Mr_Antimatter
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Anime is basically just animation, it covers so many genres, styles, and themes that you really can't judge it like that. It's like saying 'movies are trash' or 'books are trash'.
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Anime is basically just animation, it covers so many genres, styles, and themes that you really can't judge it like that. It's like saying 'movies are trash' or 'books are trash'.
LiquidSolid
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Neither company are smart. When's the last time WWE orchestrated a quality work? When Punk was apparently leaving in 2011? Because otherwise, their biggest headlines have been real stuff (Lawler's heart attack, Paul Bearer's death).
Meh. All that matters in the end is the entertainment of it. I think pulling it off safely there's an art to it, and I know a lot of great wrestlers prided themselves on not hurting their opponent. Don't understand that disappearing, especially considering the shorter lifespans of wrestlers (more drugs but still) and some great careers shortened or ruined by injuries and concussions. Bret Hart's for one, plus the resulting stroke.
I used to love wrestling, through the younger teens, and even wanted to get involved in it. My video store clerk wrestled at the time with CM Punk and Cabana in the indie market. I'm glad I moved away from it though. As a business and everything, there's just so much wrong with it. Makes me really appreciate when some one like CM Punk is doing it right.
Wrestling contains most of the worst of the worst people, that industry is full of scumbags who can get away with a lot of crime. How many women has Ric Flair harassed and Cena and so forth? Every story I've heard is just the fucking pits.
I'm aware it is, sorry for my irrational hate. But I do personally hate anime, a lot of anime. Anime fans, the fandom, the conventions, and so on and so forth. I also hate most of the stuff Japan does.
Mr_Antimatter
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I've always had a lot of respect for the pros, as it's so very, very hard on them physically and mentally, and they don't get a whole lot for it, unless you manage to be one of the few standouts who goes on to other things, like the Rock did, or Hogan in the 80's/early 90's.
It's a tough job. you have to have the physical attributes of a body builder, the flare for the dramatic of a soap actor, and the will and nerves of a stunt man.
probably cause I invested a lot of time into the spectacle and learning about this stuff, I don't know about other people but it's pretty fucking bad what these wrestlers have done.
Mr_Antimatter
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The fandom is all over the place, ditto for any other fandom in existence. the cons are no worse then any other fandoms convention, and actually quite a bit of fun to attend. Anime itself is also all over the map. You have shows that are just tripe, and shows that leave you breathless. Ones that are just trope factories and ones that subvert everything you expect walking in. The hard part is separating out the good form the bad, the truly inspired for the simple pandering.
That's all rather off topic though, unless there is some wrestling focused anime out there or something. Can't think of one offhand though.
I'd like to think the new breed of wrestlers are not as fucked up as the old guard.
It will never be perfect though.
edit: I don't really talk to random Anime fans or have ever gone to a convention. Outside my own circle of friends, I really don't ever discuss anime.
I enjoy it in my own little world really. It works.
If there is a recommendation thread, I post.
In the end all my hobbies have unreasonable fans.
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Deleted member 47027
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I honestly have no clue what is even classified as anime anymore. General animation? Wasn't there some MUSCLE shit or whatnot?
Everywhere is a cesspit if you look closely, but wrestling feels very grimy a lot of the time as well, moreso than others but that might just be the perspective we have on it.
That's true they might not be as bad as the guys from the last generation were
Well touching your opponent is normal in a wrestling match, hell, a military press requires your hand on the opponent's crotch, and a powerbomb requires their crotch in your face. It's just something to ignore.
However, with Layla it's a bit of a trend.
Deified Data
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I honestly can't decide if this was scripted or not. Even her twitter response could be part of the act. Not minimizing it in any way of it's legitimate, but I honestly can't tell.
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Real talk, TNA isn't that good or subtle.
They should just bury whatever they're doing now and bring back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giGDc1ncOyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giGDc1ncOyA
They feel pain regardless, you always feel pain. The ring is hard, getting hit a clotheslien is painful. The art comes in when you can minimize the amount of pain the other guy feels and not actually hurting him. I think ECW did a lot to ruin people's perception of wrestling and how it's "fake".
These guys break their bodies on a weekly basis, with no time off. I respect the hell out of them. Then, of couse, you have these indy dipshits who properly hurt themselves and think that sells.
