Yeah, that surprised me too. I imagined that with the success of The Walking Dead, and the train that is superhero movies not coming close to stopping, Kirkman would have leapt at the chance to turn some of that goodwill and industry connections to Invincible.
Tim Miller on Deadpool success: "Nobody saw this. No one planned this."
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Yeah, that surprised me too. I imagined that with the success of The Walking Dead, and the train that is superhero movies not coming close to stopping, Kirkman would have leapt at the chance to turn some of that goodwill and industry connections to Invincible.
GuitarAtomik
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MTV was making an animated show at one point but that obviously fell through. I think budget is one of the biggest reasons it hasn't happened yet. That and Brian K Vaughan is very protective about how his IP gets adapted.
Robert Kirkman created Invincible. I'm not sure how protective he is. Invincible, of turned into a cartoon, definitely needs to go the mature, adult swim route. The comic starts off fairly light hearted and PG, maybe PG-13, but quickly delves into R rated territory. It really is one of the best superhero comics out there, especially when it comes to surprising readers with "anything can happen."
EDIT: I'm not looking forward to the tone def copycats from other studios. It's going to be like Pulp Fiction all over again. Every screenwriter/director/studio with a quirky idea and a script full of "f-bombs," thought they had the next Pulp Fiction on their hands, without understanding why that movie worked the way it did (full disclosure, I'm not a fan of Pulp Fiction at all).
I'm dreading the influx of "raunchy," "adult" superhero movies filled with anti-heroes and tons of cursing and blood and gore. Some of them may even be fun, but I highly doubt it. Like "Bad Pussy" jokes on NeoGAF, I imagine Hollywood is going to run the R-rated Superhero flick into the ground.
PHOENIXZERO
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I would love to see how Fox's accountants will make it look like Deadpool ended up actually losing money.
The Hermit
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Unbelievable is the right word
Unfortunately, I think you're right. The guys in the boardroom can't wrap their head around why the movie succeeded, so they just look at what's on paper. R-rating, violence, boobies, and blood. Key to victory, right? It's a shame, because most superhero/comic movies are just fine as PG-13. Deadpool needed to be R to be a Deadpool movie.
The OP nails it, though... the film succeeded on word of mouth. I didn't see it opening weekend, it was only after I heard that "it's actually good". That sort of thing just doesn't happen anymore, and the studio sure as shit won't bet on it. They market the ever-loving hell out of a movie to try and get a big opening weekend, and after that it doesn't matter if the film's actually good or not.. by the time any bad word of mouth starts to spread, they've already made their money and they'll just do it again.
Pretty much. I guarantee the suits have their assistants poring over every edgy, violent, and extreme comic property this very moment.
I'm expecting a "Bludwolf" movie announcement any day now.
The Artisan
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overpaid tool?
hydragonwarrior
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Snyder to direct next Bloodpool film confirmed.
I wonder if Ryan Reynolds trolls Tom Rothman.
Accountants could make it seem like like Avater or Gone with the wind lost money. No joke.
Crazy after the years Ryan has been trying get this movie going and everyone laughing at him for being box office poison. I bet FOX just staring at a wall wondering how this happened and they probably only made this film to jump on bandwagon of super hero films and shut up Ryan
QuantumZebra
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The relationship and origin aspect carried the film pretty well - the next is gonna be interesting
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Both of those elements played a large part in its success and marketing.
KonradLaw
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Well deserved. The little movie that could. Not just beat Superman and Batman, but also every other X-Men, the recent Spider Mens and vast majority of Marvel movies. And all that with no China and with R-rating. Jesus.
I wonder if it's not the most profitable superhero movie of all time.
I wonder if it's not the most profitable superhero movie of all time.
I recommended it to Betty White
GuitarAtomik
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YUP! Totally got those two mixed up. I imagine he's pretty protective too considering how involved he is in Walking Dead. Plus it's not like he really needs the money any more.
xDUMPWEEDx
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Who else does GAF think could have pulled off the role of Deadpool other than Ryan Reynolds?
I don't get the people saying they shouldn't have been surprised. You had a fucked up version of Deadpool years ago that pissed off the fans, the guy playing Deadpool already had a bad outing as a comic book hero prior to this. Then you have it rated r. All of that played to the strength of the actual movie, but I'm sure there was actual concern on how it would do based on some of that. I remember there being a lot of concern from people on how it would turn out.
