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[Not_A-Cop_Maybe]

I don't know wtf Concord has anything to do with any of this but you bringing it up instead of GOTY games like Helldivers 2 and Astrobot tells me everything I need to know.

I don't know where you learned to read, but perhaps if reading comprehension is hard, I attributed the "negative" sentiment in that thread due to the fact that concord had just bombed, and that instead of announcing a new game people actually wanted to play, they were understandably unhappy that a "rumoured" remaster of game's they have already played and remastered would not appease the angry sentiment. I literally said the same thing in the next sentence.

Let me reiterate again:

The fact that the earlier direction at sony indicated more of Concord/as in Live Service games were on the way/in production/cancelled, that could have also attributed to the whatever negative sentiment was in that imagined in that thread. There were plenty of memes in the Playstation Thread about it too.

You did not read after the word Concord.
That told me everything i needed to know

 

[sendit]

This should calm you down

 

[adamsapple]

god bless you goat spencer

*Our GOAT Spencer.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

ITT a greatest hits of my ignore list. Funny as fuck. Just ignore them and they don't get to shit up xbox threads anymore.

 

[Three]

I don't know where you learned to read, but perhaps if reading comprehension is hard, I attributed the "negative" sentiment in that thread due to the fact that concord had just bombed, and that instead of announcing a new game people actually wanted to play, they were understandably unhappy that a "rumoured" remaster of game's they have already played and remastered would not appease the angry sentiment. I literally said the same thing in the next sentence.

Let me reiterate again:

The fact that the earlier direction at sony indicated more of Concord/as in Live Service games were on the way/in production/cancelled, that could have also attributed to the whatever negative sentiment was in that imagined in that thread. There were plenty of memes in the Playstation Thread about it too.

You did not read after the word Concord.
That told me everything i needed to know

Their next game which was already announced is Death Stranding 2 but I can see why people keep pushing the Concord narrative like yourself, that's my point.

 

[Not_A-Cop_Maybe]

Their next game which was already announced is Death Stranding 2 but I can see why people keep pushing the Concord narrative like yourself, that's my point.

DS2 was confirmed announced in 2022 wasnt it?

 

[Three]

DS2 was confirmed announced in 2022 wasnt it?

Yes and most MS games were announced 6 years ago in 2019. What's your point?
You said

"The fact that the earlier direction at sony indicated more of Concord/as in Live Service games were on the way/in production/cancelled, that could have also attributed"

If you were talking about announced and cancelled games that were known even earlier then what point are you making? Their announced games releasing this year are Death Stranding 2 and Ghost of Yotei. 2 games that share nothing in common with Concord. So why would people be upset about GoW 1-3 remasters? The answer is obvious if you don't have blinders on.

 

[Not_A-Cop_Maybe]

Yes and most MS games were announced 6 years ago in 2019. What's your point?
You said

"The fact that the earlier direction at sony indicated more of Concord/as in Live Service games were on the way/in production/cancelled, that could have also attributed"

If you were talking about announced and cancelled games that were known even earlier then what point are you making? Their announced games releasing this year are Death Stranding 2 and Ghost of Yotei. 2 games that share nothing in common with Concord. So why would people be upset about GoW 1-3 remasters? The answer is obvious if you don't have blinders on.

My brother perhaps not in christ, what the fuck are you going on about?

You linked me a thread about a GOW 1-3, asencion, etc remaster that was posted in Oct 2024, a mere month after Concord was cancelled. I was simply trying to say that the negative sentiment you see in that thread could be as a result of conord's performance.

Sony's State of Play in September did very little to improve that sentiment. Even in the typical Sony people in those threads are there saying "only Ghost of Yotei and more remakes; why am i paying 70 bucks for a game with ps4 assets. This is doing nothing to improve my decision to buy a ps5 pro" - I'm saying is that these sentiments were being carried forward when in the thread you linked literally echoes the same sentiment.

Speaking of blinders, you are the only one wearing some kind of Blue tinted glasses. All i said was that the sentiment after concord and even with the state of play in sept. would have resulted in the same sentiment only a month later in the thread you linked.

At no point did i say its because of concord, sony remasters are terrible. I said the thread you linked to, had negative comments prob from what happened to concord, a mere month ago and now im saying the same sentiment was there in the state of play threads.