I certainly wouldn't sign up for it. Insane hours, insane schedule, insane toll on you mentally and physically.
Wrestling is fine the way it is. I don't need it to be more real in ring, or whatever the fuck.
If I cared about dudes beating the crap out of each other legitimately for sport I'd watch MMA. But I don't give any fucks about that, so I don't watch it.
I watch wrestling for it's over the top choreographed matches and characters. I mean people argue that there is better fake fighting, characters, and storyline in a shit load of other mediums. But hey, I just like how it's all blended here together in a LIVE capacity. It's fine.
The day the ridiculousness stops I'm out.
But sure, the product can always be improved without it anything having to do with REAL fighting.
If I cared about dudes beating the crap out of each other legitimately for sport I'd watch MMA. But I don't give any fucks about that, so I don't watch it.
I watch wrestling for it's over the top choreographed matches and characters. I mean people argue that there is better fake fighting, characters, and storyline in a shit load of other mediums. But hey, I just like how it's all blended here together in a LIVE capacity. It's fine.
The day the ridiculousness stops I'm out.
But sure, the product can always be improved without it anything having to do with REAL fighting.
I used to watch it because it was usually an interesting bad guy and an interesting good guy and I wanted one of them to go over. I don't care if it's "real" or not. I don't care at all now.
The Punk promo brought me back and kept me watching for a few weeks, but I gave up when I realized that he was coming back so soon.
In an ideal world, they could have milked that as much as possible.
Sanky Panky
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It's harassment.
If you are a man, how would it feel to have another man intentionally back you into a corner and put his crotch in your face?
If you are a man, how would it feel to have another man intentionally back you into a corner and put his crotch in your face?
BFIB
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Happens every time there's a 10 punch in the corner.
I always laughed my ass at the idea of Batista sniffing someone's dick whenever he does his finisher.
This entire series of fights was just brutal. I remember my Dad and brother really getting into wrestling for that and Tyson around the same time. They never cared much before, since the Hogan days, and not again after.
"Real" is not the problem, I definitely agree. Being "real" never got wrestlers over or sold tickets. The characters and the fact that they made people care about them is what did.
The problem for me stems much more from the lack of interesting characters and angles than anything else. I joke about Vince dying every 3 months, but it's not really a joke. They're essentially calling me stupid. I have a much better time watching shoot interviews these days (the good ones), because I'm actually learning about the business. I'd rather watch that than a dumb storyline or gimmick they're trying to feed me on TV. Oh and those legends round-table programming that they did with WWE 24/7, those were awesome.
That being said, I don't have any issues with people who enjoy the product. And there's some genuinely interesting talent coming up every now and then. Santino, for example, can't wrestle for shit, but makes me laugh at his nonsense. I love him some times. But then I have no idea why The Miz became a big deal for the WWE.
You need to check out Stone Cold Steve Austin's Podcast show. Highly entertaining. NO HOLDS BARRED.
I've been meaning to for a while now, I'll definitely check it out then.
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Deleted member 47027
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Color me surprised, good on TNA for doing something about it assuming it isn't a work. I did not expect that.
Angelus Errare
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Damn, Danny Brown is so talented.
The Bookerman
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Mr. Luchador
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This is a case for the North Yorkshire Police Department.
Who is Cesaro? Is that Claudio's WWE name? I haven't seen WWE/TNA shows in years.
Good on TNA....
After they punish Aries though, maybe they can tell Christy to do her simple fucking job correctly.
Last Visible Dog
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It's idiocy aimed at morons (if you're not a moron and still enjoy then that's just puzzling to me)
I watched some, and, like the worst of Jerry Springer et al, it just made me ashamed to be human.
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I watched some, and, like the worst of Jerry Springer et al, it just made me ashamed to be human.
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Deleted member 47027
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Yep that's Claudio, he's now Antonio Cesaro.
They fucked up then because no one in Wrassle gaf is a moron and we all watch some form of it.
Oh well, back to the drawing board.
You're on a videogame forum
I'm even more proud of my Bachelor's degree now, considering my mental disability and all.
ViewtifulJC
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lol
ipitydatfu
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havent heard of her since playboy
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Deleted member 47027
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They just hand em out in those nordic lands right?
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