trick of that area. Never had any huge problems differentiating the different things and th
e elevator
puzzle was just cool and out-of-the-box, and I was "fuck yeah"-ing when I solved it first try lol..
Dunno, I really just liked the look and puzzle style of it all
edit: Also, don't use a guide. I did it for one late-game puzzle and felt horrible, and was/am tempted for the remainder of it all for puzzles that I eventually solved by myself anyway.. Not worth it.
trick of that area. Never had any huge problems differentiating the different things and th
e elevator
puzzle was just cool and out-of-the-box, and I was "fuck yeah"-ing when I solved it first try lol..
Dunno, I really just liked the look and puzzle style of it all
Well, I beat The Challenge! That was quite difficult. I didn't like the "running around a maze like an idiot looking for two triangle puzzles", which tends to take up anywhere from 30 seconds or 3 minutes, depending on the run, and necessitated numerous restarts. But man, it's not easy. You have to basically nail every puzzle, and even then, I only finished the final column puzzle with seconds to spare.
I'll finish out the last remaining puzzles in the underground area, but that's it. I rather enjoyed the GDC video...the only element of the entire game's narrative that I didn't roll my eyes at. It's clear it influenced Mr. Blow quite a bit.
Finally, uh...people kept talking about this "major spoiler" when reviews came out. I don't believe I ever ran into anything that could possibly qualify. What the hell were they all talking about?
That's one of around a dozen puzzles/bits in the game that I think are just crap. like, 98% of the game is fantastic, but there are definitely some weak parts.
Epilepsy
Color blindness
Motion sickness
A special prize against anyone that has difficulty moving quickly
This is NOT a puzzle game for anyone with any physical disability or condition.
I think the beta build has made some improvements RE: motion sickness. The game can still be enjoyed without completing every area. You might as well people who are
+ puzzles: I've found one so far, the one on top of the mountain. That one had a switch to guide you towards it, do all + puzzles have this, or do you have to recognize patterns just by watching? I went to the pillar that activated, and saw outlines of all the shapes there. I haven't seen any other weird switches so I'm thinking you have to find the rest without help.
I just did the jungle. Breezed through it. Big relief after how much I struggled with the hedge mazes. But they could have done a lot more with it. Back at school I had to do tests where
the teacher would play a melody on the piano, and you had to write it down as sheet music. You got to know which was the first tone and then you had to figure out the rest of the melody from there. Just being able to distinguish between three different pitches is child's play by comparison. I did like how, at the end with the dots, they set it up so that you would think you just had to do them in order of size from smaller to larger until that didn't work anymore and you had to figure out that dot size was ACTUALLY related to pitch. That misdirection was pretty clever.
I would have loved for the area to have been larger and a lot more difficult at the end, but I guess if you're tone deaf the area is already tricky as it is
+ puzzles: I've found one so far, the one on top of the mountain. That one had a switch to guide you towards it, do all + puzzles have this, or do you have to recognize patterns just by watching? I went to the pillar that activated, and saw outlines of all the shapes there. I haven't seen any other weird switches so I'm thinking you have to find the rest without help.
I just did the jungle. Flied through it. Big relief after how much I struggled with the hedge mazes. But they could have done a lot more with it. Back at school I had to do tests where
the teacher would play a melody on the piano, and you had to write it down as sheet music. You got to know which was the first tone and then you had to figure out the rest of the melody from there. Just being able to distinguish between three different pitches is child's play by comparison. I did like how, at the end with the dots, they set it up so that you would think you just had to do them in order of size from smaller to larger until that didn't work anymore and you had to figure out that dot size was ACTUALLY related to pitch. That misdirection was pretty clever.
I would have loved for the area to have been larger and a lot more difficult at the end, but I guess if you're tone deaf the area is already tricky as it is
draw a continuous line with your eyes closed to visualize the music. less academic but similar results. carried me to the second from last puzzle at which point i gave up.
Hey guys, i could really use some help with these tetris puzzles. I've been banging my head against them for a while now and I guess I just don't really understand the mechanic properly. Here's a pic with the puzzle I'm at. Some hints would be appreciated. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaFR1L6WEAAiWCP.jpg
So I have a confession to make which a lot of you may judge me for, but, well screw it. I'm currently away on a 4 day break so I can't play the game, but before coming away I started to get quite frustrated with the game and I started to realise the game wasn't for me, I just don't have the patience for solving puzzles it seems. Then soon after that I spotted a few walk through videos online. I still wanted to see what the various areas of the game offered, so I played along whilst watching these videos to conquer more areas (I want the trophies damn it). It's amazing how quick you can get through an area when watching a video let me tell you!
When I get home tomorrow, I've only got two more areas to unlock and then I'll do the end game which hopefully will be straight forward enough to copy from a video again. I know a lot of you will be disgusted by this, and that I'm playing it completely the wrong way, but I spent my money on it, I want the trophies, I want to see how it ends.
