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Am I the only one who didn't feel as if Arima was losing? It seemed as if he either had the advantage or they were at a stalemate during portions of the fight. I understand his Quinque was damaged but this is a guy who killed a ghoul with an umbrella! And he was still slicing off Kaneki's limbs/appendages with his broken Quinque. Maybe it's as some of you have said, the guy was just tired of being used by V and opted out voluntarily when Kaneki couldn't/wouldn't do the job. Anyway, I'm off to read Berserks' latest chapter!
 
Mifec said:
You saw an undefeated person
have a mental breakdown after being unable to defeat his opponent which resulted in suicide.
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The only person who can take down strongest is himself.

Furuta owning Eto is making me a bit salty. So is Rize supposed to be the miracle Ghoul? Everyone who has a piece of her is stupidly strong.
 
WhiskerFrisker said:
So is Rize supposed to be the miracle Ghoul? Everyone who has a piece of her is stupidly strong.
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looks like it, she was the ghoul everyone (including aogiri) was looking for since the beginning of the story, but who did the experiment first? because it looked like kaneki was supposed to be the original, it doesn't add up
 
Mifec said:
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I doubt that, there has to be more to Arima than that. He decided to not kill Kaneki all those times and I doubt he waited all that time to let Kaneki get stronger just so he can have a dbz fight. If he lives pretty sure he would be ordered to kill Kaneki, so this was inevitable. But, I'll eat crow if Arima offed himself because of pride.

Anteater said:
looks like it, she was the ghoul everyone (including aogiri) was looking for since the beginning of the story, but who did the experiment first? because it looked like kaneki was supposed to be the original, it doesn't add up
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It still looks like Kaneki is the original. Furuta looks like he still is new to using his kagune. But bro he is scary, he is that strong and doesnt have that much experience with it. Looks like he is more of a prodigy than Kaneki honestly. Something something genetics. But still would put Kaneki above him. With eto and Arima now redundant in terms of power level, looks like the true big players are gonna come soon.
 
Anteater said:
looks like it, she was the ghoul everyone (including aogiri) was looking for since the beginning of the story, but who did the experiment first? because it looked like kaneki was supposed to be the original, it doesn't add up
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He is, but like I said, Rize is incredibly strong. I wouldn't be surprised if she was actually the One Eyed King, though that doesn't make sense.
Eios said:
It still looks like Kaneki is the original. Furuta looks like he still is new to using his kagune. But bro he is scary, he is that strong and doesnt have that much experience with it. Looks like he is more of a prodigy than Kaneki honestly. Something something genetics. But still would put Kaneki above him. With eto and Arima now redundant in terms of power level, looks like the true big players are gonna come soon.
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If that is actually the case then that is some horseshit. Eto was at the top and for her to be curb stomped by Furuta would make me hate him even more.
 
So i'm guessing Arima's death is what CCG wanted kept on the DL to not demoralize the troops on Ru Island. Honestly surprised Ishida killed him off at this point in the story. Hopefully we still get his backstory.

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Furuta is stronger than anyone could've imagined. This Kaneki vs Furuta would be a really really epic match up.
 
OH MY GOD, CAN IT BE!?! Finally!! My only wish was that someone else killed him instead of giving him the satisfaction of doing it himself. You may now finally rest in peace, Touka's pops, Devil Ape, Black Dog, and every other good ghoul that Arima has murdered.

Not a fan on how Eto, the strongest ghoul we know of was just destroyed off screen. Although it looks like i was right, Furuta was just a normal human at some point. I bet next week we'll just get some Arima back story. psh, fuck that dude, good riddance. Too OP for his own good, made every fight he was in super boring and one sided imo.


I don't think he's dead :( I'm banking on him being the One Eyed King
 
Hero Prinny said:
OH MY GOD, CAN IT BE!?! Finally!! My only wish was that someone else killed him instead of giving him the satisfaction of doing it himself. You may now finally rest in peace, Touka's pops, Devil Ape, Black Dog, and every other good ghoul that Arima has murdered.

