Tim Miller on Deadpool success: "Nobody saw this. No one planned this."

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The cheaer budget and jokes about it were part of the charm. Hopefully they pull a 22 jump street and dont go too crazy w bloating the budget.
 
Pretty decent PR framing Deadpool as the people's champ of comic book movies. Nerds are going to galvanize people even more with the sequel
 
Pop-O-Matic said:
Yeah, but that counterprogramming can only take you so far.
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I'm not arguing the opposite. I'm just saying they had reason to believe that'd be a good place to put it. Not that they had reason to believe it'd do what it did.

Again, nobody really saw this coming. Except for that one dude upthread who was so convinced that he can't believe people could be surprised by this level of success at all.
 
Garlador said:
The most profitable superhero film of all time, and it's not even remotely close. Just look at this craziness:


They made a film with practically the salary RDJ alone had for Age of Ultron... Very happy for the whole team who fought so hard to get this film made.
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I don't know why but that dip for ff4 made me laugh however the movie made me cry :(
 
hawk2025 said:
The funny thing about the Valentine's Day posters is that they are kinda true.
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Yeah, Deadpool and his girl actually had one of the better relationships and romances out of any of these superhero movies. It's not much, but it at least does a good job of establishing that they love each other, so it gives context as to why he would sign up for the "cancer treatment" and the pain of him avoiding her afterwards.
 
Wolfgunblood Garopa said:
I don't know if many people under the age of 35 read Superman or Wonder Woman comics, or even like the characters.
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It doesn't really matter if they read the comics at this point. People know what Superman's deal is, they either want to see a movie with him in or it they don't. And a big part of that is going to come down to how good the movie is and how good Superman is within the confines of that film
 
Still think it's a shame they aren't doing the Unrated cut on blu-ray anymore, they talked about a lot of stuff they cut and I think they could have pushed it even further for a Unrated cut. Hopefully the deleted scenes will show some of the great stuff they left out though.

Also hope the commentary is done by Reynolds in character, if not, that's a wasted opportunity. The marketing was really great and things like that should have been an obvious thing to do, if they didn't, it's like they went "oh the movie was successful, so we can stop trying now."

The UK steelbook looks great though.
 
Stinkles said:
Why? Tim directed a great movie. Genuinely confused as to why you'd say that.
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Sephzilla said:
Deadpool: "Hey guys, thanks for coming to the sequel. I'm just sitting here literally burning the budget for this movie because Fox had the balls to doubt me the first time"
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Wow, this is pretty on point.
“I don’t know what the fuck’s going on here. I’ve never seen this before. I don’t know what this number is.”
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LMFAO!
 
My friend was saying the movie turned out so good because Fox literally didn't give a fuck about it. They were very hands off and let them do whatever they wanted.

Why? Because it was cheap.

But every high budget picture? They get into everything.
 
And to think this was without opening in China, and no 3D.

They took a $50 million budget, created one of the GOAT movie marketing campaigns, the perfect star, and made a movie that was consistently entertaining from beginning to end. I never thought it would be a bomb, but I didn't see all these broken records coming from it.

And it's all thanks to a leaked video that the internet went nuts over.
 
Who could have thought coming from pure bombs, Ryan with Deadpool a character nobody knows would come out with this kinda of success.

The people that are not surprised about this are straight up Nostradamus descendants.
 
Yautja_Warrior said:
Still think it's a shame they aren't doing the Unrated cut on blu-ray anymore, they talked about a lot of stuff they cut and I think they could have pushed it even further for a Unrated cut. Hopefully the deleted scenes will show some of the great stuff they left out though.

Also hope the commentary is done by Reynolds in character, if not, that's a wasted opportunity. The marketing was really great and things like that should have been an obvious thing to do, if they didn't, it's like they went "oh the movie was successful, so we can stop trying now."

The UK steelbook looks great though.
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IIRC most of the cuts were done prior to filming. Tim ran a very lean show to keep to the budget.
 
Beyond word of mouth, the marketing crew deserves a huge bonus. Best marketing I've ever seen, for anything, ever. They understood their audience, the character, the movie, all of it, and absolutely nailed it.
 
jmdajr said:
My friend was saying the movie turned out so good because Fox literally didn't give a fuck about it. They were very hands off and them do whatever they wanted.

Why? Because it was cheap.

But every high budget picture? They get into everything.
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It's very possible that now that Fox executives have realized there's a shit ton of money to be made, they might stick their nose in and "make suggestions". Another scenario is that they have no idea exactly why the movie was so successful, so they trust Miller and crew to do their thing to ensure that the sequel meets expectations.

Fox was able to allow First Class and DOFP to be good movies. They don't micro-manage, over-produce, and over-plan like Warner Bros. does right now.

Violence Jack said:
And it's all thanks to a leaked video that the internet went nuts over.
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That's what warms my heart the most. Fox didn't believe in the film, so "somebody" (either Miller or Reynolds) leaks the footage online years after the fact and people go nuts over it. Then it rises from the ashes to become the highest grossing R-rated film of all time worldwide (and only $9 million away from Passion of the Christ domestically).
 
KenzinFive said:
It's very possible that now that Fox executives have realized there's a shit ton of money to be made, they might stick their nose in and "make suggestions". Another scenario is that they have no idea exactly why the movie was so successful, so they trust Miller and crew to do their thing to ensure that the sequel meets expectations.

