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[Foreign Jackass]

Maybe I'm retarded, but there's too many buttons on my 360's controller, and the PS3 just added buttons on their controllers too. Last gen's controllers (GC and PS2) had enough buttons for everything. Stop adding buttons!!!!

*Wii isn't concerned by this rant.

EDIT : I DIDN'T OWN AN XBOX. THIS IS A GENERAL COMPARISON. IT IS EASY TO UNDERSTAND. IF YOU FAIL TO SEE THE AUGMENTATION OF THE NUMBER OF BUTTONS BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT GENERATIONS OF HARDWARE, YOU ARE A RETARD. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

 

[blame space]

Good thread.

 

[Razoric]

Maybe I'm retarded, but there's too many buttons on my 360's controller, and the PS3 just added buttons on their controllers too. Last gen's controllers (GC and PS2) had enough buttons for everything. Stop adding buttons!!!!

*Wii isn't concerned by this rant.

maybe?

 

[Illuminati]

More buttons on PC gamepads are always welcome.

 

[Sgt. Killjoy]

sorry, you are retarded.

 

[DarienA]

Maybe I'm retarded, but there's too many buttons on my 360's controller, and the PS3 just added buttons on their controllers too. Last gen's controllers (GC and PS2) had enough buttons for everything. Stop adding buttons!!!!

*Wii isn't concerned by this rant.

...what buttons got added to the PS3 controller over the PS2 DS that you'll actually use during gameplay?

 

[Dante]

All right, now this is just getting ridiculous. :/

 

[Forceatowulf]

The more the marrier.

I've never found any controller to be confusing.

 

[Odysseus]

There are more buttons on 360/PS3 controllers?

I mean... there's the one button in the center to bring up a menu... that's it, right?

What controllers need is less waggle.

 

[Campster]

But without more buttons, how can we be continually more and more elitist?

 

[Mac the KNife]

360 has the perfect amount of buttons

 

[Grifter]

not retarded at all. 8 buttons is pushing it already and overwhelming to the non-gamers that check out my games

 

[Razoric]

The more the marrier.

I've never found any controller to be confusing.

 

[Unison]

 

[Foreign Jackass]

not retarded at all. 8 buttons is pushing it already and overwhelming to the non-gamers that check out my games

YAY

Although I must admit my thread is retarded in its look, writing and intent, its message is damn right

 

[tanasten]

Go back and play the NES men.

More buttons are ever needed. It's about the designers, not the developers of the pad. That's why the PC will be the best platform for some genres like Strategy games or sims. I don't know if the Wii can simulate multiple inputs by gesturing, but I don't think that the fever button the Wiimote has are going to be sufficient.

Let's wait and see.

P.S: I don't think that all the buttons on the PS3 are needed.

 

[the year 20XX]

If only there were some console that used... I don't know, some other kind of input system. Surely someone has noticed this and developed a different kind of controller in response to this trend. I guess that hasn't happened, or else this thread would be perceived as shilling for whatever company that was...

 

[Campster]

You people make those interested in Human Computer Interactions and humane interfaces cry.

 

[DarienA]

YAY

Although I must admit my thread is retarded in its look, writing and intent, its message is damn right

Hi... what new buttons got added in this new generation vs. the PS2/Xbox generation?

 

[Safe Bet]

Hint:

Developers don't have to use them.

 

[Variable]

I always seem to have problems remembering the button layout in Splinter Cell games.

 

[F#A#Oo]

Yeah...I agree...

Is it any wonder that so many peoples stopped playing games post-NES and post-SNES era...

 

[Campster]

Hint:

Developers don't have to use them.

This is the most sane thing posted in this thread thus far.

However, I don't trust 95% of developers to understand this.

 

[Forceatowulf]

Never used it. So I wouldn't know if it were confusing or not. By the looks of it I doubt I would have much trouble. But I sure as hell would rather use the current control types lol.

 

[Liquid]

i swear i was thinking about the same thing 2 days ago. :lol

atari 1
nes 2
sms 2
genesis 3
snes 6
genny arcade 6
saturn 6
playstation 8?
n64 8?
dreamcast 8
ps2 10 (analog clicks) plus d pad
xbox 8? plus d pad
360-8 plus analog clicks, plus d pad :lol

 

[Foreign Jackass]

...what buttons got added to the PS3 controller over the PS2 DS that you'll actually use during gameplay?

I don't know, but they'll find a way to use them... Every freakin' button on my Xbox 360 is used with GRAW, and I find it very confusing.. there's like the 4 buttons on the dpad, the 2 clicks of the analogs, both analogs, all 4 triggers are used, the back button, the start button and the 4 normal buttons. I mean come on! I get shot while I'm looking at my controller.. I know that I'm gonna get used to it, but it needs to stop.

 

[Johnny]

I concur, who needs 4 shoulder buttons for example? Just give me 2 triggers. Select/back needs to go too. We're kind of stuck with them now that everything's backwards compatible though.

 

[Razoric]

Yeah...I agree...

Is it any wonder that so many peoples stopped playing games post-NES and post-SNES era...