So I have a confession to make which a lot of you may judge me for, but, well screw it. I'm currently away on a 4 day break so I can't play the game, but before coming away I started to get quite frustrated with the game and I started to realise the game wasn't for me, I just don't have the patience for solving puzzles it seems. Then soon after that I spotted a few walk through videos online. I still wanted to see what the various areas of the game offered, so I played along whilst watching these videos to conquer more areas (I want the trophies damn it). It's amazing how quick you can get through an area when watching a video let me tell you!
When I get home tomorrow, I've only got two more areas to unlock and then I'll do the end game which hopefully will be straight forward enough to copy from a video again. I know a lot of you will be disgusted by this, and that I'm playing it completely the wrong way, but I spent my money on it, I want the trophies, I want to see how it ends.
Not disgusted, but why not try and play and then use a video only when you can't beat it? Otherwise you're literally just paying for the trophies; you could just YouTube the ending.
I'm willing to give all of the puzzles a fair shot, but it's getting tedious taking snapshots and posting them here for hints. I'd rather just get the solutions to get past anything I feel I'm stumped by.
Ugh, I can't. These fucking bird noise puzzles and random noises going on are going to give me a migraine. I'm just looking it up and taking some Advil.
Hey guys, i could really use some help with these tetris puzzles. I've been banging my head against them for a while now and I guess I just don't really understand the mechanic properly. Here's a pic with the puzzle I'm at. Some hints would be appreciated. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaFR1L6WEAAiWCP.jpg
This series of panels and the ones behind it were some of the most satisfying to solve in my opinion. Stick with it, I had to come back a few times before I really got it.
Hints in order of detail:
1.
Try the panels behind you. It might jog your thinking.
2.
Go back and review the 10 panels by the swamp entrance write down the 'rules' as you see them
Hey guys, i could really use some help with these tetris puzzles. I've been banging my head against them for a while now and I guess I just don't really understand the mechanic properly. Here's a pic with the puzzle I'm at. Some hints would be appreciated. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaFR1L6WEAAiWCP.jpg
This series of panels and the ones behind it were some of the most satisfying to solve in my opinion. Stick with it, I had to come back a few times before I really got it.
but I'm going to work on completing the various zones first. Wish there was an easy way to see completion percentage in game, there are 600ish puzzles right?
Not disgusted, but why not try and play and then use a video only when you can't beat it? Otherwise you're literally just paying for the trophies; you could just YouTube the ending.
Actually now you mention it I did do that with the shadow tree area and the monastery. I liked those type of puzzles. It was the Marsh, desert and jungle which I really struggled with and used the walk through for them. I do realise I've ruined the experience for myself in a big way, and it's a regret I'll carry with myself for a long time, but I know if I don't do this the game will just go unplayed because I simply cannot fathom the puzzles. I knew going into this that puzzle games aren't my thing, but I felt like it was something I didn't want to miss out on.
So I have a confession to make which a lot of you may judge me for, but, well screw it. I'm currently away on a 4 day break so I can't play the game, but before coming away I started to get quite frustrated with the game and I started to realise the game wasn't for me, I just don't have the patience for solving puzzles it seems. Then soon after that I spotted a few walk through videos online. I still wanted to see what the various areas of the game offered, so I played along whilst watching these videos to conquer more areas (I want the trophies damn it). It's amazing how quick you can get through an area when watching a video let me tell you!
When I get home tomorrow, I've only got two more areas to unlock and then I'll do the end game which hopefully will be straight forward enough to copy from a video again. I know a lot of you will be disgusted by this, and that I'm playing it completely the wrong way, but I spent my money on it, I want the trophies, I want to see how it ends.
I think the beta build has made some improvements RE: motion sickness. The game can still be enjoyed without completing every area. You might as well people who are
I've played for about three hours now, got, really minor spoiler,
two light beacons shining to the center of the island
, and nearly completed two others. I,ve only found one, minor spoiler,
audiolog
that was in plain site at the first one. Are they really that hidden or am I missing a lot?
Also, color blindness is making some stuff really tough for me at times, both in terms of puzzles and navigation of the island. Certain stuff blends in too much for me.
Yes, it's a little annoying that putting together "a good run" is just a matter of getting a lucky easy maze pattern or easy symmetry puzzle.
BUT... the RNG is itself a form of puzzle. When you hit the sets of 3 color sorting puzzles, it took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out, some of them are actually unsolvable. And quickly spotting these impossible configs is part of the gauntlet.
Oh believe me, I realized quickly that some of the puzzles are unsolvable and that's why at least that one part of the gauntlet is multiple choice. But I swear there are some of the ones beforeand after that part that are also unsolvable, and then all I can do to fix it is to solve it incorrectly and go back and solve the previous one again to load up a new random puzzle, which costs valuable time through no fault of my own.
I actually had a fantastic run going one time and ended up with an unsolvable puzzle for the second triangle puzzle in the labyrinth. So frustrating.
This series of panels and the ones behind it were some of the most satisfying to solve in my opinion. Stick with it, I had to come back a few times before I really got it.
Hints in order of detail:
1.
Try the panels behind you. It might jog your thinking.
