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Thirteen adult men and five boys arrested in gangrape of an 11 year old.
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Dreams-Visions
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why is this relevant???
I've never truly understood the thought process behind rape (Aside from insanity).
Is it about sex? power? I don't understand.
I always though rape was about sex, and the attacker simply wanted sex and this was the only way they saw to get it. But then I'd wonder, if it's about sex, then why would you rape an underage child/girl or an elderly woman?
Do they do studies on this shit?
Is it about sex? power? I don't understand.
I always though rape was about sex, and the attacker simply wanted sex and this was the only way they saw to get it. But then I'd wonder, if it's about sex, then why would you rape an underage child/girl or an elderly woman?
Do they do studies on this shit?
Neuromancer
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I'd settle for life in prison for all involved. Let the other inmates get a crack at them, instead.
overcast said:
But this is my point.
What sort of 'power' are you gaining raping a child? It's just mind fucking to think about.
I mean, if you were so inclined to going to go out of your way to rape a woman, wouldn't it be a supermodel of some sort? So within your own warped mind, you've 'achieved' sex with a supermodel?
What sort of satisfaction did your mind get from raping a child or a 90 year old woman?
KO Traveling Hobo
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Vigilante justice means that the fucked up, violent people are in power, which means that shit like this is more likely to happen. Staring into the abyss and all that.krypt0nian said:
Best wishes to the poor victim. She deserves to overcome this.
Apple Sauce
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Vigilante justice can never, ever be condoned but I can't help but wish some people would have the balls to just go and do it once in a while...
Black-Wind
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I don't understand any of this.
Was it like "these boys and men snatched up an 11 yo girl and decided to gang rape her and record it but were all "Oh shit, we didn't know she was 11!" when the cops came for them"?
Was it "11 yo girl running around at night, getting together men and boys to fuck and they were all "Yeah! Lets have group sex and record it!" and they thought she was 18/ legal because of her body"?
Was it "11yo girl who looks legal was running around at night and got pressured into having group sex which was recorded and the men didn't know she was 11"?
What exactly is the angle here and what exactly happened on tape? WHY do people seem shocked that she was 11? Did they think it was ok to rape a legal age woman? Did they think she was doing this by choice?
Was it like "these boys and men snatched up an 11 yo girl and decided to gang rape her and record it but were all "Oh shit, we didn't know she was 11!" when the cops came for them"?
Was it "11 yo girl running around at night, getting together men and boys to fuck and they were all "Yeah! Lets have group sex and record it!" and they thought she was 18/ legal because of her body"?
Was it "11yo girl who looks legal was running around at night and got pressured into having group sex which was recorded and the men didn't know she was 11"?
What exactly is the angle here and what exactly happened on tape? WHY do people seem shocked that she was 11? Did they think it was ok to rape a legal age woman? Did they think she was doing this by choice?
Ohh STFU, its human nature to place blame on everything else but you. WTF does gaf like to take shots at America when ever shit like this happens?Zzoram said:
Dreams-Visions
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also, I'm a bit confused by the 2 articles.
were the suspects in Cleveland arrested by Cleveland police or Texas police? if this took place in Cleveland, why would Texas police do any arresting out of state? Why wouldn't the Cleveland police handle that? and Clevelanders are calling the Texas home of this girl and harassing her? I just want to make sure these are the same cases or different cases.
lastly...I wouldn't necessarily be surprised if the 11 year-old may not have looked much older. I remember when I was in HS there were a couple of 11/12 year old girls at my church that were getting around town. I don't know if it was the attention they got from guys or what, but they'd be known to date 20+ guys who had no clue how young they were. The one I knew well gave all appearances of being 19 or 20 herself and never got carded when buying alcohol/cigarettes or going to clubs. Very mature looking. Very well-endowed. Only in prolonged conversation could you begin to detect them being younger than appearances would suggest. They also always lied about their age.
One of the girls was truly notorious...she went and got with as many guys as she could. She was truly gorgeous. A younger, better looking Mariah Carey. You would have never suspected she was 12 or 13. It was so sad to watch because it was so obvious she was looking for something and hoping to find it in men. I didn't know her too well, so I wouldn't venture a guess into her psychological state...I only remember that she was wild and her grandparents (don't remember where he parents were, but she didn't live with them) were too old to exert any real control over her behavior. She eventually got pregnant (maybe @ 15 or 16) and her grandparents finally shipped her off.
(that commentary has nothing to do with the rape committed, only to suggest that *maybe* they didn't know the person they were assaulting was a child...not that it would have made any difference to these dogs)
were the suspects in Cleveland arrested by Cleveland police or Texas police? if this took place in Cleveland, why would Texas police do any arresting out of state? Why wouldn't the Cleveland police handle that? and Clevelanders are calling the Texas home of this girl and harassing her? I just want to make sure these are the same cases or different cases.
lastly...I wouldn't necessarily be surprised if the 11 year-old may not have looked much older. I remember when I was in HS there were a couple of 11/12 year old girls at my church that were getting around town. I don't know if it was the attention they got from guys or what, but they'd be known to date 20+ guys who had no clue how young they were. The one I knew well gave all appearances of being 19 or 20 herself and never got carded when buying alcohol/cigarettes or going to clubs. Very mature looking. Very well-endowed. Only in prolonged conversation could you begin to detect them being younger than appearances would suggest. They also always lied about their age.
