James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Same people writing off other games and remasters now saying they're huge news….
"There's Some Stuff That's Unannounced": Phil Spencer Teases Xbox Has More In Its Locker This Year
Same people writing off other games and remasters now saying they're huge news….
Not_A-Cop_Maybe
Member
Because until the screens, it was all make believe.
Also it is huge for xbox, as Oblivion is a favourite for many here and in the gaming space. For many it's their first WRPG game on console, pc, etc. For many its the definite rpg experience that many games after it have taken inspiration but perhaps not reached the same level. IMO that feeling to me is nostaligia and what not, but the original remain for many a favourite.
Also a remaster for a 50+ hour game that comes for it's userbase on gamepass is huge. It will also be huge for those that buy it on the other platforms as well.
More than the resident evils and other games, Oblivion has been one that has been the most requested, and it coming from Xbox is huge.
Kacho
Member
An Oblivion remake/remaster (whatever it is) is objectively huge. It's one of the biggest RPGs of the past 20 years. It's fine if you don't personally like it, but dismissing it because it's associated with Xbox is pure retardation.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Skyrim was the game that blew up. I don't think oblivion was that huge or fondly remembered.
In terms of remasters, it's on par with many others that people seem to get upset about, but I'm not writing it off myself personally
Kacho
Member
It was huge on PC and Xbox 360. Not PS3 (though I recall the PS3 port being pretty decent? might be misremembering).
Killjoy-NL
Member
Oblivion sold around 9.5M copies on multiple platforms.
TLOU2 sold 10+M copies on Playstation.
Quite the double standard again.
(Btw, nobody adressed 23K CCU for Xbox games being great, but 30K CCU for TLOU2 means it's a flop?)
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Dr. Suchong
Member
Only in your wildest fantasies...
Not_A-Cop_Maybe
Member
I'm at times in the same thinking space as those people.
Oblivion remaster- worth it. 50+ hour game from nearly 20 years ago- worth it
MGS SnakeEater/Delta Remaster: 20 Year old fan favorite- worth it
Resident evil remasters - Full graphical overhaul, story fixes, etc - worth it
age of mythology remastered- new content + graphical updates- worth it
Last of Us Remasters - an IP less than 15 years old, that has had countless upgrade editions from ps3- ps4- ps5 - not at all since its been remastered like 3 times.
warcraft iii reforged - half ass remaster
mario all stars- half assed and de-listed almost as soon as it came out
GTA definite collection: Absoloute ass of a remaster
I'm not a fan of remasters to be honest, i think it diminishes the potential for new IP's and quite frankly money should be spent on new ip's or pushing existing ip's forward; that being said dollar per hour spent on a game is a real thing, and Oblivion has enough game content that dwarfs many games today.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Different era games.
Also check budget differences between TLOU2 and Oblivion. Part 2 must be over 20 times more expensive to produce at the very least.
HYDE
Member
Should change it to flaccid
Killjoy-NL
Member
Yes, part 2 also sold more on just 1 platform.
Not_A-Cop_Maybe
Member
Killjoy-NL
Member
Yeah, they're also absent from NPD/circana charts, or somewhere at the bottom of the list, even on Xbox.
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Punished Miku
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I would never buy an Oblivion remake day 1 unless I saw substantially revamped combat. But GP? Oh hell yeah.
It's almost always a waste to buy the same game again full price. I skipped RE4 Remake as well, and will wait for price cuts on Silent Hill 2 Remake, and Ninja Gaiden Black 2. There's so much original content I'd rather support at launch. For example, most people on here won't even realize that Avowed is probably better than this game in a lot of areas but all they will do is play the same thing again they already know.
I might cave on Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia though day 1. Those are among my favorite series ever. Depends on how they look.
It's almost always a waste to buy the same game again full price. I skipped RE4 Remake as well, and will wait for price cuts on Silent Hill 2 Remake, and Ninja Gaiden Black 2. There's so much original content I'd rather support at launch. For example, most people on here won't even realize that Avowed is probably better than this game in a lot of areas but all they will do is play the same thing again they already know.
