Yeah sounds great...will it be 30 or 60 fps though ;-)
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Tomb Raider Definitive Edition - PlayStation 4 = ~60fps, Xbox One = ~30fps
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Yeah sounds great...will it be 30 or 60 fps though ;-)
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Jesus, this thread blew up.
I'm getting the PS4 version day one. I did love this game.
I'm getting the PS4 version day one. I did love this game.
PJV3
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I hope it's proper gravy, that American muck isn't very appealing.
How do you know they ignored the platform-parity request?
MAYBE DAT MEMORY BANDWIDTH AND GPU CAN'T BE CONTAINED.
Blackage
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Anyone have that penny-arcade spoof image of Major Nelson throwing people into gaf and Bish banning them? It always leaps to the front of my mind when I see posts like these from juniors with less then 10 posts.
Bluekaveli
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So wait I summed up the op and I am in the middle of this thread but I'd the IGN thing real? Or was that guy spreading false info? Also why are people getting banned?
BotoxAgent
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oh okay. I was just wondering if there was some new information, or spin, that will make him think this. Sorry thread was moving to fast.
Quickly looking back, I am guessing that Squeenix PR spin can interpreted in different ways?
that's not true at all; and high-end pc runs TR Ultimate quality well over 60fps with 4xSSAA enabled; console version will be using FXAA and a rewored version of tress fx (if i am not wrong ati is gonna release version 2.0 of it)
i am talking about a pc with a single card/single gpu; card with multiple gpu take the fr well over 100
Ha Will do thanks for the encouragement!!
TrojanBlade
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God these threads move too fast... Is there any new info or something past 8 hours which has sped it up more? See a lot of bans happening.
I think I'm over my salt at this not being a tomb raider game and might pick it up. I have yet to play a game on my ps4, I sure hope it works. I will wait to see some footage though as I'm not a fan of octagonal boobs.
bigdaddygamebot
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This kindof stuff makes my heart grow three sizes.
Ricerocket
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It's been brought up.
50:34
59:10
"we were misquoted, our goal at the beginning was 1080p 30fps minimum"
BibiMaghoo
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Honestly, I have both in the house. The differences are minimal. My addendum to that statement however, is that I made no comparisons before about 2 years in, because I didn't have a 360 in front of me until that point, playing the same games I was on PS3.
This gen has seen, in only a few months, far more obvious differences than I ever saw between the previous systems, but the time point is different, and that may be why.
To say as you did the differences were so pronounced, is hyperbole. Adding to that the PSN hack in a discussion about technical differences is...unusual.
Yeah, it could imply that both are 30fps, though it says nothing about "locked". Don't know why they feel the need to spin it that way in PR, but in a live environment it's easier to get more truthful answers, and that's where the executive producer said it's 60fps on PS4.
FairXchange
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If there really ends up being a 60/30fps difference between the PS4 and Xbox One versions, I'd be pretty amazed. I know that the PS4 is stronger, but that's a significant difference and not one to downplay or minimize as 'slight'. I'd love to experience Tomb Raider in 60fps and 1080p, I think it would be wonderful based on how beautiful the game is already.
BF4 is 60fpsI just can't wait to play the game, looks great and frame rate has never made a difference to anything I play. In my opinion BF4 runs better than CoD Ghosts on my PS4 and that is a 30/60 fps scenario too. Just enjoy your games
thelastword
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Skyrim's issues was more so on the developer than the PS3, I would classify that just like I did battlefield 4. The game was simply not coded properly. Still Skyrim was 720p on both consoles and looked good on both platforms.
Throughout last generation you could name a handful of bad ports on the PS3, I would think the worse would be bayonetta, still, the game was perfectly playable on the PS3 regardless. The rest were minor 2frame differences either side, much smaller resolution differences etc...Towards the middle to the end, the PS3 and 360 was flip flopping between the slightly best versions with the PS3 getting the nod with most of the big AAA games like GTA5 and Bioshock Infinite as recent examples.
To claim these that these comparisons were huge and declare these current gen differences as not so substantial is laughable and very suspect imo. I guess we all do have our preferences as do I, but at least we should try to keep it honest.
EGOMON
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Its real but not saying they are both capped at 30fps, they are dancing around it saying both console version offer outstanding experience the game was designed to run at 30fps anything beyond 30fps for this version is gravy
Also will already have a confirmation from the executive producer it is running at 60 fps on PS4.
Pharaoh 117
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If that difference doesn't translate to sales MS won't give a shit.
iFootball
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lol...
no facts of course... I'm just glad to see they are willing to release without parity, otherwise we would probably never know there was a possibility of getting a "better" version or that they aren't pushing each console as much as possible
If I had an Xbox One I think the 30 FPS wouldn't bug me that much. I mean yes, we all want technology to progress and yes we want better/shinier/smoother graphics but I'm used to 30 FPS and I can live with them, for now at least. This of course will change over time, I'd love to watch the LotR in higher framerate now, after experiencing The Hobbit for instance.
As a non-PS4/Xbox One owner (I'm quite contempt with my PS3, Wii U and 3DS for now) the thought of paying more money for the weaker hardware bugs me a lot though. Yes, the Xbox One has arguably more functionality to offer, such as the TV stuff and all, but for me those features don't really matter. I can understand people who like that stuff and are willing to pay for it though.