Um considering games are more popular than ever... what?

 

[impirius]

Hi... what new buttons got added in this new generation vs. the PS2/Xbox generation?

The middle Xbox button

AND

The controller sync button

AND

The button-like thing you press to pop out the battery pack

 

[Safe Bet]

This is the most sane thing posted in this thread thus far.

However, I don't trust 95% of developers to understand this.

Jaffe may be on to something...

Edit: I think Gears is taking it easy on the buttons required too (context-sensitive action button), but not sure...

 

[Liquid]

i swear i havent memorized a button layout since the DC. i just gave up after that. I cant even input codes without looking. it is getting too damn complicated.

 

[F#A#Oo]

Um considering games are more popular than ever... what?

Keep telling yourself that...

 

[Razoric]

i swear i was thinking about the same thing 2 days ago. :lol

atari 1
nes 2
sms 2
genesis 3
snes 6
genny arcade 6
saturn 6
playstation 8?
n64 8?
dreamcast 8
ps2 10 (analog clicks) plus d pad
xbox 8? plus d pad
360-8 plus analog clicks, plus d pad :lol

"hello I have analog sticks too"

 

[Foreign Jackass]

If only there were some console that used... I don't know, some other kind of input system. Surely someone has noticed this and developed a different kind of controller in response to this trend. I guess that hasn't happened, or else this thread would be perceived as shilling for whatever company that was...

*Wii isn't concerned by this rant.

And I'm not planning on buying one right now. We need the right combination of good input model, good technology and good games. I don't THINK Wii is the good combination, but I might be wrong, we'll see. In fact, the best combination probably was the SNES.

 

[DarienA]

I don't know, but they'll find a way to use them... Every freakin' button on my Xbox 360 is used with GRAW, and I find it very confusing.. there's like the 4 buttons on the dpad, the 2 clicks of the analogs, both analogs, all 4 triggers are used, the back button, the start button and the 4 normal buttons. I mean come on! I get shot while I'm looking at my controller.. I know that I'm gonna get used to it, but it needs to stop.

...

So when is someone going to just come out and admit this is a poorly implemented viral marketing Wii post!!!!

 

[Ranger X]

Hint:

Developers don't have to use them.

/thread

 

[Bebpo]

We still need more buttons and/or smarter people designing interfaces for games.

When I'm playing Splinter Cell on X360's controller with a million buttons and I STILL need to REPEATEDLY ACCESS THE SELECT MENU (with yay! loading!) TO GET TO THINGS something is wrong!.

We have to get to the point where you can have deep/complex games that are able to make everything work with the buttons available. R6 demo was pretty nice as holding back/select map the map pop up instead of you having to go to a seperate menu to see it.

So since a lot of developers still make terrible interfaces, I guess we need more buttons

 

[Razoric]

Keep telling yourself that...

Yeah, I mean I wouldn't want things like facts to hurt your case right? SNES most popular console ever. :lol :lol

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Does the 360 controller really have more buttons? I thought it had the same amount since the black and white became the bumpers.

 

[Tiktaalik]

I'd rather have one set of shoulder buttons and 6 face buttons than the current "norm" of two sets of shoulder buttons and 4 face buttons.

If you look at complex games like Rainbow Six Vegas, a number of buttons have multiple uses if you hold them down, and the game makes use of the dpad as well.

 

[Tieno]

How many buttons does a Wiimote have?

 

[Razoric]

Does the 360 controller really have more buttons? I thought it had the same amount since the black and white became the bumpers.

The only extra button is has is the "Home" button. I guess that's too confusing for some people.

 

[DarienA]

Does the 360 controller really have more buttons? I thought it had the same amount since the black and white became the bumpers.

The only new button is the one that brings up the X360 menu.

 

[Foreign Jackass]

...

So when is someone going to just come out and admit this is a poorly implemented viral marketing Wii post!!!!

Sorry I thought you already knew about the triggers that CLICK on the PS3 controller. So they're adding two buttons again. L4 and R4. It's on the front page.

 

[jiggle]

How are you able to type with a keyboard? :lol

 

[DarienA]

Sorry I thought you already knew about the triggers that CLICK on the PS3 controller. So they're adding two buttons again. L4 and R4. It's on the front page.

That was mentioned when the controller first came out but it generally hasn't been mentioned since, because no one has implemented the click functionality in a game yet... that anyones knows of.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

The only new button is the one that brings up the X360 menu.

Yeah, exactly. It's not related to gameplay at all as well.

So I don't really follow the point of this thread then.

 

[Rud13inJapan]

Good thread.

I think that has yet to be determined. I'm waiting to hear what Toups has to say.

 

[Mrbob]

Yes. I just want a win button.

 

[Foreign Jackass]

That was mentioned when the controller first came out but it generally hasn't been mentioned since, because no one has implemented the click functionality in a game yet... that anyones knows of.

I must mention I didn't own an Xbox. But I already thought the Gamecube was enough buttons as it was. The 360 (and Xbox, then) have too many buttons. I still love mah 360 (bought it 4 days ago), I'm just sayin', there are just too many buttons on these!