I might cave on Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia though day 1. Those are among my favorite series ever. Depends on how they look.
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The fact that he compare ((like complaining about an alleged double standard) the reactions to the announcement of a mythical game from 20 years ago with the remastering of games 4 years old (not counting patches in between)..... it says even more.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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vaibhavpisal
Member
Not sure what you are trying to prove here.
TLOU2 was a regression over part 1. I don't expect part 3 to grow franchise.
Oblivion meanwhile gave way to Skyrim, that brought franchise to mainstream. It has an important role to play in its success.
Baemono
Member
No
One remaster, one remake of the first game, and then a remaster of the second one.
Shadow of the Colossus got the same treatment, same as Resident Evil 4. And Resident Evil got a remake which got remastered.
Hollowpoint5557
A Fucking Idiot
How long before Xbox announces they took the bag and are now publishing games as Sony timed exclusives?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Not_A-Cop_Maybe
Member
So it's 2 Remasters, and One Remake (the last of us part 1 on ps5 and pc) for TLOU - That just supports my point as well.
SOTC - the HD upgrade came with ICO as part of a HD upgrade during the era we were switching over the HD tv's and consoles capable of HD. The remake came in 2018. Imo the remake is the better game, so its worth it. tho SOTC is a low key favorite, so i may be biased.
Same with RE4 is it now? Though RE4 has many ports like Wii and the VR game didnt it?
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Hawk The Slayer
Member
Yep it's way beyond all the others since I doubt they'll announce the Fallout 3 Remake this soon so Oblivion Remake is stealing all the spotlight on this and rightfully so.
For me I'm also looking forward to the Dishonored 3 if that turns out to be true.
Yep the thing with Oblivion and Morrowind is even if they didn't sold a crazy gigantic amount like Skyrim. They still surpass many other games that sold more than it because of their legacy how their lore just flows with each game giving us a amazing and immersive lore and world connecting multiple games which gain lots of interest overtime and outlasted even other big popular games with infinite mods and lore discussions overtime.
Elder Scroll as a franchise is now the biggest and greatest fantasy franchise out there. Elder Scrolls VI would be beyond massive only surpassed by GTA VI.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Some of the takes in here
Kacho
Member
Yep. Morrowind and Oblivion released around the time World of Warcraft and The Lord of the Rings movies released. It was a perfect storm for uber nerds.
SJRB
Gold Member
Yeah, the screens confirm it's real. Why wouldn't it be huge?
My point is that the game isn't even officially announced yet and it's already casually mentioned in articles of interviews with Phil Spencer as if it were. It's just a weird situation.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I somewhat agree.
If, at this point, it doesn't get announced and/or dropped next week, a lot of us are going to have egg all over our faces
Killjoy-NL
Member
Isn't regression the entire issue with Xbox?
Like I said, the bar has become real low on Xbox.
And you're comment on Part 3 is probably why they're working on Intergalactic.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
The effort to make a remaster of horizon, TLOU2, and days gone is much less resources than something like oblivion
I don't understand the disdain for one and the joy of another.
It's just an option for people to buy if they wish, but a remaster of oblivion is taking away more resources than a remaster of a ps4 game
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Plus Oblivion is something that's way more replayable and much bigger and longer than most games including TLOUs and many others.
It's not simply a long game either cause for example Final Fantasy Games are great and long but after one playthrough people probably won't replay it until awhile later. While Oblivion isn't just long and fun but also highly replayable with trying out different builds, different ways to play quests, different orders to do things, different kind of immersive roleplaying etc etc. Same for every other Elder Scrolls and Fallout games starting from 3.
Not even including mods which just makes them beyond 10/10 and immortalize it.
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Killjoy-NL
Member
Look, I loved Oblivion at the time and I might buy the remake, but people are overselling it.