Fox was able to allow First Class and DOFP to be good movies. They don't micro-manage, over-produce, and over-plan like Warner Bros. does right now.
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Pretty surprising really! Because god damn x3 and wolverine origins were..not good.
 
freenudemacusers said:
What surprised me more than anything was the depth of the relationship in the movie. Sincere and believable. Compare this with Thor and Jane. Yeesh.
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Yeah, before release I assumed all the Valentine's stuff was obvious counterprogramming. That's not wrong, exactly, but the movie's romantic elements were surprisingly pretty sweet and sincere. The obvious joke turning up to be not an actual joke was quite funny and unexpected.
 
I distinctly remember a phone call from someone at Fox and they said, “I don’t know what the fuck’s going on here. I’ve never seen this before. I don’t know what this number is.”
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To put this in context, Deadpool had the highest opening weekend of any Fox film in history. It beat Avatar, Star Wars prequels, and all X-Men films.

So yeah, that person at Fox really hadn't seen that before.
 
I was on the fence until I saw the Red Band trailer. After that, I was ready as hell to watch this movie. Not gonna lie, in terms of drama in a comic book film, Deadpool's cancer diagnosis scene shitted on everything else that's ever been put out.
 
KenzinFive said:
Fox was able to allow First Class and DOFP to be good movies. They don't micro-manage, over-produce, and over-plan like Warner Bros. does right now.
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Nah, the DCEU is Snyder's mess. If anything, WB should be held accountable for not stepping in and having a little oversight. After 300, they gave him carte blanche and it's been nothing but disappointments and flops ever since.

See also the Wachowskis after The Matrix.
 
CaviarMeths said:
Nah, the DCEU is Snyder's mess. If anything, WB should be held accountable for not stepping in and having a little oversight. After 300, they gave him carte blanche and it's been nothing but disappointments and flops ever since.

See also the Wachowskis after The Matrix.
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I think M. Night is the king. But his movies still make a profit! Somehow....
 
As a very casual comic fan (sort of liked them as a kid) I find the continual success of these movies, back to back to back surprising. But once you accept that as a given, no, I'm not surprised this movie was a success.

Again coming from someone with little to no interest or knowledge about comics Deadpool is more recognizable than Antman or Guardians of The Galaxy.
 
bananafactory said:
It doesn't really matter if they read the comics at this point. People know what Superman's deal is, they either want to see a movie with him in or it they don't. And a big part of that is going to come down to how good the movie is and how good Superman is within the confines of that film
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Young people buy Deadpool comics, though. They're probably one of the most commonplace comics I've seen laying around at people's houses. Even people who don't really get into comics. More people connect more with that character than the traditional, old characters like Superman and Wonder Woman. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the character being a lot of fun. There's nothing fun or funny about Superman and Wonder Woman.
 
WhiteRabbitEXE said:
IIRC most of the cuts were done prior to filming. Tim ran a very lean show to keep to the budget.
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Doesn't change the fact they talked about doing a harder cut for blu-ray and Miller knows this, as he just recently said "I hate to be all Joss Whedon but the Unrated cut isn't happening" (a reference to Joss teasing the Age of Ultron extended cut for blu-ray that was also cancelled)

Hopefully, now they know the audience is there, they can push the sequel even harder though and I'm looking forward to seeing more Deadpool on screen.
 
TheOMan said:
It boggles my mind that these guys are surprised by this.
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If you are telling me that you knew the movie was going to make almost 800 million i am going to call you a liar to your face.

I don't doubt people said it was going to be successful, just about everyone on GAF including myself knew it was going to make at least 200 million and that it was going to be a box office success and fairly praised but 760 million? That was a surprise to everyone who did box office predictions BEFORE the movie came out.
 
Sephzilla said:
The CG/makeup for Cable's arm progressively gets worse as the movie goes on because the budget keeps getting burnt.
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Sounds like the pitch for "The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made":

The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made! is an idea for a film that Jim Henson, Jerry Juhl and Frank Oz first developed in 1985.

Juhl, the Muppets' head writer from the late 1970s through the the 90s, discussed the film's concept in a 1998 interview with Muppet Central:

"There was a project for a Muppet movie that we kept returning to. Jim and I worked on it and just loved it. It grew out of the fact that Jim was talking about finances and if we did another Muppet movie at the time, it would need to be done inexpensively, since we were using bigger and bigger budgets for all our other projects...So we conceived of a movie slated as "The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made." That was the original working title and that later became the subtitle with the title along the lines of, "Into the Teeth of the Demons of Death."

The idea being that this was a film that Gonzo directed. Kermit was too busy so when Gonzo asked, Kermit said, "Sure, go ahead. I can't take on the responsibilities behind the scenes at this time, but I'll perform in it." So Gonzo wrote this cheesy, terrible plot that made absolutely no sense whatsoever about something being stolen that led to a chase around the world. Unfortunately Gonzo blows half the movie's budget on the opening titles! So as the film progresses, it gets cheaper and cheaper where they're using a shot of the same street corner for every city in the world! We were still talking about this project in the last meeting I ended up having with Jim.

Every now and then, we still bring up the movie. Six months ago, Frank had said to me, "You know, there's still something in that movie, it would be a lot of fun to do." One thing that kept it from happening though was that for "The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made," it still turned out to be expensive to shoot. Things like a tranquil island blowing up with a volcano and such."

Additional plot details were recounted in Jim Henson: The Biography: Gonzo's film, Into the Jaws of the Demons of Death, would eventually get cheaper and cheaper in looks, turning into "black-and-white Super 8 film," then to a slideshow and storyboards. Eventually, Gonzo would gain some corporate sponsorship, ending the movie in hi-def widescreen.
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