A quick Google search shows dozens of websites, critics, and movie sights speculating the film might underperform. Remember, Deadpool was also coming off of Kick-Ass 2, which spectacularly underperformed while also being an R-rated comic superhero film. Lots of critics and big sites said that it bombing was actually possible and were worried about it.
Tim Miller on Deadpool success: "Nobody saw this. No one planned this."
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A quick Google search shows dozens of websites, critics, and movie sights speculating the film might underperform. Remember, Deadpool was also coming off of Kick-Ass 2, which spectacularly underperformed while also being an R-rated comic superhero film. Lots of critics and big sites said that it bombing was actually possible and were worried about it.
Frozenprince
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LOL nobody saw this shit making nearly a Billion dollars.
If someone said they did, they're on fucking drugs. Bad ones.
Honestly I'm still stunned the damn thing even got made. If not for that Fox employee leaking that demo reel, it likely never does either.
Crazy, legitimately crazy.
Frozenprince
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God damn right.
Yeah, I have to say that the trailer didn't pique my interest at all, but I actually enjoyed the film itself.
there was nothing risky about this movie. the humor was safe teenage raunchy shit you see in American Pie movies. the marvel formula was heavily at play still. nothing too out there.
so, really what is risky here? The fact that people are calling this risky is a real indicator of how fucked Hollywood is and how little risk it actually takes.This is a MARVEL product, with a recognizable character that has legions of fans, come on.
yes, big numbers. bigger than expected which worries me because if this is what hollywood considers risky....
so, really what is risky here? The fact that people are calling this risky is a real indicator of how fucked Hollywood is and how little risk it actually takes.This is a MARVEL product, with a recognizable character that has legions of fans, come on.
yes, big numbers. bigger than expected which worries me because if this is what hollywood considers risky....
I mean it's a marvel character but marvel does not own the movie rights. It was a fox movie.
Or am I wrong and marvel actually helped make this movie?
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Dude, the highest grossing American Pie movie made $287.6m globally and had half the budget of Deadpool.
Your argument already fell flat on its face in your second sentence. Let alone the entire rest of the post.
um... the american pie reference had nothing to do with what it made. i was talking about the comedy.
Rimon-hanit
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Still seems crazy to me. Loved it though.
Have they releasing any edition with cool nonsense on Blu-Ray?
Have they releasing any edition with cool nonsense on Blu-Ray?
Maybe movie studios will stop making shitty movies with good scenes to trick people into watching movies with spoiler ridden commercials and instead make good movies that depend on word of mouth. Movie reviews are nice and all but if a friend recommends a movie I'm more likely to see it.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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You used "has the humor of a movie with half the budget that topped out well below $300m" as part of your argument as to why it's "safe". My point is... That's not a good way to prove the movie is safe.
what are you even saying? american pie is a movie franchise that came out over a decade ago. it has raunchy teenage humor, much like the humor in Deadpool which is the main reason it's R-rated. My argument here is that nothing Deadpool does is risky. It's only risky in the context of the current Hollywood climate which i believe is a cause for serious concern for film in the foreseeable future.
Cabbagehead
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It's like we watched a different movie. Anyway can you make it anymore clear you dislike the film. Like you just compared American pie with Deadpool. At least you could have help you're case with kickass. Plus this movie says nothing about the foreseeable future. People enjoyed the movie and it was new enough for a lot of people and what Hollywood should take away from this. Is that the should make good movies and do a better job marketing.
It was the whole package that made the movie work not the bits and pieces. Yet you want to dingle out those things with a stick as sub par or not risky enough.
Not noticing the real risky parts to this movie, which aren't what you think. Which seemed to work and produced a big box office. That Kickass wish it had.
Mr. Pointy
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I honestly thought Deadpool was going to do pretty much what Kingsman did, and many gaffers weren't even expecting that.
The fact that it'll beat Batman in the US is... unprecedented.
The fact that it'll beat Batman in the US is... unprecedented.
You make a good point. Kickass already did this and did it better actually. So, again, what was so "risky" here? Maybe i'm missing it, explain it to me. And yeah the marketing did a great job, they owe their success to those marketing people, and that's why Ryan Reynolds decided to pay them a visit to show his gratitude. And that worries me even more though because with the right marketing and prolonged campaign you can manage to take a turd *cough* TFA *cough* and fool everybody.
The outlook is bleek.
poppabk
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We are talking financial risk, not thematic risk. Kick ass didn't make enough in global box office to probably even cover the production budget of Deadpool, and with the advertising if Deadpool had done kick ass numbers it would have been a huge bomb.
Cabbagehead
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Both are great movies. One doing it better or not is moot
A completely unhinged character, with a sick twisted personality and crude humor that really thinks hes funny as the lead. But who is also extremely self aware and also a murder. An lives with a black blind drug addicted.
Whose going to connect to that?
The IP was largely unknown and was helmed by the fading or never bright star that is Ryan Reynolds as the main. An even though it seems small; a movie with a sixty million dollar budget. But even some decent to good movies can't even make that budget back or more then that to break even.
Its another superhero origin story and i thought the general public was tired of that. But they introduced him in a interesting way and made it work.
The studio and the even the people behind the film were unsure if the movie would work. While it set in limbo for a decade, that mindset continued all the way up to the finish product more or less and still saw it as a potential flop. Another Kickass risk, which didn't make a whole lot of money in return and barley made enough to get a super sub par sequel that did worse. Then you got Kingman's that did good, but in some ways it's a flash in a pan, to other studios i'm sure.
Either way Deadpool cleared the risk of being, a rated R anti-hero/superhero movie that was profitable and huge to the masses.
The outlook is only bleek because you don't like those movies. Lol
I'm more worried that people ate up the horse crap that was Jurassic World that made billions. Now that should keep you up at night. Not Deadpool and TFA which were great to good movies that did what they promised and delivered the goods or at least had something going for it.
Shit like Frozen and JW is what scares me.
I'm not saying it's not an achievement that it pulled in that kind of money, it is. I applaud the marketing department. But lets not kid ourselves here. This is still a Marvel product.
The general public will never cease to amaze me. How can anyone not be tired of superhero origin stories is beyond my understanding.
Every movie is a risk, no one knows what's going to work but when a medium that's supposed to be about creativity becomes all about money first and creativity second that's when shit starts to suck.
regardless if i like it or not the outlook is bleak for bold original and challenging material. summer blockbusters have been considerably bad for about 10+ years now, it's only going to get worse from here. Everything is going to be a sequel or have a number beside it. Now the "risk" takers are those that take smaller brands and try to make them megabrands, not those that create completely new material.
See, i don't know where the hell your head is at. If you say Jurassic World was terrible, but TFA was not then wtf is going on here. They're both the same turd of a movie. TFA actually being far worse.
I don't know anymore, i really do not because when i look into some of the "critics" on a site like RottenTomatoes and i read their bios and it says things like "watching spider-man in 2002 changed my life, i became passionate about the medium" i'm at a loss for words. Spiderman was the kicking off point for a critic on RT... no wonder we're seeing these review scores so high for such terrible pop culture movies.
And considering millennials are obsessed with aggregate online review scores a site like RT carries soo much weight in the perception of what is good or not. Fuck, the medium is really doomed.
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