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Tomb Raider is finally decolonized!
- Thread starter kruis
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0neAnd0nly
Member
... People still care about Tomb Raider? Ew.
Buggy Loop
Member
Uh oh, will SBI get to Indiana Jones too?
The changedTHIS IS NOT A VIDEO GAME
Before anyone goes crazy, this is just a tabletop game which has pretty much nothing to do with Crystal Dynamics appart from licensing. This statement is the one made by the company developing this game WHICH IS NOT A VIDEO GAME.
kruis , you may want to clarify this in the OP as this title is misleading.
The first reactions really prove that no one reads anything after the title...
Don't fall in this stupid clickbait, this "game" looks like this, it's a book lmao:
D
What changed...
WHAT IS CHANGED TELLL MEEEEEE
Sneakysnake
Banned
If we all start praying now, God may take some time away from ignoring starving children to make sure they don't fuck up the Indiana Jones game
Pejo
Member
I'd love to single out every person that had some skin in making this RPG and go down a list of products that aren't "responsibly sourced" that they use and shame the ever loving fuck out of them for each and every one. Got an iPhone? BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS! Where are your clothes made? You drinking Nestle bottled water? Tell me about your bananas.
Fucking so SICK of this horseshit. Selective slactivism that serves no purpose other than to ruin the associated IPs.
Fucking so SICK of this horseshit. Selective slactivism that serves no purpose other than to ruin the associated IPs.
Moriarty1889
Member
Two fucking weirdos……..sums it all up.If you are wondering the reason to this,here are the writers:
Kilau
Member
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
Why???? Just..... fucking why?
phaedrus
Member
If you are wondering the reason to this,here are the writers:
Oh I just noticed this.
PinoyGAF, you got some serious splainin' to do:
How'd you get from the Gosiengfiao Sisters to these furries & they/them nutcases???
Yes. In Wayne's World.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Quantum253
Gold Member
After working your way through an elaborate tomb, instead of an amazing treasure, you'll receive a lecture and made to feel shame
killatopak
Gold Member
We actually have amazing lgbtq people here. Some close relatives are too. There’s always bad apples. The issue here is those in that post seem to be infected by the western ideological versions. Not every lgbtq people are as unhinged as that.
March Climber
Gold Member
...Wasn't she already doing this in the last few games? Bad guys would essentially go to an indigenous land and try to use some long lost relic as a super weapon. Lara would stop them and save the land and people, then leave. It's essentially the Uncharted formula.
The only difference was that at least Drake was a lovable self-admitted thief/plunderer.
Why is everyone here mad about them essentially describing new-Lara? New-Lara was already a raider-hunter, like what the OP article is describing.
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Red5
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Pushing liberal agendas that contradict local customs, values and traditions in conservative "3rd world" countries using NGO's and USAID as a strongarm is also colonialism. If western liberals are worried about decolonizing the "3rd world" the best thing they can do is leave them be.
Halo is Back
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Nice catch.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
WTF?
IAmRei
Member
Nay, still japanese only for me
Waynes World
MayauMiao
Member
I would have answered the English Premier League.
Hypereides
Gold Member
Someone remove modern day Crystal dynamics from the Tomb raider IP already. They clearly don't have any passion for it nor give actually a F' about it.
Even if its a TTRPG it paints a negative outlook for any recovery in their next Tomb raider game.
Even if its a TTRPG it paints a negative outlook for any recovery in their next Tomb raider game.
scoobidoo112
Member
Then stop making Tomb Raider games if you feel so fucking awful about it. Liquidate the studio, donate the profits to charity, apologize for your history of endless bigotry and cultural appropriation and leave the franchise dead and buried.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Gotta agree. It's a TOMB RAIDER game. Colonialism is part of it all. Always have been and always will be.
Stop faking the funk.
nowhat
Gold Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Hope a Tomb Raider 7 is made. And the plot consists of Tomb Raiding as OG Lara and these imposters get killed for just getting in her way in each biome.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
I’m not wearing my glasses, so I read “decolorized” and were like “huh!?”
Then I opened the thread and my first thought was this is about a black-and-white comic book series.
Then I understood.
People thinking this isn’t a preview of what’s gonna spill into the video games are deluded.
