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The XXII Sochi Winter Olympic Games / Ski And Skate Against Hate

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baekshi

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what am I going to watch now..
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your favorite new gold medalists
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Setsuna

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I never understand ski slalom... There's a bunch of flags, they go around some of them and ignore others... It all look so random.


there are two sets of flags one set is red and the other is blue the skiers then alternate between the two sets of flags

he starts goes through red he then needs to go through blue then red then blue
 

Ulumsk

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Race for top of the medal standings still open. Russia looks too strong after our biathlon relay choke today though. Still possible if Norway wins the 5k Xcountry and Russia doesn't win the 4man bob tomorrow.


Johannes Dürr testing positive for EPO is pretty huge. 3rd place finish in Tour de Ski this year.
 

zroid

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Apparently the Canadians and Slovenians are filing a protest for the men's ski cross event. According to them, the French skiers (who swept the podium) were wearing illegally aerodynamic suits... :lol

I doubt anything would come of this, but if the French are DQ'd a Canadian would be elevated to gold and a Slovenian to bronze
 
Apparently the Canadians and Slovenians are filing a protest for the men's ski cross event. According to them, the French skiers (who swept the podium) were wearing illegally aerodynamic suits... :lol

I doubt anything would come of this, but if the French are DQ'd a Canadian would be elevated to gold and a Slovenian to bronze

Aerodynamic pants? >_>

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WaPo said:
SOCHI, Russia — The Court of Arbitration for Sport says Canada and Slovenia have asked that France’s freestyle skicross podium sweep at the Olympics be thrown out because of suit adjustments.

The court says the countries allege French team staffers changed the shaping of the ahtletes’ ski pants for better aerodynamics.

The event’s rules prohibit athletes from altering their uniforms for aerodynamic purposes.

I still laugh at the US speed-skater super suits that did nothing.
 

Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
I don't mind your success, the Netherlands are great. Wonderful country, nice people, better you than the US. What I mind is that we spend millions on sports promotion and TV coverage and I have to endure our commentators hyping our athletes, only for (most of) them to fail.

I think the last two Olympics (Sotchi/London) have been our worst.

What country are you from, if you don't mind me asking?
 
What country are you from, if you don't mind me asking?

I'm gonna guess Germany. Germany's done relatively pooryl these Olympics, and they've been circling the drain in the summer olympics too. They used to be a powerhouse. Dunno what's going wrong - I guess all that East Germany sports magic has finally just about petered out.
 

Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
I'm gonna guess Germany. Germany's done relatively pooryl these Olympics, and they've been circling the drain in the summer olympics too. They used to be a powerhouse. Dunno what's going wrong - I guess all that East Germany sports magic has finally just about petered out.

Canada was pretty shitty till the "Own the Podium" campaign made us wake up and start investing in our athletes(at least the winter games, we still blow at the summer games). Maybe the Germans need something similar of their own.
 
Canada was pretty shitty till the "Own the Podium" campaign made us wake up and start investing in our athletes(at least the winter games, we still blow at the summer games). Maybe the Germans need something similar of their own.

we'd been on the upswing since Nagano. the genesis of our improvement was probably the calgary games in 88 - gave us some much needed facilities. it also helps that the Olympics have added a ton of extreme sports in the past 16 years because we still do lousy in the traditional events (X-country skiing, alpine. etc)
 

Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
we'd been on the upswing since Nagano. the genesis of our improvement was probably the calgary games in 88 - gave us some much needed facilities. it also helps that the Olympics have added a ton of extreme sports in the past 16 years because we still do lousy in the traditional events (X-country skiing, alpine. etc)

We should send our athletes to Norway for a little "Cultural" exchange. Then 4 years later, they show up at the Olympics like "sup bitches!"
 

Kazerei

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we'd been on the upswing since Nagano. the genesis of our improvement was probably the calgary games in 88 - gave us some much needed facilities. it also helps that the Olympics have added a ton of extreme sports in the past 16 years because we still do lousy in the traditional events (X-country skiing, alpine. etc)

In addition to the extreme sports, curling and women's hockey were added in 1998 Nagano, and we have always medaled in these events since then. So thanks IOC, for adding events that Canada is good at :D
 

Madness

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Sotnikova did not do a nearly world record-tying run, there's nothing in her program suggesting it.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...40220_1_yuna-kim-gracie-gold-carolina-kostner

According to many top figure skaters including Elvis Stojko and many others, apparently she did.

"His opinion that Sotnikova had earned her surprise victory Thursday according to the math of the scoring system, adopted after the 2002 pairs skating scandal, was shared by several other former skaters, including some known more for their artistry and style, such as Olympic medalists Philippe Candeloro of France and Paul Wylie of the U.S."

"A week ago, 2010 Olympic champion Evan Lysacek of the U.S. had wondered whether Kim’s lack of a triple loop jump in the free skate might hurt her. That proved prophetic: Kim did six triple jumps, Sotnikova seven, and the seventh was a triple loop for which the Russian earned 6.7 points."

She played the points system, and it doesn't matter how well the performance looked necessarily. The only issue everyone has, is whether Yuna Kim deserved as low a score as she got.
 
