This gen is the worst ever and i've been in gaming since year 1998

Optimus Lime said:
Thank fuck for Steam and PC gaming - just need to find a way to exile the streamers, zoomers, and retards who flocked to the platform in an attempt to appear 'hardcore' and we're good to go.
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I like my PC very dearly and I don't need to be gatekept by anybody, leave me out of this...
 
Mowcno said:
What is a "next gen game?"

People cry about wanting things that are unachievable.
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A game that takes advantage of the new hardware given by consoles to bring newer, more innovative and exciting experiences. Think Online play with PS360 or 3D gaming with PS1/N64
 
64bitmodels said:
A game that takes advantage of the new hardware given by consoles to bring newer, more innovative and exciting experiences. Think Online play with PS360 or 3D gaming with PS1/N64
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What innovative exciting experiences would those be?

Like I said people demanding things that are either unachievable or they themselves don't even know what they want.

Wanting a seismic shift in gaming because you have 2020 tech instead of 2013 tech is naive.
 
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I mean, AAA has slowed down quite a bit sure, and a lot of the titles lack creativity or innovation. But indies are definitely carrying the torch. Also, when it comes to graphics you unfortunately kind of did it to yourself if you weren't expecting this gen to really focus on fidelity, lighting, framerate, and raytracing related details. This gen was never meant to blow us away visually, it was only meant to look a bit better in various ways, when I personally think it has accomplished.

Personally I don't know if I'd say it's the "worst" since 1998, there's definitely some solid titles in the AAA/AA/indie realm. But could it be better? Sure! We can only hope it's up from here.
 
Mowcno said:
What innovative exciting experiences would those be?

Like I said people demanding things that are either unachievable or they themselves don't even know what they want.

Wanting a seismic shift in gaming because you have 2020 tech instead of 2013 tech is naive.
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Well the thing is that the hardware jump now certainly isn't going to enable some brand new 4D game to be made. All people want are better simulations from game worlds like superior physics, destructible buildings and better enemy AI/better environment interaction. Instead people seem to be getting prettier versions of the games last gen that take longer to make and hardly expand on the original ideas or gameplay
 
It feels like lots of people judging the whole industry based on the hottest mainstream trends.
There's LOTS of amazing games coming out every month. I can' keep up, and would probably never be able to play everything I want even if no more games came out from here on. And i've never played a GAAS game and I don't play multiplayer games.

The past 4-5 years (which is what people see as the "new generation" I guess?) have had amazing games in almost every genre.

Look a bit further than the absolute mainstream, and the industry is full of amazing experiences. Like it always has been.
 
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64bitmodels said:
Well the thing is that the hardware jump now certainly isn't going to enable some brand new 4D game to be made. All people want are better simulations from game worlds like superior physics, destructible buildings and better enemy AI/better environment interaction. Instead people seem to be getting prettier versions of the games last gen that take longer to make and hardly expand on the original ideas or gameplay
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This gen really is just higher res, FPS and much faster load times than the older consoles. Developers aren't pushing super advanced physics or AI but that's nothing to do with console generations anyway as neither are pc games doing that.

The next shifts in gameplay are most likely going to involve generative AI models and that shift might not rely on local hardware power at all anyway. The tale end of this generation could see the start of it.
 
Mowcno said:
Developers aren't pushing super advanced physics or AI but that's nothing to do with console generations anyway as neither are pc games doing that.
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yeah its a problem on both sides of the aisle.

The issue with this gen isn't the hardware it's the direction game developers choose to go in where instead of making new interesting experiences they choose to Go GaaS or go back to the PAST with a remake
 
FoxMcChief said:
I think the generation has been pretty bad in comparison to the others.
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Remakes and remasters have been the crutches for this gen. Im going to remember it most for Elden Ring, MS buying everyone and all of the layoffs and closures.

GTA6's release will more than likely be the high point. That shit will be historical. So at least there's that to look forward to.
 
Chuck Berry said:
Remakes and remasters have been the crutches for this gen. Im going to remember it most for Elden Ring, MS buying everyone and all of the layoffs and closures.

GTA6's release will more than likely be the high point. That shit will be historical. So at least there's that to look forward to.
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Elden Ring and BG3 for me. Also Mass Effect Remaster. That's my favorite series of all time so to get a complete package like we did was amazing to me. Fixed a lot of issues on the PC versions as well.
 
