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The XXII Sochi Winter Olympic Games / Ski And Skate Against Hate
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Shining Sunshine
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Leaving peasent countries for the master country.
Yep - for example (scroll down):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_skating_at_the_2014_Winter_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_team_pursuit
Definitely. You get to do more runs than anyone else on things like the bobsled track, you get to know the intricacies of the ice, plus the home team usually has a fire lit under their ass, and are given tons of support, money in the lead up to the games. Whatever may come of Russia, if they're smart, they'll use the legacy of Sochi and the facilities made to become a winter Olympics powerhouse again.
Then again, the US is proof that those with the most money, corporate sponsorship and world class facilities at home can do well as well. Guys like Bode Miller and Tim Ligety come to the game with hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment, guys like Shaun White get their own half pipes made to practice on, BMW makes special one of a kind bobsleds with experimental designs etc.
Sviatoslav
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They had to sell Darya Domracheva, Iouri Podladtchikov and Anastasiya Kuzmina to afford them though. And it will only even out if Wild wins one more gold.Vic Wild, Victor Ahn. Who else did Russia buy to get all these gold medals?
Hahahaha.
criesofthepast
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I think they should really start to curb using foreign nationals on these teams. I think a good way to curb it is to say that once you compete in the Olympics for one country, you must compete for that country unless that country does not exist anymore. That article mentioned above says that the Canadian breakman has been on 3 different teams. That guy is pretty much just a mercenary. Olympics shouldn't be about that.
Kagey K
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I spent today closed off from the world and happened to tune in when I thought the next day should be starting. I do feel like an asshat though.
Thanks for making me feel better. 0_o
That's how it works in football and FIFA right?
Just updates on this:
http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitio...-and-demand-rejudgement-at-the-sochi-olympics
http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitio...-and-demand-rejudgement-at-the-sochi-olympics
At the end of the day it's all about the athletes. Viktor Ahn has won 4 medals(3 gold and 1 bronze) at these games. South Korea didn't pick him in 2010. If he believes he is as good as he is, is he supposed to just give up his dream?
You're right, I don't see anything wrong with this. It's was their own loss that they didn't believe him to be good enough or for whatever reason it maybe.
criesofthepast
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Haha no worries. I mentioned earlier in the thread I feel the networks should be putting the word LIVE in the corner during broadcasts so people know because a lot of people have been confused about what events are live and not, myself included. I know at least CBC in Canada don't do it.
Of all the sports it does seem like it's the best to be snowboarders. They are often smiling, you see comradery between the guys and girls and even when they crash they can sometimes still be happy for each other. Maybe that's all for show, but it's still a far cry from all the hate and anger that seem to be there for skating and short track.
I think it's the best to be a speed skater because they get a gazillion events and if you're decent in one, you're probably decent in most of them.
Kadayi
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So there's no point lodging a formal complaint without evidence, and the reason why no one has lodged a formal complaint is because there's no evidence. But despite the lack of any evidence, there's definitely in your words 'a legitimate case' (presumably one that would stand up in appeals court) because a bunch of people whose opinions might not necessarily be all that objective about the result based on personal favoritism (Queen Yuna) or a clear understanding of the assessment criteria at the end of the day firmly believe there's one? Makes perfect sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g
As regards the judge picture. It's not all that unusual for officals to congratulate competitors after an event. As I understand it Sotnikova once she found out she won hugged a number of people including coaches, staff, judges and even other competitors. But of course lets forget that she's a 17 year old girl whose just won Olympic Gold despite the odds in favour of her hugging that one Russian judge because it happens to fit the 'corruption' scenario.
I have to wonder if the shoe was on the other foot, and Yuna had won after a stumble and it was a Korean judge on the panel (which it could of been given they draw lots) 'caught' hugging her afterwards would you be here adamantly calling into an investigation into why Sotnikova didn't get gold? I suspect not.
Arjen
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You've got 500,1000,1500,5000 and 10000.
And people who are good at sprint don't compete in the 5k and 10k and vice versa. So it's 2, max 3 events you can compete in.