So in the end of the day, yes, the PS4 offers better hardware and the games will run smoother or look better than on the Xbox One. That's just the nature of things. If that's what you're looking for (just like me), go for that console/version. However, if you`re in for the whole "All In One" (such stupid marketing speak) experience, the Xbox One seems to be a pretty good option, if you can live with the compromises. I can't say if the Xbox One's added functionality can off-put the PS4's better graphics in order to balance things out (not a joke), everyone has their own preferences. But more variety is more great for all of us. Love.
As a non-PS4/Xbox One owner (I'm quite contempt with my PS3, Wii U and 3DS for now) the thought of paying more money for the weaker hardware bugs me a lot though. Yes, the Xbox One has arguably more functionality to offer, such as the TV stuff and all, but for me those features don't really matter. I can understand people who like that stuff and are willing to pay for it though.
So in the end of the day, yes, the PS4 offers better hardware and the games will run smoother or look better than on the Xbox One. That's just the nature of things. If that's what you're looking for (just like me), go for that console/version. However, if you`re in for the whole "All In One" (such stupid marketing speak) experience, the Xbox One seems to be a pretty good option, if you can live with the compromises. I can't say if the Xbox One's added functionality can off-put the PS4's better graphics in order to balance things out (not a joke), everyone has their own preferences. But more variety is more great for all of us. Love.
PS3 was worse in most multiplat games besides being slightly more powerful. Because of the overly complex PS3 architecture (RAM, CELL) and a shitty GPU XB1 was able to outperform it often besides having less TFLOPS. If devs made CELL shine, the results on PS3 there astonishing though and better what've seen on 360 (Uncharted, GOW).
So, all in all, we had somewhat a parity last gen.
This gen, however, we have a completly diferent situation. The difference in computational power is much bigger than last gen (even bigger than ever before if you just compare the direct competitioners). But that's not enough. Besides having less computational power and a significant worse GPU, the XB1 as also a more complex architecture and a difficult memory configuration.
Therefore, you see a game on PS4 running with 60FPS and on XB1 with 30FPS. It's still amazing that people try to downplay that difference. And no, I don't own neither of these consoles. And I never will, because of reasons I can't state because I'm fucking afraid of bish.
SwiftDeath
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Wow this thread is cray cray
Open season on bans it would seem. So many meltdowns or simply terrible posts
Open season on bans it would seem. So many meltdowns or simply terrible posts
Clarkus Darkus
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I'll pick it up for the ps4 after launch, As not overly big on Tomb Raider but its another ps4 game so i'll pay £30 on ebay in a month or so. Then again I could just buy it on release and sell it after completion which contradicts my first sentence.
I love how most of the bans have been handed out to people I argue with the most or newly approved juniors.
Sleeping Lesson
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seventynine
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Can lose posting privileges though
Garcia
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Unfortunately that came 50 pages late into the discussion, but you know what? It wouldn't have made any difference at all. These e-penis comparison threads are bound to be ban graveyards regardless.
BibiMaghoo
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SkylineRKR
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Well its supposedly an unlocked Framerate on both. It seems that PS4 will dip at hectic scenes, and X1 will go up to 45 fps at certain moments when there isn't much on screen. So the difference is ranging between 15 to 30 fps.
I think this game reflects the difference in power between the 2 systems reasonably well. Last gen the Ps3 wasn't weaker than the 360, but its architecture was way off. This time the systems are reasonably identical, but with the PS4 actually being more powerful and a bit easier to work with to top it off. Hence situations like this.
BotoxAgent
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oh ok, sweet. Thanks for the context.
That's fair. In some ways I think without the direct comparison (aka, having them run next to each other) either version (PS3/X360) the differences were acceptable. In this generation the differences may continue to gap and then I think there will be a genuine consideration for many to move to a platform that demonstrates it being a more viable long term in graphical abilities and general performance.
I brought up some of the other issues simply because there are a lot of things people will tolerate on a platform before abandoning it or it those platforms becoming non-viable.
I won't lie, I am incredibly disappointed in MS for a long list of things. Their inability to meet consumer expectations after 10 years is pretty mind altering. And it has me already looking past 2015 whether I grab another console (PS4/Steambox) or re-build a gaming PC. That's pretty telling to me because after the GCN I grabbed a x360 and didn't look back and let my PC become a steam/gog (4 year old game) machine. Not too keen in having to shell out more money but if the disparities increase and development shifts there's no real choice in the matter if I want to continue to game.
I do think it's a bit early yet to make any firm judgement on both these consoles and I'll have a clearer sense of things for my own gaming habits come E3 this year so if it came off as hyperbole it wasn't the intent.
Anyways - the bish ban hammer is out and im too new to risk anymore talking
(I wanna grow up some day and be big and strong! )
SEGAvangelist
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Haha. So many bans that anyone can find at least one ban to be happy about.
SwiftDeath
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Yes it would seem fairly obvious the motivations behind much of those posts
Mocoworm has always been like that
Damn straight. It'd be in the dick too.
With a few drops here and there.
Dreams-Visions
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and why wouldn't he be?
60fps is fucking awesome. Unless your game doesn't do 60fps, at which time it's really not that big of a deal.
BruiserBear
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I thought Arthur Gies stopped posting here a while back.
Nope
SEGAvangelist
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I swear I read "It'd" as "I'd." It made no sense for a moment and I didn't know what the hell I was reading.
SwiftDeath
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Nah that post isn't nearly condescending enough to be Gies
I did the same lol. Took me a second to realize
Chobel
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TreesFX is supposed to run on GPU compute.
PS4 has same compute power as recent R290X top tier AMD GPU.
As i said earlier this why probably game runs 60fps on ps4
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