Not a fan on how Eto, the strongest ghoul we know of was just destroyed off screen. Although it looks like i was right, Furuta was just a normal human at some point. I bet next week we'll just get some Arima back story. psh, fuck that dude, good riddance. Too OP for his own good, made every fight he was in super boring and one sided imo.


I don't think he's dead :( I'm banking on him being the One Eyed King
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Only thing I agree with is Eto getting rekt off screen. I just cannot comprehend how Furuta of all people managed to pulled that off.
 
Definitely not how I would have thought the plot would turn. Not sure I particularly like the recent direction of the manga but we'll see how it all comes together.

Nice to get confirmation that Furuta's true allegiance is the clowns / himself.

Hero Prinny said:
OH MY GOD, CAN IT BE!?! Finally!! My only wish was that someone else killed him instead of giving him the satisfaction of doing it himself. You may now finally rest in peace, Touka's pops, Devil Ape, Black Dog, and every other good ghoul that Arima has murdered.
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Those two were not good ghouls; it was the whole point to their ending. They were sacrificing themselves because of all the bad shit they did prior to Anteiku taking them in.
 
Kyuur said:
Those two were not good ghouls; it was the whole point to their ending. They were sacrificing themselves because of all the bad shit they did prior to Anteiku taking them in.
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i didn't spend time with them as a demon, we knew them once they changed over a new leaf and tried to live decent lives setting an example for touka. therefore as far as I'm concerned they're good ghouls >:(
 
Eios said:
It still looks like Kaneki is the original. Furuta looks like he still is new to using his kagune. But bro he is scary, he is that strong and doesnt have that much experience with it. Looks like he is more of a prodigy than Kaneki honestly. Something something genetics. But still would put Kaneki above him. With eto and Arima now redundant in terms of power level, looks like the true big players are gonna come soon.
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Furuta is also trained in sunlit garden like Arima, so he's probably a tad bit better than most people in the CCG.

Man Furuta is more clown-like than most of the clowns. I wonder if he's the boss even though he didn't create the group.

SUPER PEACE

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The thing is, yes he wasn't losing, but he wasn't winning either. They were evenly matched. He knew he couldn't win, and I also think he knew he didn't want to win. So he just offed his self.
 
Furuta is the one who crushed Rize right? Also him beating Eto wasn't really offscreen, back a few chapters when it was revealed he was a one eyed ghoul it clearly show him slicing her to bits. He caught her off guard when she was about to attack a seemingly weak opponent.

The whole Arima thing makes no sense but maybe it will be explained next time. I hope so anyway, it would be dumb if his reason was that they were in stalemate so he decided to just end it lol.
 
To me it didn't seem like a stalemate, nor do I think Arima was truly giving his all. I know he's like devoid of emotion but when people are genuinely trying their hardest, don't they grimmace at least, maybe I'm just speaking anecdotally. I hate how Kaneki is being built up along with Furuta, it's truly disappointing. At least have them cannabilizing or training to show the growth of their abilities. I'm still upset about Shachi being beaten so easily, when he was pummled by Shachi on separate occassions and Shachi is pummeled by Arima and Armia feels like he can't win against Kaneki? It makes no sense...you're annoying me Ishida. I'm about to write my own manga where things make sense
 