I dont know what MS announcing games 6 years ago has to do with negative comments in that thread or this thread, because up till yesterday the Oblivion remake was a rumor.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Why aren't they bringing things into the light over at Xbox? Marathon looks rough, gears of war is their golden ticket, I can see fable exploding, I always thought Microsoft would match Spider-Man, and they want to get their hooks into Netflix's service.

 

[HYDE]

Congratulations, you've figured out how subscription services work.

The poster I responded to said he was getting a subscription game for free, hint you're paying for a subscription; hence, it's not free, duh!
Don't get so butthurt because your favorite console illicits flaccid feelings for others.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Looking forward to your impressions of the remaster as well.

Depends on the gameplay footage.

It's a great game regardless, just not sure if I'll be double-dipping myself.

Xbox owning Bethesda doesn't take away from Oblivion.

 

[adamsapple]

Don't get so butthurt because your favorite console illicits flaccid feelings for others.

Your inadequacies are none of my problem or concerns bro.

Depends on the gameplay footage.

It's a great game regardless, just not sure if I'll be double-dipping myself.

Xbox owning Bethesda doesn't take away from Oblivion.

Well, Bethesda isn't the one developing this anyway so that is a completely moot point.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Please let one of those be the Fallout 3 remaster/remake

Why do you want a remaster of the worst Fallout game? Then again they chose Oblivion over Morrowind, so I guess there is a precedent.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Depends on the gameplay footage.

Let me help you with that:

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Well, Bethesda isn't the one developing this anyway so that is a completely moot point.

Doesn't even matter, that's probably the point you guys don't get.

I just look at the game. Who develops or publishes it isn't that important.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

W

Let me help you with that:

Yes, it's a remake.

But the screens tempered my expectations a bit.

 

[adamsapple]

Doesn't even matter, that's probably the point you guys don't get.

I just look at the game. Who develops or publishes it isn't that important.

Ok, I get that and ideally that's how it should be. You shouldn't assign predetermined preferences to a game depending on who made it. But you've kinda made it into an 'Xbox' thing from basically your first post in the thread.

I hope you understand why these mixed messages may appear confusing

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Ok, I get that and ideally that's how it should be. You shouldn't assign predetermined preferences to a game depending on who made it.

I don't. That's what I just said and what I've always said.

But you've kinda made it into an 'Xbox' thing from basically your first post in the thread.

I hope you understand why these mixed messages may appear confusing

Well yeah, because this thread is about Xbox output, not about Oblivion.

My messages aren't mixed.

 

[adamsapple]

I don't. That's what I just said and what I've always said.

I mean ... you did call Doom an AA-like shooter and crossed it off in your checklist long before it has come out because it's an Xbox game.

and you've also made mixed messages regarding your arbitrary criteria that some games are 'written off' because they're 'underwhelming on a technical level', while for some you write them off because of Steam CCU.

So when you say this ..

My messages aren't mixed.

Please don't be surprised if the layman doesn't agree with it.

I'm just saying.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I mean ... you did call Doom an AA-like shooter and crossed it off in your checklist long before it has come out because it's an Xbox game.

Yes, and you think that's just because Xbox is publishing it and not because I actually think it looks like an AA-like boomer shooter?

That's the problem with some of you. You've created this fictional narrative by writing everything I (and many others btw) say off as 'fanboyism', but now it gets confusing because Xbox is bringing games to Playstation and there are (former) 3rd party games that I would (possibly) play, like Blops6, Oblivion, Hellblade 2 and Fable if it ends up being good.

Somehow, most of the Xbox 'camp' is awfully quiet when I speak positively about Hellblade 2, for example.

and you've also made mixed messages regarding your arbitrary criteria that some games are 'written off' because they're 'underwhelming on a technical level', while for some you write them off because of Steam CCU.

Yes, because I'm addressing the supposed "hype" created by people that actually talk up mediocre-looking games.
That's me writing off the narrative.

So when you say this ..



Please don't be surprised if the layman doesn't agree with it.

I'm just saying.

I'm not surprised at all. It's expected, because people don't read.

 

[adamsapple]

Yes, and you think that's just because Xbox is publishing it and not because I actually think it looks like an AA-like boomer shooter?