The best was late 90s, early 00s

Variety was at the center of the industry. Discrimination and politics were not a thing.

You could taste early online gaming on consoles.

You could go to the Arcade and meet people and have a cold beer.

Handheld gaming was at its peek.

During this time, we've seen the very best games releasing.
 
This gen is ass. I was thinking I might buy a ps5 pro but now, I'm not so sure. To play the same ass games, remakes and crossgen ports? Literally the worst gen period. Too much Gaas as well is just stinking up the gen. No creativity what so ever and too much risk aversion.
 
Nah, I think it's fine.

Sure, releases have been stale this gen, if you expect current gen graphics/performance, or if you're expecting the old devs to deliver the same quality they used to.

But imo there's plenty to play, and a constant stream of release of good games overall.
 
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We've gotten some absolute bangers these past few years. That doesn't mean this also hasn't been the worst generation of gaming.

I was born in 1988, started gaming on my brother's Nintendo when I was 4 years old. I remember gaming in the 90s and 2000s incredibly well. Not only were we seeing a constant and meaningful evolution in visual design and fidelity, but also creative experimentation in the birth and refinement of genres. Most of the greatest IPs that still carry on to this day started in that Era. Back then, we didn't wait 4-7 years for the next entry in our favorites series of games. We waited 1-2.

Gaming was absolutely superior in the 90s and 2000s.
 
The industry is in rough shape, but we are getting incredible games every single year. And the indie space is much much better than it has ever been. Development costs, crappy GaaS, subscription type stuff all sucks. But the games are great.

BG3 and Elden Ring are all time masterpieces and there have been dozens of other excellent games the last few years. I think we are doing just fine. You may have to search harder for what you are looking for and sift through some bullshit though.
 
Wait 1998 was a great year. Maybe the derivative platforms from the late 80s early 90s put us in a much dire situation than today. And the Atari and Spectrum era game were trash. But that's about it concerning worst generations.
 
Maybe people are bitter about less exclusives, but I have played a lot of good JRPGs this gen, and all I can say is: I've been eating good.
 
Labadal said:
Maybe people are bitter about less exclusives, but I have played a lot of good JRPGs this gen, and all I can say is: I've been eating good.
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You and me both….
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Guilty_AI said:
Are indie and AA games unplayable for some reason?
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Here's what I said that you felt the need to reply to:

All of which have been completely ignored by video games companies who want to sell their tired, unoriginal shit to as many people as possible, on as many platforms as possible, regardless of how old and bad they are.
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You can't be dumb enough to think I was talking about indies, surely?
 
FunkMiller said:
Here's what I said that you felt the need to reply to:



You can't be dumb enough to think I was talking about indies, surely?
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A. You were the one began the reply chain, so fuck off with this "felt the need to reply to" bullshit.

B. At no moment whatsoever you said "Only AAA games count!"
 
Guilty_AI said:
A. You were the one began the reply chain, so fuck off with this "felt the need to reply to" bullshit.

B. At no moment whatsoever you said "Only AAA games count!"
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Nah mate. You leapt to contradict a point I was making about the AAA games industry, and now you're mad that you didn't read my post properly. You're right I replied to you though, so apologies for that error.
 
FunkMiller said:
Nah mate. You leapt to contradict a point I was making about the AAA games industry, and now you're mad that you didn't read my post properly.
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See, I've always cared about games that push forward the medium in new and exciting ways that improve upon things like character AI, environmental interactivity, gameplay complexity and ingenuity... that kind of thing.
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No requirements of being AAA. Just games.
All of which have been completely ignored by video games companies who want to sell their tired, unoriginal shit to as many people as possible, on as many platforms as possible, regardless of how old and bad they are.
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Reference to bad examples. In fact, there exists companies being unoriginal and bland. Like every gen. All of them? No.
This is the worst games generation of all time, for the simple reason that rampant greed has eclipsed everything else, and nobody wants to do anything experimental, different or new, because it might not make hundreds of millions of dollars.
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I gave you tons of examples that contradict this very statement, with games doing experimental, new, different things that don't aim towards making hundreds of millions of dollars.

I think its you who needs to read your own posts.
 
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1998 = voodoo graphics cards, HL1, the first 3d consoles with vastly different hardware features, controllers trying to figure out analog sticks, e3 was like crack, etc etc
you would sneeze and miss something groundbreaking. it was a crazy, exciting, beautiful time.

today is nothing like it.
ps5 = ps4 with an ssd. ta-da. ps5 and xbox are basically the same hardware. remakes and safe sequels. boring ass showcases on youtube.

there're a bunch of good games today, dont get me wrong, but goddamn 1998 and that whole era was ELECTRIC and wrote the check that future gens would cash.
 
