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[Tawpgun]

Awesome change

 

[Scousefury]

Oh shit good changes

 

[ch4fx_]

So is everyone still pissed, or nah?

 

[bjaelke]

best half of the story by far

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

I like this part a lot:

Balancing an online game is no easy task, and while we believe that these changes are a step in the right direction for the future of the game, we will keep monitoring the situation and address what needs to be modified. But more than that, we will have an eye on all aspects of your experience, and balance things when needed. Sometimes it means making hard decisions that might not be appreciated, and when this happens we will make sure to give you the visibility you need to understand why these decisions are made.

 

[j-wood]

Fucking A. Massive is amazing. This game.

 

[gutterboy44]

YESSS!! They actually did the thing we wanted! Patch 1.1 back on track boys! Put the pitchforks back in the shed. Awesome.

This one is for you Massive. https://youtu.be/GSr-VWc_7WQ

 

[Tawpgun]

best half of the story by far

Makes you wonder why they didn't initially announce

 

[GazzaGSi]

So is everyone still pissed, or nah?

Nah ;-) no more disappointment when that boss drops!

 

[Iceman829]

So is everyone still pissed, or nah?

I was never pissed to begin with. I was waiting to see how things shook out. More loot in a loot based game is always nice.

Side note. Ve3tro is a dirty cheater with the 1.1 patch already deployed on his console with all these M1A drops

 

[Granadier]

: coming back to the thread from working :

welp, looks like I missed something

 

[red731]

Guess I'm back. Sweet.

 

[wesleyshark]

Update sounds good. Good going, Massive. 👌


Now... Why wasn't this explained at the same time as the rest of the 1.1 announcement the other day??

 

[bobs...onGaf]

The dark zone will be more interesting now that it's likely everyone will be extracting high ends all of the time!

 

[Darknyss09]

Dark Zone 'bout to get crazy =D

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Which CM are you attempting?

Wait...I can attempt others?

I just attempt whatever the daily one is, now I feel dumb. I also have no idea how crafting or any of that stuff works. haha

 

[WipedOut]

The HE drop will take place starting next week? Now I can understand why they nerfed the economy. We would be swimming HE parts with this Drop Rate. Well played Massive..

 

[Lnkn52]

I'll never doubt you Massive

 

[Tawpgun]

The dark zone will be more interesting now that it's likely everyone will be extracting high ends all of the time!

Dark Zone 'bout to get crazy =D

OMG haven't even thought of that

Dz5 and 6 especially gonna be nuts.

 

[Pop]

Now I gotta attack every agent I see.

 

[Tecnniqe]

Nerf HE drop rate please, I cant hold these, I want to remember the moments when I get that epic HE.

 

[Deku Tree]

I'll never doubt you Massive

Bad communication this week up until now. But good changes. DZ06 gonna get a lot more popular on Tuesday. I really hope they fixed the named boss spawns.

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

OMG haven't even thought of that

Dz5 and 6 especially gonna be nuts.

Dark Zone 'bout to get crazy =D

The dark zone will be more interesting now that it's likely everyone will be extracting high ends all of the time!

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Every named NPC? Even in hard mode and CM, or just DZ?

Either way, that's fucking awesome.

 

[Tecnniqe]

Welcome to the Rogue Zone!


Where hackers steal all your HE!

 

[fr0st]

Nerf HE drop rate please, I cant hold these, I want to remember the moments when I get that epic HE.

Yes the epic peformance mode that I have beeb lookint for the last week has finally dropped.

 

[Tawpgun]

Welcome to the Rogue Zone!


Where hackers steal all your HE!

Time to buy an Xbone!

 

[Deku Tree]

Gotta start selling my junk instead of dismantling it I guess.

Every named NPC? Even in hard mode and CM, or just DZ?

Either way, that's fucking awesome.

Every single named NPC. Get ready for all those HE performance mods!

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

really though, did they not see this coming?

 

[Iceman829]

Wait...I can attempt others?

I just attempt whatever the daily one is, now I feel dumb. I also have no idea how crafting or any of that stuff works. haha

Do yourself a solid and stop playing warrengate immediately

Load up Lexington Event Center or Lincoln Tunnel

People run these more often and much quicker. There are a total of 4 CMs (Russian Embassy being the 4th) that you can play any day and anytime. The only bonus you get from doing the daily CM is a bonus 20 pcreds on the base 30 pcreds you get. Doing any CM rewards you with a piece of HE gear and 30 pcreds.

If you need some tips or are looking for teammates post your version and ID and maybe someone here can help out. We can also give you some strats for the other missions if you would like.

 

[Deku Tree]

really though, did they not see this coming?

This chart is misleading though because so many people crafted so many vectors because the most of the available talents are garbage.

 

[darkistheway]

Honestly. Best change to a loot game ever.

