthemix

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So Geralt only has the 3 hairstyles, right? I tried the long hair and I don't like it. Hairworks is making it clip through his armour. To make matters worse, I can't find the barber again as he's not on the map in Novigrad.
 

tbd

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There isn't some kind of "Cave of Ordeals" in this game with tons of enemies and maybe some big ones, I guess? I found that level 48 griffin on a northwestern island in Skellige but that's it so far.

So far I'm just taking on some crazy level soldiers and Witch Hunters in Novigrad whenever I want some challenge while being overleveled. It's fun. Especially with that one heavy bonus attack that lets you pierce through enemy guard. Not that satisfying, though. Mostly because you can't even really kill those pricks.


I really hope we see
Ciri
again in one of those upcoming DLCs, btw. Like an actual epilogue.
 

uniform

Member
Wait, you're actually blocked from doing something? What's that?

There's a Velen quest titled Following the Thread
Lambert's quest
. If you're on that quest you just locked yourself out of a Skellige quest titled Flesh for Sale. This can be avoided by discovering a village in Skellige prior to starting Following the Thread in Velen.
 
So Geralt only has the 3 hairstyles, right? I tried the long hair and I don't like it. Hairworks is making it clip through his armour. To make matters worse, I can't find the barber again as he's not on the map in Novigrad.

There are 2 barbers in Novigrad.
You can also find one in Oxenfurt.
 
I got a foot I can't walk with, a week off work, and a copy of the Witcher 3. All I'm waiting for is the update to finish and I'm going in.

Also I was shocked by the thank you card that comes in the standard copy. Such a nice thing.
 

d3vnull

Member
What runes do you guys put in your swords?

Also, did you
kill the Sylvan in the greedy god quest? I wanted to, but my game crashed every time he started blasting fire, so I let him live. lol.
 
There's a Velen quest titled Following the Thread
Lambert's quest
. If you're on that quest you just locked yourself out of a Skellige quest titled Flesh for Sale. This can be avoided by discovering a village in Skellige prior to starting Following the Thread in Velen.
I'm level 18 and only had two very quick trips to Skellige (to finish parts of Novigrad quests), so I guess I've missed out on Flesh for Sale as well. I've just been trying to finish all of the quests available to me that are 4 or 5 levels below me before they go grey (to maximize XP), and that's why I'm still in Novigrad. The quest progression seems to be off, or maybe it's just designed for Deathmarch (which I'm not playing on, and which I think gives you less XP for everything).

So Geralt only has the 3 hairstyles, right? I tried the long hair and I don't like it. Hairworks is making it clip through his armour. To make matters worse, I can't find the barber again as he's not on the map in Novigrad.
If you downloaded the free DLC there's more, maybe 5 or 6 haircuts and then a few more beard styles.

One thing that annoys me is how not all merchants show up on the city maps, even if they're currently there and you've visited them before. So needlessly annoying from a game design point of view.
 
What runes do you guys put in your swords?

Also, did you
kill the Sylvan in the greedy god quest? I wanted to, but my game crashed every time he started blasting fire, so I let him live. lol.

I put all stun in my steel sword and burn/poison/bleed in my silver sword. Never managed to get all 3 working at once though. Bleed and poison can do some pretty crazy damage

For that quest
I told it to make do with their crappy offerings. Didn't seem so bad. How he came to worshiped was pretty funny.
 

aku:jiki

Member
What runes do you guys put in your swords?
If the sword already has a decently high number in one stat, I'll try to augment it. Like I found a sword with 20% burning that I could turn into 40% burning with stones.

Otherwise I'll just slap on the +attack (silver), +quen (armor), +piercing (steel) if the sword doesn't have something to build on. Admittedly, I haven't really looked into what these various things are and if perhaps +10% bleeding is actually overall better than +150 armor piercing so I guess ihavenoideawhatimdoing.jpg

Also, did you
kill the Sylvan in the greedy god quest? I wanted to, but my game crashed every time he started blasting fire, so I let him live. lol.
I cheated on that quest because I felt like it didn't give you enough information and the best outcome is apparently to
let the "god" live but tell him to stop being a dick, while not telling the villagers that there's a fat monster hiding in the basement.
.
 

Majukun

Member
where can i find the various maps for the witcher gears?
i used to find them sold by blacksmiths but it has been a while since i saw the last one...
 
Though this hit another weird leveling thing. That final Fists of Fury quest is super high level(~30), but it goes into another quest afterwards that is <20.

That seems to happen alot where quests in a chain will be lower level than the quest that preceeds it, even in the main questlines and I really can't think of a reason for it.
 

d3vnull

Member
I put all stun in my steel sword and burn/poison/bleed in my silver sword. Never managed to get all 3 working at once though. Bleed and poison can do some pretty crazy damage

Trying to find out if it makes more sense to put 3 of a kind into your sword or 3 different ones. 40% chance as aku suggested sounds great though.

I haven't really looked into what these various things are and if perhaps +10% bleeding is actually overall better than +150 armor piercing so I guess ihavenoideawhatimdoing.jpg

That's exactly my problem... can't find a guide as to which rune might give the best dps overall.
 
That seems to happen alot where quests in a chain will be lower level than the quest that preceeds it, even in the main questlines and I really can't think of a reason for it.

Yeah, doesn't make sense.
Also, sometimes there's a high requirement for no apparent reason and others it feels like a higher level would've been more appropriate.
 

Nordicus

Member
kind of dumb only being able to equip 12 abilities.
I disagree. Having limited abilities means that later on progression is horizontal. It also allows the individual abilities to be more powerful and lets them have more synergy with each other without completely breaking the game.

Though the balance is now broken through other means, so CDprojekt has things to iron out before the mix&match ability selection can really show where that design approach shines.

Guild Wars 1 and 2 had a sort of similar system going on although with active abilities.
Edit: Also Dragon's Dogma!
 

zonezeus

Member
Finally finished, got the bittersweet
Empress Ciri
ending which I think fits the tone of the game perfectly, although I would be fine with
Witcher Ciri
as well. It was an amazing 125 hrs ride, can't wait for NG+ and expansions.
 

Renae

Member
Hello, I want to play a RP Geralt, and (Little Red quest spoiler)
I don't know if the book Geralt would let her kill Bertram
?
 

kriskrosbbk

Member
Guys I am a bit bothered with my inventory .It is just a mess.As I am currently trying to organise things want to ask you ,once I have the ingredients to make a potion/deconcoction/oil and have made it and it's in my inventory, are there any benefits to keeping those particular ingredients in my inventory since the item would just 'restock' itself using Alcohol when I meditate? That'd be a way of keeping carry-weight down and inventory relatively clean.
 

Flipyap

Member
Hello, I want to play a RP Geralt, and (Little Red quest spoiler)
I don't know if the book Geralt would let her kill Bertram
?
It's a good Witcher sidequest, so it doesn't have a clear correct choice. Both solutions are supposed to make you wonder if you did the right thing, and that's how it usually went for Sapkowski's Geralt.
 
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