The closing flag bearer for Canada should have been Gilmore Junio and not these bobsled girls. Heck even Jennifer Jones would have been a better choice.

Not that I really give a shit but still would have been a nice gesture to Junio since he made the ultimate sacrifice these games.
 

baekshi

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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...40220_1_yuna-kim-gracie-gold-carolina-kostner

According to many top figure skaters including Elvis Stojko and many others, apparently she did.
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I could pull up a article that says the exact opposite thing, and many top figure skaters like Katarina Witt also felt Yuna Queen was underscored.

The scoring given to Yuna (who did 6) fails to prove Asada did more difficult routines than anyone(8 jumps) and she was beaten by 7 points or Carolina who did as much as the russian skater and more cleaner.

Not going to bother with this again, and if you search yuna kim on google, google gives you Yuna Queen :)
 
I could pull up a article that says the exact opposite thing, and many top figure skaters like Katarina Witt also felt Yuna Queen was underscored.

The scoring given to Yuna (who did 6) fails to prove Asada did more difficult routines than anyone(8 jumps) and she was beaten by 7 points or Carolina who did as much as the russian skater and more cleaner.

Not going to bother with this again, and if you search yuna kim on google, google gives you Yuna Queen :)

Not sure why you clipped the part of his post that more or less says that is not his argument.

Asada's scoring has been mentioned before too:

Compare the results here: -

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...omens-figure-skating-jumps.html?smid=fb-share

Asada scored great on the triple Axel, but the follow ups weren't great in terms of the scoring. She got a neutral score for Triple loop Triple flip & an execution markdown for the Triple lutz. She was probably so relieved that she made the landing after the fall the day before that she wasn't was focused as she should of been.

Sotnikova performed solidly across all of her routine in terms of scoring, save where she stumbled and got the -0.9 markdown.

If you don't want to bother with this then why reply at all?
 

Madness

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I could pull up a article that says the exact opposite thing, and many top figure skaters like Katarina Witt also felt Yuna Queen was underscored.

The scoring given to Yuna (who did 6) fails to prove Asada did more difficult routines than anyone(8 jumps) and she was beaten by 7 points or Carolina who did as much as the russian skater and more cleaner.

Not going to bother with this again, and if you search yuna kim on google, google gives you Yuna Queen :)

I'm not sure why you replied to me necessarily? My post was directed to Peru who said that no one believes the Russian figure skater deserved that score. I said that many believe she racked up the points with her routine due to the new scoring system and that's why it was so high. I even noted in my original post, no one is really questioning the score of the Russian figure skater, as opposed to questioning the score of Yuna Kim who many believed should have been higher. Even the article I posted believed her score could have been higher. So what essentially is your argument with me? And why do I care what Google has her name as if you search?
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
She has been always on the edge with that asthma medications... but i highly doubt it, she is the most tested competitor in CC
 
We should send our athletes to Norway for a little "Cultural" exchange. Then 4 years later, they show up at the Olympics like "sup bitches!"

I don't feel that we're that starved for talent in the newer events though. Maybe the half-pipes. We've been a little unlucky with injuries and falls this year. We'll see again in South-Korea.
 

baekshi

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Not sure why you clipped the part of his post that more or less says that is not his argument.

Asada's scoring has been mentioned before too:



If you don't want to bother with this then why reply at all?

I clipped it because nothing in the article suggest as to why Asada or Carolina got lower score on her in Free Skate. It's irrelevant.

I meant I didn't want to bother with the articles that proves nothing. Whether you want to believe it she was unfairly judged or not is up to you but this did brought up flaw of the system.
I'm not sure why you replied to me necessarily? My post was directed to Peru who said that no one believes the Russian figure skater deserved that score. I said that many believe she racked up the points with her routine due to the new scoring system and that's why it was so high. I even noted in my original post, no one is really questioning the score of the Russian figure skater, as opposed to questioning the score of Yuna Kim who many believed should have been higher. Even the article I posted believed her score could have been higher. So what essentially is your argument with me? And why do I care what Google has her name as if you search?

Sorry ;p
 
Norway has had such a rollercoaster Games, but it just shows how dominant they are when they're still at (or near) the top. The camaraderie among the athletes is also something you don't see with other national teams.




I was pulling for them in curling, though. :(
 

baekshi

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Norway has had such a rollercoaster Games, but it just shows how dominant they are when they're still at (or near) the top. The camaraderie among the athletes is also something you don't see with other national teams.




I was pulling for them in curling, though. :(

That men relay didn't end well, they had a huge lead but lost in the last lap.
 
So it took for the final events in both the biathlon and cross country for us to remember that we're good at these events? Oh well, better late than never.
 

kottila

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Apparently Marit Bjørgen, who won 3 gold medals in Sochi has tested positive for a doping substance. This could mean that she gets her 3 gold medals taken away:

http://www.dagbladet.no/2014/02/22/kultur/5080/marit_bjorgen/ol/fred_borre_lundberg/31974424/

Edit: nevermind, apparently it's a joke or something...

Austrian and third place in TdS was caught for EPO today. http://www.dw.de/austrian-cross-country-skier-johannes-dürr-tests-positive-for-epo/a-17451820
 
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