Ask yourself, what are the sales prospects of a TR tabletop RPG? Why would they make this if this message is only going to reach a small bunch of people? You think this is a one-and-done thing? Lara’s main medium is video games.
Then I opened the thread and my first thought was this is about a black-and-white comic book series.
Then I understood.
People thinking this isn’t a preview of what’s gonna spill into the video games are deluded.
Ask yourself, what are the sales prospects of a TR tabletop RPG? Why would they make this if this message is only going to reach a small bunch of people? You think this is a one-and-done thing? Lara’s main medium is video games.
Kiya's Guard
Member
She raided tombs and foiled plans of evil people who wanted the artifacts contained in said tombs. So, colonialist heroine?
StueyDuck
Member
TOMB RAIDER SERIES TO ESCAPE ITS COLONIAL PAST
British adventurer Lara Croft will transition from being a raider of tombs to a seeker of truth as Evil Hat Productions and Crystal Dynamics seek to redefine the Tomb Raider series in order to escape a history wounded by colonialism, according to an excerpt from the official Tomb Raider Shadows of Truth RPG rulebook.
"Raiding, as depicted in the original Tomb Raider games and stories, involves going to ancient tombs and historical sites of different civilisations and acquiring artefacts. It operates on the assumption of 'finders keepers' that grants raiders with the means and the drive to claim ownership of artefacts, regardless of whether they have any historical or cultural claim to the treasure."
"Later games released in the franchise have started the work of addressing this by having Lara Croft acknowledge her past mistakes and try to understand and show respect for the cultures and communities she comes into contact with. She has also worked to reform raider culture and raise the awareness of her peers."
"Lara no longer decorates her mantle with mythic artefacts - as a raider she prioritises seeking out the truth. Much of this game is inspired by her humanity, struggle with heroism, and her tenacity. We believe that all three aspects are an important component in creating a game that celebrates history and culture while acknowledging the respect and work required to live in a world wounded by colonialism."
"In this game, we seek to continue in that work alongside Crystal Dynamics by creating a sandbox for you to tell stories that address colonialist themes in play and create your own stories of respect and support for the people and cultures your Seekers encounter."
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UPDATE: This news item is not the upcoming video game, but about a related table top RPG game. But I do think that the decolonist politics in the table top RPG game is a taste of things to come...
Do people think a colonial and an average English person are the same thing
RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
I believe the the next game will be a narrative soft reboot (ala modern God Of War).
It will acknowledge the original trilogy (hence the release) but go the soy boy Kratos way of having Lara acknowledge her ‘mistakes’ and ‘do better’.
Of course she’ll have a DEI companion or two to help her see the errors of her past life.
It will be brave, bold and stunning. Critics will laud the narrative reboot as being up there with God Of War.
There will also be one psycho review like the hilarious and legendary Spider Man 2 “positive messaging” one.
It will acknowledge the original trilogy (hence the release) but go the soy boy Kratos way of having Lara acknowledge her ‘mistakes’ and ‘do better’.
Of course she’ll have a DEI companion or two to help her see the errors of her past life.
It will be brave, bold and stunning. Critics will laud the narrative reboot as being up there with God Of War.
There will also be one psycho review like the hilarious and legendary Spider Man 2 “positive messaging” one.
GymWolf
Gold Member
I like her knockers.I like the knock off
captainnapalm
Member
If you were paying attention to the story of Shadow of the Tomb Raider, this has basically already happened. Lara was being shamed and guilt-tripped through that whole game, basically treated like the villain at times. It's why the whole ending was such a damp squib. The moral panic over colonialism runs strongly through that game. Lara couldn't even change her outfits into anything "disrespectful" while she was in the tribe's village.
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
There is no need to change anything, just do this:
Dr.Morris79
Member
I gotta get outta here, it's too much in here..If you are wondering the reason to this,here are the writers:
MonkeyClaw36
Banned
Equinsu Ocha!
ozz ex machina
Member
People like to forget that if us Brits didn't liberate all these treasures from all these barbaric places the artifacts would have been destroyed by their own cultures.
Thank us Brits and bow to the empire.
Thank us Brits and bow to the empire.