Yeah, your posting style definitely comes off like that, when you call a string of games, some not out and the rest all 80+ aggregate reviewed and say "Xbox truly has become the poster-child of mediocrity", it does come off pretty fan-boyish.

Tell me honestly you don't see it?

That's the problem with some of you. You've created this fictional narrative by writing everything I (and many others btw) say off as 'fanboyism', but now it gets confusing because Xbox is bringing games to Playstation and there are (former) 3rd party games that I would (possibly) play, like Blops6, Oblivion, Hellblade 2 and Fable if it ends up being good.

Ok? This only tells me that you're ok with playing 'mediocrity' if it lands on a platform available to you.

Somehow, most of the Xbox 'camp' is awfully quiet when I speak positively about Hellblade 2, for example.

Good. Xbox 'camp' probably doesn't stalk your posts, but I hope you enjoy it if/when you can play it.

Yes, because I'm addressing the supposed "hype" created by people that actually talk up mediocre-looking games.
That's me writing off the narrative.

You stating your opinion isn't writing off any narratives, that's just your opinion.

What's mediocre looking to you isn't the same for others, the folks disagreeing with you about Doom in this thread is just one example,that's not a narrative being written off. \

 

[Blank Space Invader]

I've started reading Phil quotes in my mind in the voice of a supporting actor mobster in a good Martin Scorsese flick.

 

[L*][*N*K]

Poor phil, he really tries I feel so bad for him.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Yeah, your posting style definitely comes off like that, when you call a string of games, some not out and the rest all 80+ aggregate reviewed and say "Xbox truly has become the poster-child of mediocrity", it does come off pretty fan-boyish.

Tell me honestly you don't see it?

See what? Why people call me a fanboy?
Sure, I do. But I don't care, because it doesn't matter what people label me as.

Ok? This only tells me that you're ok with playing 'mediocrity' if it lands on a platform available to you.

No, I don't mind playing mediocrity if it manages to appeal to me, like Arma Reforger.

I never said mediocrity is a bad thing. People like you make a big deal out of it.

Good. Xbox 'camp' probably doesn't stalk your posts, but I hope you enjoy it if/when you can play it.

No, but they always magically appear like clockwork when I say something negative about anything Xbox.

Must be a coincidence then.

You stating your opinion isn't writing off any narratives, that's just your opinion.

Yes, it is. That's why I never understand why people get worked up all the time over what I say.

What's mediocre looking to you isn't the same for others, the folks disagreeing with you about Doom in this thread is just one example,that's not a narrative being written off. \

Yeah, but your opinion doesn't matter to me. It's all just opinions. That's 90% of any discussion on Gaf.

 

[lh032]

Just make sure all those games are pro enhanced

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Ok? This only tells me that you're ok with playing 'mediocrity' if it lands on a platform available to you.

I actually took the effort to dig up an older post from back in 2020 on my OG account.

The publisher of a game and which platforms it's available on are irrelevant, as at the time, Ninja Theory worked exclusively for Xbox and releasing on Xbox/PC:

About time MS got some talent.
Took em about 2 gens. Lol

But curious to see what Ninja Theory can do with some serious backing.

I was supportive of them regardless. The whole 'fanboy'-schtick is imaginary.

 

[Team Andromeda]

Please point out what exactly I'm bashing?

Microsoft's games this year are all part of recent acquisitions that were going to come out on PlayStation anyways

You are in every Xbox thread of late, looking to find fault with any Xbox game, usually ones you haven't even played or bought....acting like some spoilt child who's not getting their own way; The Generation fans have been so used to telling year after year how amazing SONY's In-House studios are and the games they push out, that they can't take it now, that Xbox has more to offer In-House over the last year and coming year, not just in number of titles but the diversity of them too

So need to come into any Xbox thread looking to find fault with Xbox games, hiding behind sales or review data or everyone's favourite YouTube channel with the 'trademark' expressive thumbnail to look to nitpick at any Xbox game
Like I said, it's beyond pathetic...

 

[IDKFA]

Why do you want a remaster of the worst Fallout game? Then again they chose Oblivion over Morrowind, so I guess there is a precedent.

Each to their own.

FO:NV had a better story, but FO3 had a superior atmosphere and world. The capital wasteland is one of my favourite open worlds to explore.

I also think most people would agree that FO3 is a lot better than FO4 in every way.