One of the girls was truly notorious...she went and got with as many guys as she could. She was truly gorgeous. A younger, better looking Mariah Carey. You would have never suspected she was 12 or 13. It was so sad to watch because it was so obvious she was looking for something and hoping to find it in men. I didn't know her too well, so I wouldn't venture a guess into her psychological state...I only remember that she was wild and her grandparents (don't remember where he parents were, but she didn't live with them) were too old to exert any real control over her behavior. She eventually got pregnant (maybe @ 15 or 16) and her grandparents finally shipped her off.
(that commentary has nothing to do with the rape committed, only to suggest that *maybe* they didn't know the person they were assaulting was a child...not that it would have made any difference to these dogs)
Dreams-Visions
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I just hate that they'll be supported by $30,000 worth of taxpayer dollars per person. money that could have paid for a college students' entire undergraduate tuition.Tom Penny said:
Mechanical Snowman
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Someone already brought this up but I think it's a disturbing point; how do 18 different people find common ground in the rape of a little girl?
18 people. If rapists and murderers are so anomalous among civilised society then what are the chances of that shit, it doesn't make sense to me.
Also there's no way an 11 yo can look anywhere near legal age, not that that redeems anyone of this crime.
I will follow this story because the whole thing is confusing as hell for me.
18 people. If rapists and murderers are so anomalous among civilised society then what are the chances of that shit, it doesn't make sense to me.
Also there's no way an 11 yo can look anywhere near legal age, not that that redeems anyone of this crime.
I will follow this story because the whole thing is confusing as hell for me.
Bad call, I bet you regret this already.The Hitman said:
Monocle
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This is an important observation. Yes, there are many studies about motivation for rape. Wikipedia provides a decent overview of the subject. Rapists' motives vary and often can't be narrowed down to a single factor. The desire to assert power through sexual degradation is a significant one in many cases, most plainly in the kind you mentioned, where the victim doesn't meet normative sexual standards.Why For? said:
Au revoir.The Hitman said:
Anton Sugar
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Rikyfree said:
Um...
ZephyrFate
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Honestly, pining for vigilante justice does no one any favors. Especially ironic of you to ask when you seem so... peaceful... when it comes to gay rights.krypt0nian said:
Actually, there isn't any irony. You're impulsive all around.
Dreams-Visions
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well. your contribution is worthless.Rikyfree said:
fuck you.Rikyfree said:
Apple Sauce
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Rikyfree said:
Dreams-Visions
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I just watched the video.
Cleveland, TEXAS. I had no idea there was a city in Texas named Cleveland. I thought she was a student from Texas going to school in Cleveland, OHIO. confusion over.
Cleveland, TEXAS. I had no idea there was a city in Texas named Cleveland. I thought she was a student from Texas going to school in Cleveland, OHIO. confusion over.
ZephyrFate
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Wait, THAT is all you're taking away from this?!Dreams-Visions said:
p.s. wow this thread is gonna be full of bans
Mechanical Snowman
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See his post #165, that's not his first post in the thread.ZephyrFate said:
And you said that as if it's compulsory for everyone who posts ITT to display outrage.
ZephyrFate
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Well, yes, I would assume a modicum of it would be nice.Mechanical Snowman said:
Just not the outright stupidity that is "oh hey let's kill them because they're not human even though they did completely human acts"
sixteen-bit
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What horrible excuses for human beings
KO Traveling Hobo
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I think you need to read over the thread, too. Zephyr hasn't been raging.Mechanical Snowman said:
Apple Sauce
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Mechanical Snowman said:
Every Gaffer must express their outrage and how this thread has ruined their entire week + faith in humanity at least once.
These guys are disgusting pieces of shit who deserve everything that is coming to them
Dreams-Visions
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oh, I know it's extremely expensive with all the court fees that come from the many appeals and all that. It's just...I just hate that they get to drain away that kind of money from the tax base.Tom Penny said:
no, good sir. it was an answer to a question I asked a few posts up as Mechanical Snowman so kindly pointed out. thanks for that, Mechanical.ZephyrFate said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26374004&postcount=165
Mechanical Snowman
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I didn't imply that at all, I was just trying to clear something up.KO Traveling Hobo said:
soundahfekz
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UraMallas said:
Your post made me think of "rapers gonna rape".
Dreams-Visions
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holy shit.The Hitman said:
ITT: we are once again reminded that this crop of Juniors needs to go back into the womb for further baking. GAF is not fucking 4Chan. Hope you didn't anticipate your GAF membership for very long.
Appalling.
PhoenixDark
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The Hitman said:
good riddance
KO Traveling Hobo
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You won't fool me with that smiley and MLP avatar. I can feel the hatred emanating from your post.Mechanical Snowman said:I didn't imply that at all, I was just trying to clear something up.
DrForester
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Thread title change so I don't have to read this again ><
Xal-Shoota
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My feelings are, Death Penalty
DrForester
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The Hitman said:
The Technomancer
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How the fuck would you even consider blaming the victim in this case? Let me guess, she was "drunk and dressed provocatively" ...oh wait...
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