DonasaurusRex
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oh boy i bet avatar was a crowpacalypse who would've seen that coming......
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Time to eat crow regarding "Guardians of the Galaxy"
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oh boy i bet avatar was a crowpacalypse who would've seen that coming......
RunWhiteBoyRun
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Marvel makes fun movies that most people enjoy. All that matters.
They need to be redefining pieces of art on Sixtine Chapel calibre, no one will talk about them in a couple of years like they do with Pixar Movies...
Even though people still talks about the OG Iron Man 6 years later
Well, didn't take long for the salty Marvel haters to show up with the crap about TDK and randomly Pixar. Stay mad brehs, Marvel is kicking major ass right now.
My post is already in the OP brah, and I even responded on like page 3. You laaaaaaaate
My post is already in the OP brah, and I even responded on like page 3. You laaaaaaaate
That one is my personal favorite.
SlowRevolution
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Manmademan
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I just linked one that named WS as "marvel's dark knight", here's a second-
http://cutprintfilm.com/reviews/the-bright-knight-captain-america-the-winter-soldier/
and a third
Captain America The Winter Soldier: Marvel Studio's Dark Knight
and a fourth
http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/04/06/is-captain-america-the-winter-soldier-the-best-marvel-movie-yet/
and a fifth
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=96823
There's pretty clear consensus the two films are aiming for the same ground, though WS is not out to Ape what TDK does, and the Russo's aren't Nolan and aren't trying to be.
Discotheque
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Giant alien-cat hybrids starred in the biggest box office success of all time
Talking trees were in another huge blockbuster event film
A raccoon with a gun is digestable too
Now an advanced African civilization? Hahahhaaaa
Talking trees were in another huge blockbuster event film
A raccoon with a gun is digestable too
Now an advanced African civilization? Hahahhaaaa
Yes it does, because he says that shit about any movie not named avatar and it's getting old.
Its still mind blowing to me. I'm generally much better with gauging these things but I felt the advertising for GotG was ATROCIOUS. It was just.... man it was so bad...
But perhaps it wasn't; it appears it was only me that felt that way. 95 million opening weekend on this franchises first movie is absurd. Im still trying to digest that, the crow will have to wait in line.
Not...really.
The truth is, the entire discussion of film quality is a wholly subjective thing. What we view as "objectivity" in this context is really more of a silent contract we all sign through general consensus of what parameters make a movie good or bad. That said, it's still opinionated and individual people will still have their own reactions to art. Even critical acclaim is just a mass of opinions aggregated to come up with a consensus from people we trust to tell us about film.
Point is, you can post as many metacritic scores as you'd like, but that doesn't make a movie "objectively" good or bad. Because objectivity doesn't really exist here.
Black people being smart enough to use computers and run a functional society without outside interference is pretty high fantasy, to be fair.
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Partial Gamification
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I don't get it. What's the deal with trying to hang this stuff over the heads of others?
I understand its a videogame forum and popular culture encompasses a large part of that media, but this movie (and more generally popular entertainment) seems like a petty thing to quibble over.
Is there some hidden joke behind all this or is there a meannessto all within this?
I understand its a videogame forum and popular culture encompasses a large part of that media, but this movie (and more generally popular entertainment) seems like a petty thing to quibble over.
Is there some hidden joke behind all this or is there a meanness
Delta Assault
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I think the Winter Soldier certainly goes more in TDK's direction then any other Marvel movie, in the same way that Kansas City is a long drive away from New York in the direction of Los Angeles.
Doh, but I did say I was going to post it, so can't blame me there!
Bobby Roberts
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Thanks for digging up the links, man.
Most of those are absolutely using Dark Knight as a touchstone for easy reference as a means to get the idea that Cap is trying to step outside the "superhero" genre. The Clock & CutPrint aren't comparing the two directly and saying they arrive at the same point dramatically, and CutPrint makes it a point to say this is a movie that gets CLOSE to that benchmark (on a political level only), not that it actually measures up. "The Dark Knight" is being used mostly as shorthand for "serious, great Superhero movie."
Also, one of those links is a not all-that-well written review at comicbookmovie, which you should stop reading, as any given messageboard post here at GAF is bound to have as much cogent and coherent analysis as whatever the not-great writers at a clickwhore enthusiast site might cough up
Also, I'm not sure that really goes towards your claims of "consensus" as you don't have any mainstream/general pop-culture sites/outlets represented.
ScottSullivan
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Its pretty amazing that rdj can demand 50 mil per movie and tbe studio is ok with that.. They realize how important he is to the mcu at this point. His.prescence in im1 made such an impact that.marvel now has rabid audiences for anything they put out
ViewtifulJC
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Some people get REALLY invested in a property, to the point where they all rock avatars and watch Metacritic/RT like a hawk and hang around BoxOfficeMojo for results.
Its validation, its all its about. This geeky thing of mine is well-liked, and thus I can feel better about myself.
See also: the reaction to negative reviews of The Dark Knight Rises being so bad RottenTomatoes shut off comments entirely. Because if someone didn't like this thing I love so much, its a personal affront.
Any day now, I'm sure. Just gotta wait till half way through Phase 3. Yup yup.
