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[qindarka]

I dunno, while this film is good (from reading the stuff), Brave definitely deserves the flak it gets.

I'm not referring to Brave's quality as a film, just that people like to make out as if it is so progressive and revolutionary and use that as a stick to beat other 'Disney princess' movies with. And I sense this annoying narrative continuing with Frozen.

As an aside, Brave still received fairly good reviews and there is a very realistic chance Frozen may get a similar level of critical reception, early reviews tending to be more positive.

As another aside, though I get some sick pleasure from seeing Pixar get bashed, I like Brave and don't really understand why people seem to have so many issues with it.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Wait, Brave is progressive and was set as a standard for princesses? wat lol

I'd argue that Mulan personally is my princess measuring stick and even then I know from heart that it's special because it isn't a Disney princess movie.

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Hey everyone. I worked on this film. Very proud of how it turned out. Glad to see positive reviews showing up after the trailers sorely misrepresented the film. Hope you all go see it and enjoy it!

Thanks for sharing Can't wait to see this. Already see Elsa and Anna at the theme parks. They're wonderful

 

[Twilight Gap]

Mulan is such a good film.

 

[Krev]

I wrote this one off based on the title and trailers.

The Disney cycle strikes again!

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Yeah, I didn't like first few as we got a little over Olafed. Anna is just adorable though.

 

[Oozer3993]

I wrote this one off based on the title and trailers.

The Disney cycle strikes again!

LOL The Disney cycle; the complete opposite of the Sonic Cycle!

 

[Boss Doggie]

I still wonder why people judge stuff from trailers.

 

[timetokill]

Hey everyone. I worked on this film. Very proud of how it turned out. Glad to see positive reviews showing up after the trailers sorely misrepresented the film. Hope you all go see it and enjoy it!

Congrats. I really do hope it reviews well. I ended up showing my wife the latest trailer today, and afterward she said, "that looks awful." And she is pretty much down to see any Disney animated film, so... yeah, the trailers aren't doing many favors with me or mine.

That said, if it reviews really strongly and gets good word of mouth we still could end up seeing it in theatres.

 

[overcast]

I still wonder why people judge stuff from trailers.

With Disney films I'll be there either way, but a trailer IS intended to sell the product to the audience. Of course the knee jerk reaction can go either way.

 

[Boss Doggie]

With Disney films I'll be there either way, but a trailer IS intended to sell the product to the audience. Of course the knee jerk reaction can go either way.

Yeah but we're in the age where trailers need to "hook" the masses. I guess back then trailers were more... "faithful", but that's not the case lately, especially in animated films.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Another positive video review.

The World of Disney's 'Frozen'

 

[Leeness]

Another positive video review.

The World of Disney's 'Frozen'

Stop doing this to meeeeeeee I just want to watch the movie now :'(

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Stop doing this to meeeeeeee I just want to watch the movie now :'(

♥ ♥ ♥

 

[The Dutch Slayer]

Hey everyone. I worked on this film. Very proud of how it turned out. Glad to see positive reviews showing up after the trailers sorely misrepresented the film. Hope you all go see it and enjoy it!

!!!! congrats man can not wait here in the Netherlands movie comes out dec 11th.
Hopefully the movie does well con words of month this year and when it comes out on blu-ray just like Tangled did.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Best looking Disney princess ever?

 

[qindarka]

No, her neck is distractingly long. And technically, she is no longer a princess.



Let it Go featured in Disney's World of Color along with some footage. (Not the full song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G31wNCwskI

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Let it Go featured in Disney's World of Color along with some footage. (Not the full song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G31wNCwskI

Wow, this is truly amazing. I absolutely can't wait to see this in all its glory at a cinema!

EDIT: The moment when she transforms is so damn good! HNNG! Disney magic in full force!

 

[BarrenMind]

Had the opportunity to see this last night. The short before the film was incredible.

As for Frozen, I was continuously struck throughout the viewing by the imagination and effort behind all of the art design. I have to shut myself up or I'd just keep spewing other positive things. I do actually think I like Tangled better, but this was much, much better than I was expecting.

 

[UrbanRats]

I think the story has more potential than Tangled, however i'm worried about the visual variety the snow setting can offer, but i'm sure they'll found creative ways around it.

Both Tangled and Wreck it Ralph were great.

 

[qindarka]

Had the opportunity to see this last night. The short before the film was incredible.