Hardly a gazillion.
questionmark
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So fucking happy right now. The Norwegian women showing their true colors and showing why them not winning gold in the relay was the biggest bomb of the entire Games. Especially happy for Kristin Størmer Steira. As I wrote on reddit:
My greatest wish is that Kristin Størmer Steira will get a medal. It's unlikely, she's past her peak. But she deserves it.
* 2006 Turin - 10km classical - 4th, 7 seconds behind 3rd
* 2006 Turin - 15km pursuit - 4th, 3.6 seconds behind 3rd
* 2006 Turin - 30km freestyle - 4th, 13 seconds behind 3rd
* 2010 Vancouver - 15km pursuit - 4th, 0.1 seconds behind 3rd, 0.5 seconds behind 2nd, 9.4 behind 1st
She has a gold medal from the relay in 2010, but no individual medal from the Olympics. That 4th place in Vancouver was heartbreaking.
Sweep! Our CC girls are def my favorite athletes in our team so I'm stoked and don't really care what the guys do.
Hugging doesn't mean anything - a judge deviating wildly in scoring does, however. And according to sources an official complaint has now been lodged.
Hugging doesn't mean anything - a judge deviating wildly in scoring does, however. And according to sources an official complaint has now been lodged.
Very impressed by the Norwegian girls, but the lack of suspense made the event a snore fest to watch. Looking forward to the 50 km event tomorrow and of course the event that matters the most - hockey finals!
Spoiler - I'm Swedish
The two only real contenders either had a broken foot (kowalcyk) or was sick just a few days ago (kalla) so it wasn't very surprising
Agreed, I expected at least Bjørgen and Johaug on the podium. Steira was the biggest surprise. Kudos to Kalla for not quitting when it was clear that she wouldn't get a medal.
True, but skiers and snowboarders suffer notorious injuries. You'll be lucky to find someone who hasn't broken a bone or suffered a significant knee injury into their twenties. But the lifestyle of theirs is just going fast, enjoying the air, speed, they're some of the most chill people ever. You can watch snowboard cross, see a guy screw up and take out a favorite and like you'd think he'd be upset he lost a medal but they just shake hands and hug and move on lol.
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Rafa=FedKilla
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Interesting. Very interesting #freegraciegold #freekaetlynosmond #freehannahmillerJust updates on this:
http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitio...-and-demand-rejudgement-at-the-sochi-olympics
Hope S Korea don't pull any of this shit to win at all cost when they have the home advantage. Not optimistic though.
Boccacini scares me... Dujmovits! Nice final.
Come on Wild.
Snowboarding has a laid back attitude about it just like surfing. The snowboard and ski bums create a sort of party culture about it. Your on the slopes during the day and then often drinking partying at night. I think because it is this way in small ski towns the attitude stays with the competitors even once they become professionals. There are a lot of hated dude bro types (on GAF) that live in ski towns. It is an awesome sport to participate in.
Kadayi
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Reports seem to vary on that front and it was a 'protest letter' according to some, which isn't necessarily cause for an investigation, but might perhaps relieve the KSU from fan pressure to be seen to do something at their end. Still personally I'd be down with an investigation if that's what's required to put some closure on the matter. I don't think the result is likely to change, and South Korea will just come out looking like butt sore losers from it all (which will bode well for them at the next games), but I dare say then the accusation would be that the investigating committee got it wrong.
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Just updates on this:
http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitio...-and-demand-rejudgement-at-the-sochi-olympics
This guy had some interesting things to say. I don't know anything about these events myself to comment.
IOC wouldn't overturn a medal unless the evidence is blatant and in the public or an athlete fails a doping test, this we've seen many times. I have no hope of that happening. The good thing is there's a consensus Sotnikova's run wasn't a 149 and the history books will take that consensus into consideration.
The same personality type that goes pro in running? I'm sure you can have a lot more fun in a pair of sneakers than running 40 kms ;-)
judged "sports" have always been, and will always be, a farce.
Imagine if the NBA's Slam Dunk competition awarded a gold medal. They're all a fucking joke.
Something to do with the lucky looney?
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