The story was meh, combat was meh as well and especially the dungeons were repetitive af.
But the double standards are rather obvious on Gaf.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Dude, the fuck are you talking about? You started this topic with errant commentary that 'the bar is so low for xbox', now whining about people being excited for a remaster of a 20~ year old game that has not seen any intermediate re-release or remasters in between.
Stop hating so much. Go play a game, smoke a joint or something.
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Matsuchezz
Member
It's crazy all of those already released have been duds and really forgettable games.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
I do think Obivion is more repetitive compared to the other Fallout games and Elder Scroll games. I always enjoyed Morrowind, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, and Fallout 4 over it.
But Oblivion is still better than 99% of the games out there as a god tier game made by Todd Howard the Legend.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Where did I rant about people being excited about the Oblivion remaster?
I literally stated I might buy it myself.
Do you even read?
Negotiator101
Member
Yeah unfortunately SoM wasn't great but still impressive so far.
Kacho
Member
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
I'd hope they have more stuff lined up as we're only in friggin April! Nearly 2/3rds of the year to go!
Either way, what a company has in any given year isn't the meaningful part when games routinely take half a decade between releases. Xbox needs a prolonged (multi-year) period of steady releases to prove that they have the in-house pipeline in order.
Either way, what a company has in any given year isn't the meaningful part when games routinely take half a decade between releases. Xbox needs a prolonged (multi-year) period of steady releases to prove that they have the in-house pipeline in order.
PlayStaytion
Member
Babidi: What a useless transformation, you changed your hair so what?
Killjoy-NL
Member
You didn't read, did you?Doom The Dark Ages
It won't do amazingly well, but decent at best.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Forgive me, but your entire posting spree in this topic is coming off as pretty whine-ish
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Takes a shot at how low the bar is at Xbox, complains about some sort of double standard yet posts an untold amount of times hyping/defending/propping up Marathon (speaking of low bars)
Killjoy-NL
Member
Not at all. Just pointing out that there is a lower bar for Xbox games, hence why the line-up might seem "impressive".Forgive me, but your entire posting spree in this topic is coming off as pretty whine-ish
Killjoy-NL
Member
So, did you find those quotes of me "hyping up" Concord yet?Takes a shot at how low the bar is at Xbox, complains about some sort of double standard yet posts an untold amount of times hyping/defending/propping up Marathon (speaking of low bars)
Or Marathon, for that matter.
djjinx2
Member
Well fucking said, same old fanboys shitting up threads AGAIN
Killjoy has posted over 13.5% of replies to games he doesn't even like or care care about. (13 posts out of less than 100)
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Killjoy-NL
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WhiteWaterM00se
Member
Maybe they bring back a smaller scale game like 1v100 or Full House Poker?
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Takes a shot at how low the bar is at Xbox, complains about some sort of double standard yet posts an untold amount of times hyping/defending/propping up Marathon (speaking of low bars)
Low bars would be hyping up an oblivion remaster while throwing shade at other remasters
Nice of you to bring up an unrelated game though, clearly showing marching order bias in full force
Oblivion was a one of a kind title at the time of release, but it wasn't a particularly great game IMHO. After the dust settled people were basically meh on it, but it was the first big open world 360 title so it's looked upon with rose colored glasses
An oblivion remake could be good, going to require a significant amount of rework to the base game to bring it up to modern standards though.
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Punished Miku
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Couple key differences.
- MS is on track to release / publish 8 games this year (Avowed, South of Midnight, Doom, THPS, Towerborne (2nd party), Ninja Gaiden 4 (2nd party), Outer Worlds 2, Oblivion Remake) and just put out Indiana Jones late last year
- Bethesda put out a new huge RPG recently
- It's on Gamepass
- It's made by a totally separate mercenary development studio not tying up anyone's 1st party resources
- It's an old game that isn't even available on PS without significant drawbacks even on its original system