As for Frozen, I was continuously struck throughout the viewing by the imagination and effort behind all of the art design. I have to shut myself up or I'd just keep spewing other positive things. I do actually think I like Tangled better, but this was much, much better than I was expecting.

Thanks for the impressions. Would you like to share your thoughts about other aspects of the film such as story, characters, music etc?

Also, as a point of reference, how highly do you rate Tangled?



Anyway, fresh set of reviews:

“Frozen” is a winter wonder of a family film, the sort of movie you hope for during the holiday season. Well, it’s here, go see it.

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2013/...mixes-music-and-animation-to-a/#ixzz2kkIk7piC

But Frozen is a breed apart, for its classical fairytale roots and for what it means to the Disney tradition that began 76 years ago with the debut of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs on Dec. 21, 1937.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/15/disneys-frozen-revives-its-classical-animation-roots

Disney has officially won over our hearts again with its new movie "Frozen," a fairy tale based off of "The Snow Queen" by Hans Christian Anderson.

http://www.neontommy.com/news/2013/11/movie-review-frozen

The number of themes the movie pulls together make it hard for me to decide if this movie is better than Tangled—the previous movie it will be most naturally compared to—but I cannot say it is a bad movie. I would simply say it is not Disney’s best, but that is a very high bar.

http://shepfromtamp.com/2013/11/15/frozen/

Disney is once again leading pack. You won’t need your gloves, Frozen will melt your heart.

http://networkedblogs.com/R8dnu

 

[CorvoSol]

It looks a lot like Tangled, to me.

 

[Twilight Gap]

The more I hear the more excited I get

Spoiler

and wish I'd been in a better mood during initial comments :3

 

[BarrenMind]

Thanks for the impressions. Would you like to share your thoughts about other aspects of the film such as story, characters, music etc?

Also, as a point of reference, how highly do you rate Tangled?

I'll try to be as general as possible but still feel I should spoiler tag in case there are readers avoiding review links:

Spoiler

I haven't read any reviews myself, but I concur with a comment I saw above about the first act. The movie feels oddly unclear about its direction for beyond the first hour. You know what the main conflict is, and of a few other problems that need resolutions, but you're not quite sure if the movie will find an interesting way to tie all those knots. There are some unexpected twists including the climax which was non-traditional and welcome. Luckily until those points arrive in the plot, the movie is rife with a lot of fun moments.

I think Tangled is a near flawless musical and in my top 5 of Disney's. Unfortunately Frozen doesn't have quite as many memorable songs or side characters. Olaf is terrific, but Kristoff is too similar to Flynn / Eugene without being as interesting. The music is wonderful 90% of the time when it doesn't seem overly silly, but at this point there are only two songs that are still sticking with me.

The film has many high points but the standout for me is the visual design. Ice can look real pretty you guys.

Oh yea. Watch in 3D if you can. Again, that short before the film. Man.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Can't we make an actual Frozen review thread?

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

Good to see some positive buzz.
I was going to watch it even if it was bad if only for the meta black and white Mickey short they are showing at the beggining. Thats going to be truly marvelous, but is also good that seems Frozen is also good, i was scared watching the first trailers.

 

[qindarka]

I'll try to be as general as possible but still feel I should spoiler tag in case there are readers avoiding review links:

Thanks again. Glad you liked Olaf, seems like most folks who watched the film thus far enjoyed him.

Can't we make an actual Frozen review thread?

I was thinking it might be a little too early for that. I still have some distrust for early reviews and we only have about 10 or so that would actually be registered on Rotten Tomatoes.

Anyway, the time is not far off from when a proper OT can be made.

 

[Shadow Ranger]

Nice to some good reviews here and there. Really like Tangled, so if this is anything like that then awesome! Wasn't a big fan of Brave (was alright) and didn't like Wreck it Ralph much (wanted to but it was very meh).

Really looking forward to the UK release for this.

 

[Leeness]

♥ ♥ ♥

:'(

Let it Go featured in Disney's World of Color along with some footage. (Not the full song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G31wNCwskI

Omg. World of Colour already makes me weep.

I can't wait to see this, let me hibernate until then.

 

[qindarka]

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/frozen-original-motion-picture/id728903889

You can listen to a good bit of each track of the soundtrack on Itunes.

 

[Pau]

Wait, Brave is progressive and was set as a standard for princesses? wat lol

I'd argue that Mulan personally is my princess measuring stick and even then I know from heart that it's special because it isn't a Disney princess movie.