Allonym said:
To me it didn't seem like a stalemate, nor do I think Arima was truly giving his all. I know he's like devoid of emotion but when people are genuinely trying their hardest, don't they grimmace at least, maybe I'm just speaking anecdotally. I hate how Kaneki is being built up along with Furuta, it's truly disappointing. At least have them cannabilizing or training to show the growth of their abilities. I'm still upset about Shachi being beaten so easily, when he was pummled by Shachi on separate occassions and Shachi is pummeled by Arima and Armia feels like he can't win against Kaneki? It makes no sense...you're annoying me Ishida. I'm about to write my own manga where things make sense
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Arima gave his all but he didn't aim to kill Kaneki, he avoided killing him until the very end, I think Kaneki might just be the only one he cared enough to not kill in his career

this fucking panel man :(

it's so pretty

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Allonym said:
To me it didn't seem like a stalemate, nor do I think Arima was truly giving his all. I know he's like devoid of emotion but when people are genuinely trying their hardest, don't they grimmace at least, maybe I'm just speaking anecdotally. I hate how Kaneki is being built up along with Furuta, it's truly disappointing. At least have them cannabilizing or training to show the growth of their abilities. I'm still upset about Shachi being beaten so easily, when he was pummled by Shachi on separate occassions and Shachi is pummeled by Arima and Armia feels like he can't win against Kaneki? It makes no sense...you're annoying me Ishida. I'm about to write my own manga where things make sense
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Hard to argue with this. Was always scared that Ishida would get a little sloppy. TG is still my favorite weekly and I'm not saying kaneki hasn't had ass pulls even from the very beginning. But with Kaneki it has always been about his mindset and desperation affecting how he performs - Jason, Nishiro, takizawa, eto. Shachi was obviously a more grounded fight. But lets not kid ourselves, the ass pulls have existed since almost the beginning. Its just that the inner monologues are getting a little overused as justifications for the power ups.
 
I kinda like this ending. Out of there and shocking, especially since I was 100% sure Arima was half-ghoul or something but with Furuta's talk this chapter, that seems very unlikely now. Provided we will get at some time a look at his mindset, at what shaped him and that it won't be completely laughable, I'm okay with this.

What I don't like is how it came about, Kaneki suddenly (and apparently) bridging the gap between them, that being after he was mauled as never before, exchanging a few blows stranded between a number of chapters and then ending Arima in one effort. Feels weak after how Arima was build up. It needed at least two unbroken chapters of them going at it at high throttle, like in the last few pages of the previous chapter.
 
phaze said:
I kinda like this ending. Out of there and shocking, especially since I was 100% sure Arima was half-ghoul or something but with Furuta's talk this chapter, that seems very unlikely now. Provided we will get at some time a look at his mindset, at what shaped him and that it won't be completely laughable, I'm okay with this.
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yeah fuck that half ghoul shit, power level would be fucked if the most powerful characters are all half ghouls
 
phaze said:
What I don't like is how it came about, Kaneki suddenly (and apparently) bridging the gap between them, that being after he was mauled as never before, exchanging a few blows stranded between a number of chapters and then ending Arima in one effort. Feels weak after how Arima was build up. It needed at least two unbroken chapters of them going at it at high throttle, like in the last few pages of the previous chapter.
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I don't think Ishida has been very good at killing off really powerful characters in a believable, and satisfying way. Shachi was the definition of a tank, he should've lasted longer than a one chapter fight with Arima.

Juuzou getting one shotted by Kurona? Really? It's been 4 years since he last fought "them" and even then he was way stronger than they were that at that time. He's gotten even stronger since then. I don't care how much stronger she got, he's just on a different level.
 
83 is out

this chapter is nuts, lol
, a lot of theories are kind of half true and some are made possible again.

Holy shit Hide, dude singlehandedly turning the whole table around again

Arima's death is well done, that last panel when he was calling Haise's name man :(
 
Anteater said:
83 is out

this chapter is nuts, lol
, a lot of theories are kind of half true and some are made possible again.

Holy shit Hide, dude singlehandedly turning the whole table around again
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Ah- A- Arimaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Was he really refering to hide? So he made hide investigate before the end of the oringinal manga and has been suspicious for all that time?

Edit: re-reading again, it didnt say hide outright did the investigating but maybe it was a theory he had. But he had to have already been suspicious, cuz i doubt he would have taken hide's theory to well. But marude did call that washu chika, so not sure who he is refering to.
 