 

[Rien]

" Phil Spencer Teases Xbox Has More In Its Locker This Year "

I have my Xbox in my locker for over a year

 

[Three]

My brother perhaps not in christ, what the fuck are you going on about?

You linked me a thread about a GOW 1-3, asencion, etc remaster that was posted in Oct 2024, a mere month after Concord was cancelled. I was simply trying to say that the negative sentiment you see in that thread could be as a result of conord's performance.

Sony's State of Play in September did very little to improve that sentiment. Even in the typical Sony people in those threads are there saying "only Ghost of Yotei and more remakes; why am i paying 70 bucks for a game with ps4 assets. This is doing nothing to improve my decision to buy a ps5 pro" - I'm saying is that these sentiments were being carried forward when in the thread you linked literally echoes the same sentiment.

Speaking of blinders, you are the only one wearing some kind of Blue tinted glasses. All i said was that the sentiment after concord and even with the state of play in sept. would have resulted in the same sentiment only a month later in the thread you linked.

At no point did i say its because of concord, sony remasters are terrible. I said the thread you linked to, had negative comments prob from what happened to concord, a mere month ago and now im saying the same sentiment was there in the state of play threads.

I dont know what MS announcing games 6 years ago has to do with negative comments in that thread or this thread, because up till yesterday the Oblivion remake was a rumor.

My brother, you're on about "a mere month" (it was 2 months), yet Astrobot released mere days/weeks before that thread. It's obvious where the sentiment is coming from and it has nothing to do with not looking forward to more Concord is all I'm saying. The sentiment for remasters/remakes existed before it. Now of course some of those same people are cool with it. Have a good day. You're probably a DynamiteCop alt anyway.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

" Phil Spencer Teases Xbox Has More In Its Locker This Year "

I have my Xbox in my locker for over a year

 

[Baemono]

some here have called me a Playstation hater

Which is nonsense as you're very balanced in your opinions in gaming (except anything related to CoD) so it's impossible to put you in a box (hater/fanboy) - except anything related to CoD.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Which is nonsense as you're very balanced in your opinions in gaming (except anything related to CoD) so it's impossible to put you in a box (hater/fanboy) - except anything related to CoD.

I do enjoy the quick fix of some COD hardcore MP matches

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I do enjoy the quick fix of some COD hardcore MP matches

At least there's some common ground between us.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

that Xbox has more to offer In-House over the last year and coming year

No it doesn't, sorry. Xbox fanaticals like yourself are so defensive and put words in peoples mouths

Why can't you answer a question - what game am I hating on in this thread?

 

[Team Andromeda]

No it doesn't, sorry. Xbox fanaticals like yourself are so defensive and put words in peoples mouths

Why can't you answer a question - what game am I hating on in this thread?

You keep on calling people Xbox fanatics when there's no bigger Sony Generation fanatic than you... and Like you've had anything good to say about Starfield or Avowed.
No doubt you'll change your tune when they come to the PS5 *rollseyes*

 

[Killjoy-NL]

No doubt you'll change your tune when they come to the PS5 *rollseyes*

This is what I was talking about earlier.

Some people really believe platforms have something to do with it.

Take a look at Indy. It's release on PS5 seems to generate no hype at all. Practically zero.
The platform Xbox games release on is irrelevant.

 

[Ozriel]

Why aren't they bringing things into the light over at Xbox? Marathon looks rough, gears of war is their golden ticket, I can see fable exploding, I always thought Microsoft would match Spider-Man, and they want to get their hooks into Netflix's service.

There's going to be a summer showcase.

The sentiment for remasters/remakes existed before it. Now of course some of those same people are cool with it. Have a good day. You're probably a DynamiteCop alt anyway.

Oblivion is a very well regarded 2006 game, nearly 20 years old. People were excited about Demon Souls remake. KOTOR remake. Soul Reaver remake and others. We had excellent reception to Silent Hill 2 remake, a PS exclusive.

 

[Ozriel]

This is what I was talking about earlier.

Some people really believe platforms have something to do with it.

Take a look at Indy. It's release on PS5 seems to generate no hype at all. Practically zero.
The platform Xbox games release on is irrelevant.

I'm not sure what that proves. We didn't have any hype threads when TLOU 2 and Spiderman 2 released on PC. Disscussion happens close to release on its original platform. We're not going to get massive threads when Cyberpunk 2077 shows up on Switch 2. Or even Elden Ring.