Dark Zone is going to be crazy. Running hard missions became really worthwhile. General Assembly is going to be heaven.

 

[Darknyss09]

Every named NPC? Even in hard mode and CM, or just DZ?

Either way, that's fucking awesome.

Hell yeah.

Glad I spared all those named NPCs while doing the collectibles.

 

[SumptuousLemur]

I am suuuuuure this was totally part of the original plan...

Seriously...they couldn't have had those two lines in the patch notes?

-Every named enemy will now drop an HE item
-Division Tech drops increased by 42% from enemies

Pls

 

[Granadier]

Time to buy an Xbone!

Join us Tec. There's bambis waiting for you.

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The changes will be reallllly nice. Pulling the focus away from crafting is going to make the game far more interesting.
And now fighting in DZ05 / DZ06 will actually be worth it.

Spoiler

and killing players will be more interesting too

 

[Tawpgun]

Honestly. Best change to a loot game ever.

Dark Zone is going to be crazy. Running hard missions became really worthwhile. General Assembly is going to be heaven.

Is bliss gonna drop 6 high ends? Lol

 

[Iceman829]

Since no one posted the notes I grabbed these off reddit since I can't visit the ubi websites while at work.

CONCLUSION

To sum up the list of changes brought with update 1.1 in regards to item drops and crafting, we will:

Increase drop rates of High-End items on named NPCs (100% drop rate, actually)

Increase drop rates of Division Tech, to make it less of a bottleneck than it currently is

Modify loot tables for each named NPC, to make the hunt for loot more controlled

Increase conversion costs of lower quality materials to high quality ones, making it harder to convert low quality materials into high quality ones

Decrease construction yields, making it less interesting to farm lower quality items in order to obtain crafting materials, and because you’ll get more High-End items as a whole

Increase cost of crafting High-End items, because High-End materials will be much easier to come by

These changes will not only make crafting and dropping more coherent towards each other, but will also make it feel much more fun and rewarding.

Balancing an online game is no easy task, and while we believe that these changes are a step in the right direction for the future of the game, we will keep monitoring the situation and address what needs to be modified. But more than that, we will have an eye on all aspects of your experience, and balance things when needed. Sometimes it means making hard decisions that might not be appreciated, and when this happens we will make sure to give you the visibility you need to understand why these decisions are made.

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

Honestly. Best change to a loot game ever.

Dark Zone is going to be crazy. Running hard missions became really worthwhile. General Assembly is going to be heaven.

In hard mode they're only level 30 though, right? or 31? seems the best drops are going to be from level 32 named NPCs

 

[Springhettios]

Will there be certain pieces of loot though that are more rare than others? So one has a lower drop rate than other more common pieces.

 

[Granadier]

In before all named NPC loot tables favor performance mods.

 

[darkistheway]

Is bliss gonna drop 6 high ends? Lol

Why not!?

I was thinking more when all the first wave agents attack in the Assembly. Aren't there ~four named NPCs?

 

[Deku Tree]

How are each HE drop going to feel special, like Hamish told us yesterday, if we get one from every single named boss?

 

[fr0st]

Will there be certain pieces of loot though that are more rare than others? So one has a lower drop rate than other more common pieces.

Probably since theres a loot table.
Also dunni if the gear sets can drop from enemies so theres that.

 

[Cob32]

In before all named NPC loot tables favor performance mods.

And ilvl30 HE

 

[Tawpgun]

Will there be certain pieces of loot though that are more rare than others? So one has a lower drop rate than other more common pieces.

They said each enemy has a certain loot table. Community will have to figure it out most likely.

Time to find that m1a boss.


One thing worries me though.... The new update will include level 32 items as blueprints.... Hopefully those will drop from incursions and dz6 also

 

[darkistheway]

In hard mode they're only level 30 though, right? or 31? seems the best drops are going to be from level 32 named NPCs

True but level 30 drops are fine for getting ready for challenge mode (which is what I am doing now) or getting materials.

Police Academy farm is like 3 minutes. One High End piece everytime is a good farm.

 

[Tecnniqe]

CM is for pure mats now, while Incursion will be worth no CP.

100% HE but 0.0004% GSI

 

[Pop]

Make changes for the better, people still complain.

Can't win

 

[EL CUCO]

How are each HE drop going to feel special, like Hamish told us yesterday, if we get one from every single named boss?

When you get your M1A after 100 weapon mods, it'll be special

 

[Granadier]

One thing that they didn't directly mention, but would be nice to have.

Limiting blueprints to non-named weapons. Keep the named weapons a rarity so that they mean something when you get that drop.

This chart is misleading though because so many people crafted so many vectors because the most of the available talents are garbage.

No it's not. It directly shows that crafting was by far the most efficient way to become powerful.