Eios said:
Ah- A- Arimaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Was he really refering to hide? So he made hide investigate before the end of the oringinal manga and has been suspicious for all that time?
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Yeah he was referring to Hide that tipped him but not sure how he did it, and why the dude disappeared, I think the whole Hide being a washuu theory will probably come back strong
 
Anteater said:
Yeah he was referring to Hide that tipped him but not sure how he did it, and why the dude disappeared, I think the whole Hide being a washuu theory will probably come back strong
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Hide's still alive. GG. Not sure how I would feel about that if true. But then hide might have been lying to Kaneki all this time. I do feel his death didnt get enough of a spotlight though. As for Hide being a Washu, mmm- I was hyped for it before but not so sure now. Feel like Kaneki's closest friend becoming his enemy or suddenly very important to the plot is not a good idea.
 
Eios said:
Hide's still alive. GG. Not sure how I would feel about that if true. But then hide might have been lying to Kaneki all this time. I do feel his death didnt get enough of a spotlight though. As for Hide being a Washu, mmm- I was hyped for it before but not so sure now. Feel like Kaneki's closest friend becoming his enemy or suddenly very important to the plot is not a good idea.
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Yeah, it's just his name being so similar to the other Washuus that's really suspicious, especially this chapter young Yoshitoki called himself Chika...

I think it would be a lot more awesome if he has no relationships with them and somehow found out using just his investigation skills, but then if he's a washuu he must've been a weird one or a normal human because he wasn't raised at sunlit garden like the rest of them
 
He does have dark roots for his hair so who knows, lol. This chapter was a good send-off for Arima and he finally has his true successor. I wanted to yell Arima's name out. Arimaaaaaaaa!!!!!! Not sure if I feel too bad for him though, sure, he hated killing, but he still did it.
 
Eios said:
He does have dark roots for his hair so who knows, lol. This chapter was a good send-off for Arima and he finally has his true successor. I wanted to yell Arima's name out. Arimaaaaaaaa!!!!!! Not sure if I feel too bad for him though, sure, he hated killing, but he still did it.
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everyone killed in the manga though, Kaneki killed a shit ton of ghouls himself lol

man that panel when he calls Haise's name tho :(
 
Anteater said:
everyone killed in the manga though, Kaneki killed a shit ton of ghouls himself lol

man that panel when he calls Haise's name tho :(
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True but its easier to relate to Kaneki, hes killing people the audience usually doesnt care for or dislike. Only person he indirectly killed that I feel bad about is Kanae. Where as Arima has killed a lot of side characters we are familiar with.
 
Eios said:
True but its easier to relate to Kaneki, hes killing people the audience usually doesnt care for or dislike. Only person he indirectly killed that I feel bad about is Kanae. Where as Arima has killed a lot of side characters we are familiar with.
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To be fair, he killed only 4 characters that we know that weren't exactly good people in the past, Yomo's sister who hunted humans, Demon Ape and Black Dog :P, not sure about Sachi.

Many of those are just following duties like everyone else in the CCG.

Now I think about it Kirishima siblings actually made it out alive twice from his hands lol.
 
Anteater said:
To be fair, he killed only 4 characters that we know that weren't exactly good people in the past, Yomo's sister who hunted humans, Demon Ape and Black Dog :P, not sure about Sachi.

Many of those are just following duties like everyone else in the CCG.

Now I think about it Kirishima siblings actually made it out alive twice from his hands lol.
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True, I guess I am more questioning why he kept doing it even though he started to despise himself and wanted to die. Maybe he was scared of going against V. What if Kaneki never appeared? Arima probably would have went on until his death. Won't put him down for that though, no way he would of survived against V. Yeah the rabbits were real lucky. Good thing he didnt kill them on the second try, would of made things complicated for kaneki. Maybe he wasnt trying to kill them, who knows.
 