Brave is progressive because it's the one time a princess movie doesn't have or revolve around a male love interest but is instead about the relationship between two women. Whether or not you enjoyed the movie is a different story, but yeah, it's the first Disney princess movie to do something like that.

 

[Xun]

I still think Brave gets far too much hate on it.

Granted it was badly marketed, and I can see why people felt disappointed by it because of this. But it's a lovely mother/daughter relationship film, and that's fine in my opinion.

 

[Leeness]

I loved Brave and the relationship between daughter and mother. I thought it was beautiful (though I kind of wish they'd left Brenda Chapman on it. I wanted to see her whole vision play out because it was obviously very personal to her).

 

[thecouncil]

my brother, whose friend works for Disney, got to go to the premiere this past Sunday. he brought me back this t-shirt that is supposedly not for sale and was only given out to studio workers.

 

[piratepwnsninja]

my brother, whose friend works for Disney, got to go to the premiere this past Sunday. he brought me back this t-shirt that is supposedly not for sale and was only given out to studio workers.

That's an awesome shirt.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

my brother, whose friend works for Disney, got to go to the premiere this past Sunday. he brought me back this t-shirt that is supposedly not for sale and was only given out to studio workers.

That's a really cool shirt! The first thing I thought of was a Star Wars poster.

 

[Necrovex]

Each passing day fills me with more hype for Frozen. I'm going to see this film with my baby sister and mother, which I haven't done in years. I loved Tangled and Wreck it Ralph, so the likelihood of loving Frozen is pretty damn high. Gimme my musical scenes!!!!

I still think Brave gets far too much hate on it.

Granted it was badly marketed, and I can see why people felt disappointed by it because of this. But it's a lovely mother/daughter relationship film, and that's fine in my opinion.

I really wanted to like Brave, but it truly rubbed me off in the worst ways.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I was thinking it might be a little too early for that. I still have some distrust for early reviews and we only have about 10 or so that would actually be registered on Rotten Tomatoes.

Anyway, the time is not far off from when a proper OT can be made.

When is it coming in the US? Here it's coming out in the 27th.

Brave is progressive because it's the one time a princess movie doesn't have or revolve around a male love interest but is instead about the relationship between two women. Whether or not you enjoyed the movie is a different story, but yeah, it's the first Disney princess movie to do something like that.

I'd argue again that Mulan did it first (focused more in her rather than romance) and better, but "Disney Princess" is a marketing term in the end, and that there are people who like Brave anyway, so nvm.

I'd argue Brother Bear did the bear part better tho

 

[Nev]

I like the male protagonist. She's another generic-looking Pixar girl though; boring.

Also "the biggest animation event since the Lion King" was or should be Spirited Away, not Tangled in Winter.

 

[qindarka]

When is it coming in the US? Here it's coming out in the 27th.

27th in the US as well. I'll have to wait for a month in Australia, though.

I like the male protagonist. She's another generic-looking Pixar girl though; boring.

Also "the biggest animation event since the Lion King" was or should be Spirited Away, not Tangled in Winter.

This isn't a Pixar film and Pixar girls don't look like these anyway. I assume you meant WDAS.

And yeah, yeah, of course Disney are going to hype up their own films with references to previous films of theirs. Why bring Spirited Away into this? If we are going to bring in random references to show how cultured we are, I'll join in and say that Spirited Away wasn't even the best animated film of it's year, that honour going to Millennium Actress.

 

[wildfire]

The snowman really sucks.

You'll be happy to know he dies at the end of the movie by making that big sacrifice to bring summer back to the kingdom.

;(

 

[Lijik]

Question for people who've seen the movie-

Spoiler

I guess at this point its a given that Olaf dies when summer is brought back (unless thats not true?) But does he die die like the firefly in Princess and the Frog, or does the film play sad music while everyone cries for a minute or two before Olaf magically comes back like every other animated film?

 

[Xun]

I loved Brave and the relationship between daughter and mother. I thought it was beautiful (though I kind of wish they'd left Brenda Chapman on it. I wanted to see her whole vision play out because it was obviously very personal to her).

From what I've heard Brenda was getting far too attached to the project (for obvious reasons), and in many ways ruining it.

Sadly we'll never see what the film would've been like with her directing it fully, but it's maybe for the best.

I like the male protagonist. She's another generic-looking Pixar girl though; boring.

Also "the biggest animation event since the Lion King" was or should be Spirited Away, not Tangled in Winter.

CGI characters = Pixar?

I have no idea why people still say this, it's rather strange.