What is incontestable is that some of you become insufferable jesters when it comes to platforms other than the ones you own.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

What is incontestable is that some of you become insufferable jesters when it comes to platforms other than the ones you own.

How so? Xbox is bringing it's games to playstation.

A game like Indy is part of the Playstation library now.

As for the point to prove, I'm not trying to make a point.
I'm just saying the Xbox library is mediocre and gets praised mostly because the standard is low.

 

[MiguelItUp]

I mean, yeah, sure. That's what every studio head will say. We won't know how everything will land until we know more. I will say, it would be really cool to be at another point where Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo platforms and their games all feel really strong. I feel like we haven't seen such a thing in so many years, and I really miss that. It's so easy for people to make decisions these days, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I just loved when people wanted to get a new console and had to REALLY stop and think about which one they wanted to go with that was best for them.

 

[Punished Miku]

I mean, yeah, sure. That's what every studio head will say. We won't know how everything will land until we know more.

I could easily see one of Double Fine's games being very small and possibly coming out in the fall or something.

 

[Ozriel]

As for the point to prove, I'm not trying to make a point.
I'm just saying the Xbox library is mediocre and gets praised mostly because the standard is low.

Yeah, that's certainly your shtick. I recall you tried to make that claim for Sea of Thieves

 

[Three]

There's going to be a summer showcase.




Oblivion is a very well regarded 2006 game, nearly 20 years old. People were excited about Demon Souls remake. KOTOR remake. Soul Reaver remake and others. We had excellent reception to Silent Hill 2 remake, a PS exclusive.

God of war is a 2005 game that was way more popular and very well regarded too. Demons Souls remake did not get a good reception from a lot of people. You clearly don't remember people calling it a PS3 game they already played just as you were blind to the post with the most likes in the thread I posted regarding GoW suggesting it had a good reception when that rumour didn't.

 

[adamsapple]

Yeah, that's certainly your shtick. I recall you tried to make that claim for Sea of Thieves

I mean he deemed Doom a 'mediocre slop' like 3 months before it came out.

The commitment to the shtick is commendable if nothing else.

When you have even my man Kacho questioning you, you know it's over.

God of war is a 2005 game that was way more popular and very well regarded too. Demons Souls remake did not get a good reception from a lot of people. You clearly don't remember people calling it a PS3 game they already played just as you were blind to the post with the most likes in the thread I posted regarding GoW suggesting it had a good reception when that rumour didn't.

God of War has already had a remaster, a pretty good one at that.

This is the first time Oblivion is getting a new release since its PS3 version came out ~18 years ago.

It's really not the same thing. Also, kinda weird that you keep pushing the "some people" narrative, a good portion of the people criticizing things like TLoU's many re-release are all primary PlayStation users, so you keep trying to turn this into a console thing is pretty telling of where you're coming from.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Yeah, that's certainly your shtick. I recall you tried to make that claim for Sea of Thieves

Yes, and it didn't make a big splash on Playstation either.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Skyrim was the game that blew up. I don't think oblivion was that huge or fondly remembered.

In terms of remasters, it's on par with many others that people seem to get upset about, but I'm not writing it off myself personally

Oblivion put TES on the map, I don't play those types of games often, but Oblivion got everyone excited and I also loved it.Skyrim benefited from that, but wasn't as good in my opinion.

 

[Team Andromeda]

This is what I was talking about earlier.

Some people really believe platforms have something to do with it.

Take a look at Indy. It's release on PS5 seems to generate no hype at all. Practically zero.
The platform Xbox games release on is irrelevant.

Of course, platforms have a lot to do with it. I remember people saying they couldn't play Pro Evo on the Xbox because they couldn't get used to the pad layout.
I don't get your point over Indy either, it's already done well on Xbox and PC and no doubt will do well on the PS5



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[Killjoy-NL]

I mean he deemed Doom a 'mediocre slop' like 3 months before it came out.

The commitment to the shtick is commendable if nothing else.

When you have even my man Kacho questioning you, you know it's over.



God of War has already had a remaster, a pretty good one at that.

We'll be having the same conversation after Doom has been released.

 

[Punished Miku]

Yes, and it didn't make a big splash on Playstation either.

A water pun?