Anteater said:
To be fair, he killed only 4 characters that we know that weren't exactly good people in the past, Yomo's sister who hunted humans, Demon Ape and Black Dog :P, not sure about Sachi.

Many of those are just following duties like everyone else in the CCG.

Now I think about it Kirishima siblings actually made it out alive twice from his hands lol.
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I think that I interpreted that a little differently, I didn't think he was calling Haise, since he refers to him as Ken Kanenki a few pages or panels earlier but instead, I think he was calling out to Hairu before finally passing, much like she remembered him as she died. That humanizes him more than calling "Haise" imo
 
Allonym said:
I think that I interpreted that a little differently, I didn't think he was calling Haise, since he refers to him as Ken Kanenki a few pages or panels earlier but instead, I think he was calling out to Hairu before finally passing, much like she remembered him as she died. That humanizes him more than calling "Haise" imo
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I interpret it as that Arima showing affection towards Haise, which was the time he spent with Kaneki, especially after he said he finally left something behind, and right after he reached his hand towards (disappearing) Kaneki because he remembers the time he let the moth/butterfly go, easy to tell if there are raws though since Hai-se are two characters and Hairu is one (I think).
 
Anteater said:
I interpret it as that Arima showing affection towards Haise, which was the time he spent with Kaneki, especially after he said he finally left something behind, and right after he reached his hand towards (disappearing) Kaneki because he remembers the time he let the moth/butterfly go, easy to tell if there are raws though since Hai-se are two characters and Hairu is one (I think).
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Hmmm, I didn't really connect the butterfly and Kaneki in that way but I guess that is true. You could interpret that as Arima himself is the butterfly as well and he, like the butterfly, is finally free. Ehhh whatever, people interpret things differently, I guess that the magic of any medium.

Still have one lingering thought, why don't these sunlit investigators just rage? Who among the investigators could honestly stop these dudes. There was no need for them to be subservient to the Washuu for so long unless they are even more terrifying beasts and I still don't understand their endgame...Is Ishida aping Zetman and having the CCG act akin to EVOL and secretly trying to bring about ghoul ruled world?
 
Allonym said:
Hmmm, I didn't really connect the butterfly and Kaneki in that way but I guess that is true. You could interpret that as Arima himself is the butterfly as well and he, like the butterfly, is finally free. Ehhh whatever, people interpret things differently, I guess that the magic of any medium.

Still have one lingering thought, why don't these sunlit investigators just rage? Who among the investigators could honestly stop these dudes. There was no need for them to be subservient to the Washuu for so long unless they are even more terrifying beasts and I still don't understand their endgame...Is Ishida aping Zetman and having the CCG act akin to EVOL and secretly trying to bring about ghoul ruled world?
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nah I interpret it as Kaneki/Ghouls/Everyone he's supposed to kill as the butterfly, we saw in the earlier chapter he grabbed the butterfly and said "yo it's nothing, just an insect" which implied he killed everything and in his eyes everything are just insects that are lesser than him, until now we were shown he actually let it go, just like he did with Sasaki, he said he could've killed him many times but he didn't and let Kaneki find a way to beat him.

He started calling him kaneki for a purpose just to show that's on the "business" side of things, and Sasaki Haise was personal, and the time he spent with him.

I think Sunlit investigators just don't care or that there are higherups that are keeping them in control, they're just conditioned that way, Hairu worshiped Arima as the strongest dude and the best ghoul killing investigator, she definitely don't care.
 
Any theories on what Arima wants Kaneki to do? Eliminate V? He could've done that all by himself lol. Unless V has multiple Furuta level half humans now?

This Hide stuff is getting even more exciting. Ishida delivering on answering those questions we've had for awhile. Still plenty of RE: to go which is crazy.
 
ASilentProtagonist said:
Any theories on what Arima wants Kaneki to do? Eliminate V? He could've done that all by himself lol. Unless V has multiple Furuta level half humans now?