For me, I rate it based on hype and excitement leading up to launch and then following go live, people talking about the game. Maybe over time we've become desensitized. Everything feels leveled and calculated with minimal surprises-the kinds of elements that generate the excitement and hype and drives conversations for months to come. I've been gaming since 1994 and I miss being wow'd.
 
I agree. At least based on AAA offerings. I feel like this is the case in almost every medium now. Movies, music, video games - the big guys are making mostly trash
 
Klik said:
Well GTA 6 delay basically just sets in stone for the worst console generation ever..
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Yes let's just ignore great games like Expedition 33, this is worse gen because of graphics and GTA VI got delayed…..oh the humanity!

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Bla bla bla ... its been great for me . I'm the kind of person who looks for the goods in everything , not just be a hater . So every year and every gens were great for me , that's why I'm feeling bad for people like OP .

I'm currently playing Expedition 33 , FF7 Rebirth , Space Marine 2 , they are all great games . Just finished Silent Hill 2 which was such an amazing remake .

Still yet to catch up on Metaphor Refantazio , Black Myth Wukong , Elden Ring Shadow of Erdtree DLC , Hundred line Last Defense Academy , RE4 Remake , Khazan , Persona 3 Reload , Two point Museum , Project Hospital , Lies of P , Cities Skyline 2 , V Rising . Still yet to finish Avowed , Dragon Dogma 2 , Baldur's Gate 3 , Diablo 4 , Path of Exle 2 , Last Epoch

And then there are new games coming like Wuchang , Stellar Blade (PC) , Ninja Gaiden 4 , Vampire Masquerade 2 , Gears of War E-day , Cronos The New Dawn , No Rest for the Wicked , Doom the Dark Age , Titan Quest 2 , Gothic Remake , New Onimusha , Crimson Desert

Like holy shit what else can you ask for ,
 
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Chukhopops said:
IMO just 2023 alone was better than the entire PS3/360/Wii generation. This was the true worst gen ever and I've been playing since the NES era.

This gen also was the comeback gen for most JP devs (except Square lmao), for Nintendo and it even brought the first « market ready » VR headset with the Quest 3.

Good stuff overall.
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This is my take as well, also been gaming since NES (also played Atari a decent bit at the time). And even speaking of the immediate future, very excited for Nightreign, the Kunitsu-Gami update and Death Stranding 2, all right around the corner. Probably the most satisfied with gaming I've ever been.

Hohenheim said:
It feels like lots of people judging the whole industry based on the hottest mainstream trends.
There's LOTS of amazing games coming out every month. I can' keep up, and would probably never be able to play everything I want even if no more games came out from here on. And i've never played a GAAS game and I don't play multiplayer games.

The past 4-5 years (which is what people see as the "new generation" I guess?) have had amazing games in almost every genre.

Look a bit further than the absolute mainstream, and the industry is full of amazing experiences. Like it always has been.
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Also, I don't even think this is true tbh. Just off the top of my head, Capcom, Nintendo and Fromsoftware have been killing it this gen. But people will point to a new Assassin's Creed being bad and I really don't get it. I haven't payed attention to those games in over 10 years, they've always sucked.
 
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I'm seriously considering selling my PS5 and going Nintendo only the next 8 years. I'm sick and tired of the abysmal output of games I'm interested in. Switch 2 could be a nice little companion to fill my gaming needs.
 
With Sony porting their games to PC and the PSN store being so expensive I buy everything on some steam keys sites, which makes the games cheaper AND tax free if you're in Canada!

Example (expedition 33)
Price on PSN: 66$cad + 15% sales tx = 76$!
Price on steam keys site: 48$ ... No tx or anything!

This is almost 30$ more!

The same happens with Sony made games, but they get a delayed release.

So nope, no more, I'm about to sell the ps5 while it's worth something.
 
Way too much money, resources and studios have been wasted in trying to make the next big GaaS.
And although a few have had success, many more have failed. Often, with the result being we get a bad game and a studio closure.
 
Get prepared for more disappointment as diminishing returns kick in.

I disagree though. Games blow my mind now with what I see on screen. Maybe it's just cause I'm older.
 
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