Gotta wait till T'Challa walks all the way from Wakanda to Kevin Feige's house so he can sign off on the script.
Any day now.
Partial Gamification
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Its in good fun then. I'm okay with that, and understand - even if its not my thing.
I'll find that thread for reading later.
He's important to be sure, but if future Marvel movies are on the same quality as winter soldier and guardians than the MCU doesn't soley rely on him and tbh would still be in good hands without.
yeah yeah enjoy the bragging rights til the turtles take over.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I like these threads. They're petty but funny.
GOTG will outgross the turtles WW and domestically.
George Oscar Bluth II
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All this conflict...
Secret Fawful
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A big budget blockbuster about a talking tree making huge bank and possibly even winning awards?
That's never happened before.
That's never happened before.
Bobby Roberts
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All this conflict...
This gif is gonna get a LOT of use in the future.
SlowRevolution
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guardians of the galaxy is the lord of the rings of superhero space operas
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Fucking awesome!All this conflict...
Marvel, you win comic book movies. Damn, I need this in my veins.
Manmademan
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Thanks for digging up the links, man.
Most of those are absolutely using Dark Knight as a touchstone for easy reference as a means to get the idea that Cap is trying to step outside the "superhero" genre. The Clock & CutPrint aren't comparing the two directly and saying they arrive at the same point dramatically, and CutPrint makes it a point to say this is a movie that gets CLOSE to that benchmark (on a political level only), not that it actually measures up. "The Dark Knight" is being used mostly as shorthand for "serious, great Superhero movie."
Also, one of those links is a not all-that-well written review at comicbookmovie, which you should stop reading, as any given messageboard post here at GAF is bound to have as much cogent and coherent analysis as whatever the not-great writers at a clickwhore enthusiast site might cough up
Here's the thing with that- the sites I listed were the results of a 10 minute google search for "winter soldier" and "dark knight". those were the ones with the most immediate and obvious references to the two, and I disagree that they're simply using it as an 'easy touchstone." no less than two explicitly label the film as "marvel's dark knight" not because it's a serious great superhero movie, but because both WS and TDK are using the genre to make social commentary as much as they are about punching people in the face and having things explode. They're not the exact same movie and don't try to be, but both tread similar ground and go in the same direction. These are thrillers making social commentary that happen to have superheroes in them, rather than "superhero movies." I would probably throw watchmen or "V for vendetta" in the same category.
consensus was in referring to WS as being a good movie, which is unanimous no matter who you look at. there are very, very few outlets that say it's not worth seeing, or is anything less than "well above average." There's no real way to determine whether there's critical consensus about having similar goals and themes to TDK without going through 500 or so reviews with a fine toothed comb, and no one really has that kind of time.
Should I start compiling a Turtles crow eating thread?
Manmademan
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pretty sure the crows will be sleeping pretty soundly next weekend. Michael Bay hasn't made a good film since what...the Rock?
folks already started to eat a bit due to first reactions. And the initial shock that this new movie is in fact not at all made by Michael Bay.
But by all means please make a thread.
Diprosalic
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michael bay didn't write or direct Turtles breh.
Bobby Roberts
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That's not what consensus should have been referring to, as Winter Soldier being a good movie was never in question, and not the statement you made that caused me to address your post, either.
But that's essentially what I mean by their using TDK as a touchstone - TDK is a movie that tried to do more than just be a Superhero movie, and was very, very successful with it. Using that as a positive example to highlight the manner in which Winter Soldier stepped out of its box is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. They're using it as a comparison point, but they're not putting them on the same plane of quality, or suggesting that Winter Soldier made the same impact that TDK did on a storytelling level.
You don't have to go through 500 or so, and you don't have to use a fine-toothed comb. You gave me four reviews and I went through them in like 10 minutes.
edit: and yeah, Michael Bay didn't write or direct Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. He's just one of (I think) five different producers on the credit block.
Does TMNT have the potential to be good, yes. Will it outgross GotG Week 2, not likely unless TMNT is amazing. Like I said before, it's tracking pretty low. Even GotG had great projections for a new franchise.
Also, initial Twitter reactions aren't a good way to see if a movie is gonna be good. TASM2 was being praised by early viewers on Twitter, & we all know how it turned out. The best way to know is to wait for full reviews to come out.
Are crow threads for reviews or box office haul?
Bobby Roberts
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TMNT's marketing only JUST recently stopped sucking, and it's probably too late to reverse that damage.
The quality of the movie has almost nothing to do with how big the opening weekend is. That's all a reflection of the marketing.
It's usually box-office, as most people shitting on the film are shitting on it by saying "It's gonna bomb, nobody wants to see this shit."
100 mil opening weekend means crow is served.
The quality of the movie has almost nothing to do with how big the opening weekend is. That's all a reflection of the marketing.
It's usually box-office, as most people shitting on the film are shitting on it by saying "It's gonna bomb, nobody wants to see this shit."
100 mil opening weekend means crow is served.
This thread was mostly for box office haul, but there's a bit of the reviews end in there.
I don't know... Maybe it's because he's in space, but I'm not digging the outfit.All this conflict...
Those are pretty generic shots with some CG thrown in.
but lol just like The Master am I right?
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