This Hide stuff is getting even more exciting. Ishida delivering on answering those questions we've had for awhile. Still plenty of RE: to go which is crazy.
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I think it's implied the "demi-humans" are more flawed than the washuus which would mean the V/Washuus have characters beyond their level, Furuta said he would've been wiped out too if his higher ranks were to know about his body
 
I was so pissed off at first but maybe it's the most respectable way to kill arima,i would've preferred if he died as the 'last boss' in a manner of speaking though.
Yeah sure,kaneki will get more power-ups in the future but we will never know who is the strongest when the manga ends.
This is the definitely a turning point in the story and kaneki has a clear objective now.

ASilentProtagonist said:
Any theories on what Arima wants Kaneki to do? Eliminate V? He could've done that all by himself lol. Unless V has multiple Furuta level half humans now?
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The thing is that he was running out of time and who knows how long could take to eliminate that organization.
It would be awesome if he joined Kaneki instead of giving up but whatever..
 
Also now that I think of it, what is up with the rc supressors? They aren't used nearly as much as they should be. As in the form of bullets or grenades. Are they just hard to make or something?
 
Eios said:
Also now that I think of it, what is up with the rc supressors? They aren't used nearly as much as they should be. As in the form of bullets or grenades. Are they just hard to make or something?
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I think they're expensive, not sure what they're made of, but it's what Shirazu worked his ass off to use for his sister
 
No Maruuuuuuuuuuuuu .

That panel of Yoshitoki is goddamn amazing. So was bringing back that buttefly motif. Great chapter overall. And it fortunately provides some explanation for Arima's haxx powers.




TheFlow said:
wait I thought hide died?
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Technically, he could have tipped him before the Anteiku raid happened.

But then, there's no way in hell he's dead. And this chapter might have just confirmed he is Washuu

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Also, I propose we select a new title for this thread.
 
yeah the ending for Arima is so well done, probably the best end of any character in the whole series

TheFlow said:
wait I thought hide died? so how did he tip people off?
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phaze said:
No Maruuuuuuuuuuuuu .

That panel of Yoshitoki is goddamn amazing. So was bring back that buttefly motiv. Great chapter overall. And it fortunately provides some explanation for Arima's haxx powers.

Technically, he could have tipped him before the Anteiku raid happened.

But then, there's no way in hell he's dead. And this chapter might have just confirmed he is Washuu

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Also, I propose we select a new title for this thread.
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I actually don't mind that hax explanation, I still think of it as a minor boost to their physical/reflex for an exchange to a shorter life span.

What title do you guys suggest? I could PM a mod to change it

Hide's death is still unconfirmed, Kaneki still don't remember killing him

I originally thought Arima or someone may have mailed Kaneki the book during last Christmas, but if no one did then it's likely Hide
 
Might not be the best, but some ideas:

Super Peace!!!
The One-eyed Super Peace
RC cells, son
I was a Ghoul all along * washu reference *
Kaneki x Tragedy
Based Arima
Eto the One-eyed Punching bag * sorry, just that kaneki and now even furuta wrecked her. Even though losing to kaneki might have been intentional.*

A couple might be too spoilery. But anyways, looking foward to the other suggestions, I'll add more if I get new ideas.
 
Eios said:
Might not be the best, but some ideas:

Super Peace!!!
The One-eyed Super Peace
RC cells, son
I was a Ghoul all along * washu reference *
Kaneki x Tragedy
Based Arima
Eto the One-eyed Punching bag * sorry, just that kaneki and now even furuta wrecked her. Even though losing to kaneki might have been intentional.*

A couple might be too spoilery. But anyways, looking foward to the other suggestions, I'll add more if I get new ideas.
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"Super Peace" please.
 
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOLYYY SHIT this chapter was freaking intense!!

also thank you god, arima is completely 100% dead, no bs magic tricks to come back.

fuck you arima, eat shit.
 
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