Frozen still retains a Disney renaissance "Glen Keane" look, much like Tangled.

Question for people who've seen the movie-

Spoiler

I guess at this point its a given that Olaf dies when summer is brought back (unless thats not true?) But does he die die like the firefly in Princess and the Frog, or does the film play sad music while everyone cries for a minute or two before Olaf magically comes back like every other animated film?

Spoiler

I've not seen it, but I imagine he magically comes back to life. It's a very Disney thing to do, much like the end of Tangled, but who knows?

Having said that it wouldn't surprise me if he does indeed just melt, which could reflect upon the positive reviews it has been getting.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

So much crow will be served when it comes to Olaf. Book it!

 

[qindarka]

Question for people who've seen the movie-

Spoiler

I guess at this point its a given that Olaf dies when summer is brought back (unless thats not true?) But does he die die like the firefly in Princess and the Frog, or does the film play sad music while everyone cries for a minute or two before Olaf magically comes back like every other animated film?

Spoiler

He begins to melt but is restored by Elsa who puts a magic cloud over him to preserve him in the heat. I don't think the film milks the drama that much

though I've only had access to ancillary material and folks who've watched the film should be able to give more accurate info.

 

[Boss Doggie]

27th in the US as well. I'll have to wait for a month in Australia, though.

Ahh I see, so almost the same time (time zones and stuff).

 

[Nev]

CGI characters = Pixar?

I have no idea why people still say this, it's rather strange.

My bad, I see this (for example) as the generic Pixar girl even though she's not even Pixar. I guess I should start calling them generic animation movies girls. But yeah the point stands, she's generic and uninteresting. In fact I'd say Disney hasn't made a really interesting, distinct and charismatic character since 2009's Dr. Facilier. More 2D please.

And yeah, yeah, of course Disney are going to hype up their own films with references to previous films of theirs. Why bring Spirited Away into this? If we are going to bring in random references to show how cultured we are, I'll join in and say that Spirited Away wasn't even the best animated film of it's year, that honour going to Millennium Actress.

What? You're looking too much into it. If I recall correctly Spirited Away was made a "Disney movie" everywhere outside Japan, so it's technically one of their movies and it's certainly "their" best since The Lion King. It's the most famous Miyazaki film too so it would've been a weak way to show how cultured I am, which obviously wasn't my intention.

Thanks for the Millennium Actress recommendation anyways.

 

[qindarka]

What? You're looking too much into it. If I recall correctly Spirited Away was made a "Disney movie" everywhere outside Japan, so it's technically one of their movies and it's certainly "their" best since The Lion King. It's the most famous Miyazaki film too so it would've been a weak way to show how cultured I am, which obviously wasn't my intention.

Thanks for the Millennium Actress recommendation anyways.

I apologize for the antagonism. Alarm bells start ringing when people bring up Ghibli in a Disney thread but I shouldn't have responded that way.

And yes, Millennium Actress is a fantastic film.

My bad, I see this (for example) as the generic Pixar girl even though she's not even Pixar. I guess I should start calling them generic animation movies girls. But yeah the point stands, she's generic and uninteresting. In fact I'd say Disney hasn't made a really interesting, distinct and charismatic character since 2009's Dr. Facilier. More 2D please.

That's not a typical Pixar girl though. Pixar actually do have a fairly wide range of diversity in their female characters. Compared to WDAS, they are more willing to exaggerate proportions.

Examples:

I'd say that most of the characters in Tangled were more interesting than Facilier who received too little screen-time to make a proper impression.

 

[Boss Doggie]

My bad, I see this (for example) as the generic Pixar girl even though she's not even Pixar. I guess I should start calling them generic animation movies girl. But yeah the point stands, she's generic and uninteresting. In fact I'd say Disney hasn't made a really interesting, distinct and charismatic character since 2009's Dr. Facilier. More 2D please.

I don't think 2D has anything to do with it.

And you're attributing design over character. I'd say Rapunsel is rather different in that she's hands-on and curious rather than "princessy".

 

[Leeness]

From what I've heard Brenda was getting far too attached to the project (for obvious reasons), and in many ways ruining it.

Sadly we'll never see what the film would've been like with her directing it fully, but it maybe for the best.

That's too bad, but I want to see it even if it ended up being a mess haha.

Also loooooooooooooool at some of these imdb Elsa fans.

"The way she touches her fair tresses with those delicate fingers is so deeply affecting. You can't help but want to protect her and take care of her. "

KILLING ME.