2.
Go back and review the 10 panels by the swamp entrance write down the 'rules' as you see them
Those last few puzzles can fuck right off. Who thought this is a good idea?
I don't know how "last" they actually are but if this is what the whole last section is I will use a guide and feel good about it.
"Hey, I have a great idea let's make some puzzles that are
physically hard to look at and are less about the actual puzzle and more about how much we can strain the players eyes?
I disagree strongly. The only bit I thought was genuinely beyond me were a few of the panels in the B
amboo
F
orest
, and that's more because
I'm very poor at isolating pitch
. And even those, I got eventually without using external help.
It's hard for me to articulate exactly what I mean when I say I feel it's fine, but I'm a big fan of adventure game puzzles, and I've written a great deal about my thoughts on puzzle design, cluing, structure, playing fair...
...and I don't think there's anything in The Witness that I'd regard as unfair. I think the tutorials are great at establishing themes, the rules in question are all pretty simple (indeed, I suspect one problem people may have is thinking the rules are more complicated than they are)
This may change when I venture into the postgame, I guess, but in the main game, I feel that the game's been true to its goals, and that's the best praise I can offer.
RNG fest. Sometimes, the answers to the "hard' ones are trivial (the second set of "which is solvable?", both of the triangle ones, and the two pillars).
Took me about 90 minutes out of my ~19 hours of play.
Update: I took Visualante2's advice and went back to the earlier puzzles and wrote down the rules as they arose and it really helped. I've managed to finish that line of 4 puzzles and it was very satisfying! Thanks for the help!
Keep
Desert Ruin
Shady Trees
Quarry
Treehouse
Marsh
Monastery
Bunker
I think I'm at something like
over 300 normal puzzles, +19
.
I got really annoyed
testing various vantage points in the room where you can adjust the water level beneath the desert temple
, so I just looked up solutions for a couple of the panels. Solved everything else myself so far - trying to take my dear sweet time so I can observe stuff that I might need to pay attention to later.
Help, I need conformation if I locked myself out of the ending before I load a save from looooooong ago..
Ending area spoiler:
I got into the mountain and finished all the second level puzzles (the floor with the colorful epilepsy puzzles). By activating both sides you open a door to an elevator. While trying to figure out how to reach the new door I noticed that I could activate the panel from a distance. I thought that might activate a drawbridge or something so I did activate it which sent the elevator down and from what I can tell there's no panel to bring it back up even if I solve now getting across.
On the contrary, I find it to be incredibly satisfying. The most satisfying I've played in a long time. It's going to be a bit before I can go back to playing anything else, I think, because even the closest modern analogs like Talos Principle and Portal just don't quite capture the same feeling. Portal is clever and humorous, but it is relatively straightforward. Talos has the philosphy aspect and some abstraction, but the environments are typically in service of the puzzles rather than working in tandem with them.
And as much as I want more, I doubt even a "Witness 2" would capture the same appeal. I don't think Blow is interested in doing a sequel, but even if he did, he'd have to come up with tons of new rules/possibilities for the core mechanic, surely composed of those that were likely left on the cutting room floor for not being interesting/fun enough. And then you'd just have a shittier game.
Oh believe me, I realized quickly that some of the puzzles are unsolvable and that's why at least that one part of the gauntlet is multiple choice. But I swear there are some of the ones beforeand after that part that are also unsolvable, and then all I can do to fix it is to solve it incorrectly and go back and solve the previous one again to load up a new random puzzle, which costs valuable time through no fault of my own.
I actually had a fantastic run going one time and ended up with an unsolvable puzzle for the second triangle puzzle in the labyrinth. So frustrating.
No triangle puzzle is the labyrinth in unsolvable.
There's an easy trick to spotting impossible puzzles in the first set of three...if you ever see a combination of WB and right underneath is BW, forming a checkerboard 2x2, the puzzle is automatically impossible. At least 50% or more impossible puzzles have this configuration, so it definitely helps.
I'm willing to give all of the puzzles a fair shot, but it's getting tedious taking snapshots and posting them here for hints. I'd rather just get the solutions to get past anything I feel I'm stumped by.
I disagree strongly. The only bit I thought was genuinely beyond me were a few of the panels in the B
amboo
F
orest
, and that's more because
I'm very poor at isolating pitch
. And even those, I got eventually without using external help.
It's hard for me to articulate exactly what I mean when I say I feel it's fine, but I'm a big fan of adventure game puzzles, and I've written a great deal about my thoughts on puzzle design, cluing, structure, playing fair...
...and I don't think there's anything in The Witness that I'd regard as unfair. I think the tutorials are great at establishing themes, the rules in question are all pretty simple (indeed, I suspect one problem people may have is thinking the rules are more complicated than they are)
This may change when I venture into the postgame, I guess, but in the main game, I feel that the game's been true to its goals, and that's the best praise I can offer.
I wish I didn't use a guide, but I absolutely would not have finished the game without one. The biggest problem I had was the Tetris puzzles, which I think were explained horrendously.