Either way it's a great movie and deserves this.
Either way it's a great movie and deserves this.
Coreda
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What is this list from? Couldn't find figures which match from the sites I looked at.
It's from BoxOfficeMojo.
Revisionist history or pure psychics.
Deadpool was never sure-bet. Even the trailers had people on the forums going "I'm not sure I'll like this humor".
This was an R-rated film with no 3D ticket prices starring a cult character last seen in the critically maligned Origins: Wolverine movie portrayed by the exact same actor who was also coming off a seemingly non-stop stream of box office bombs launching in the dead of February, typically a dumping ground for mediocre films and rom-coms, with a studio whose last superhero film was Fant4stic, that had so little faith in it they sat on the script for over a decade, forced them to give it a PG-13 treatment once, and slashed the budget so severely that it couldn't even cover the cost of RDJ's salary for Age of Ultron, experienced two big leaks, and gave them a marketing budget that consisted of viral videos and emoji billboards that had to be a fraction of any X-men's blockbuster media campaigns.
And this thing beat Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman combined at the domestic box office.
There is really no other way to overstate just how spectacular this film performed against any and all expectations.
GuitarAtomik
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Maybe Bradley Cooper but it probably wouldn't have been as good. You kind of need a half comedian/improv guy, and half action guy.
ElBoxyBrown
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It had standard IMAX.
smh
poppabk
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This is what I am worried about, that they are going to gut the film and make it an R rated avengers.
"I understood that fucking reference"
Don't forget no China.
Bobby Roberts
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Woof, WB.
Yes, I linked exactly to that
Bobby Roberts
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Holy crap, that sounds incredible!
Every Deadpool thread hurts me.
Blame marketing. I had no interest in Dredd until I heard from a friend it was good, but, good grief, those trailers were dull and bland as white bread toast.
CaviarMeths
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China's box office isn't included in domestic.
That's true, but a part of me wonders how well it would have done in China as well. Taking away BvS's China gross puts it in spitting distance of even Deadpool's WW total.
Which is even crazier because I'm not sure how the humor and pop-culture references would translate from culture to culture.
yep
i rolled my eyes at every commercial that aired during it's theatre run. i was very pleasantly surprised when i saw it a year later, but it was too little and too late :/
BobTheFork
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I really hope TJ miller got some points on this movie.
I used to see him in Denver and now he's movie gold, GOLD JERRY!
I used to see him in Denver and now he's movie gold, GOLD JERRY!
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
So happy for all these guys. Much deserved success for sure especially with all the heart and blood sweat tears they've spent to get this onto the screen.
Reynolds earning that paycheck so well... I've always liked him as an actor (didn't catch any of his romcoms except for this one) and his small part as Wade in origins was the highlight of the whole film.
Gotta go with Tim on this one though... no one could have expected it to do this astronomically well. I knew for a fact that I was going to love it. And that basically all my friends would love it. But i never imagined that it would capture such a huge and repeat audience like it did.
treat your shit with respect and watch the money roll. fuck Singer and his "what did you expect, yellow spandex??" insulting ass serious dour dumb bullshit.
THIS right here. this is how you do a comic book movie. It's a spicy meat-ah-ball!!!
Reynolds earning that paycheck so well... I've always liked him as an actor (didn't catch any of his romcoms except for this one) and his small part as Wade in origins was the highlight of the whole film.
Gotta go with Tim on this one though... no one could have expected it to do this astronomically well. I knew for a fact that I was going to love it. And that basically all my friends would love it. But i never imagined that it would capture such a huge and repeat audience like it did.
treat your shit with respect and watch the money roll. fuck Singer and his "what did you expect, yellow spandex??" insulting ass serious dour dumb bullshit.
THIS right here. this is how you do a comic book movie. It's a spicy meat-ah-ball!!!
Kaneda Shotaro
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Don't forget, marketing budget was massive. They spent more than twice the film's budget on marketing ($100 million +).
Depends what you mean by that.
Sure, I don't think anyone sane expected this level of success, but I don't think you have to be psychic to see that a quality original film that very clearly stands out from basically every other film on the market that was made on a very modest budget was going to be a financial success.
quality original films bomb every week
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