It's "Lara", bro.
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Tomb Raider |OT| Lara's Misfortune
- Thread starter Fracas
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The game actually forces you to do this because the crawlspaces are loading areas.
Krappadizzle
Member
I didn't spoil anything for myself as I was much further than your spoiler. But, you don't know how to spoil shit, simple as that. Or I guess, technically, you know how to spoil very well and just try to be dismissive about others and just don't care.
It does indeed have controller support. I stuck with KB/M though because there I can headshot about 10 guys with kb/m in the time I can half-assedly aim at one baddie with the controller.
Can Crusher
Banned
I agree that next time around they can make the game harder.
By the way is there another difficulty unlocked when you beat the game?
The game is a joke when it comes to difficulty.
The game is a joke when it comes to difficulty.
Wrong! I jumped at a wolf appearance early on and I was too close to it to get a clean shot.
For an even better experience play on Easy mode. I heard that it's basically just like watching a 10 hour movie!
Am I the only one hoarding skill points and salvage? I've got 5 skill points and a little over 1000 salvage and so far I've only spent one point on being able to hold a charged shot longer. I'm having fun using the the bow and so far haven't run any situation that make me think I should be upgrading.
Normally I wouldn't say anything, but your attitude has rubbed me the wrong way:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428781
duckroll said:
It's not anybody's stupidity. You're doing it wrong.
I guess Red Dead Redemption is a survival horror game because I got jumped by a Bobcat while riding around in the night.
thesolidshark
Member
Did he have to buy the games to confirm his hatred, or does he automatically hate games altogether? I see him more vocally hating on things in games he doesn't like that will bring down most of the experience for him.
This is really disheartening; I was at least expecting something like the bolded. Sounds like it'd be challenging for combat if there was a mode to play as one of the islanders, and survive Lara.
captainnapalm
Member
Are people getting the impression that the game is fairly lengthy if you take your time and explore everything and do all the side stuff? Or is this a straight action game where you barrel through the main story?
Can Crusher
Banned
Why are you like this? Why do you care.
You like hard games, with hard combat and deep gameplay systems and other people just wanna go on a ride. Escapism, learn about it.
toastyToast
Member
Well you said that there isn't any element of horror in the game and that's incorrect.
Some of those mountain lion attacks made me jump more than anything in any Dead Space game.
And there are room for both people in this thread.
If it doesn't apply to you, then it isn't a negative. For others it is and talking about it is useful.
The problem with the game is that at times it feels so easy, that it feels like you already broke the game. I'm playing on hard and this feels like normal for any other game. The skills flat out break the game due to the fact that you pretty much can spam arrows the entire time. Once you upgrade dodge, then everything is a cakewalk. There isn't any challenge in the combat.
Hell Alan Wake on Normal feels much harder than this.
If people want to go for a ride then they can watch movies or ride a rollercoaster. If people want to play a game then they should be playing something that requires player input and effort.
By the way I am not saying that this game is some heavy handed "move analog stick forward" cinematic QTE experience. The game has enough game play and variety to it to keep you occupied. I was contesting the statement that this is a survival horror game... even when compared to RE4 it's not really one. It's a full on action/adventure game with big emphasis on action.
And if people aren't looking for a challenge and just want to experience a game... they should be playing every game on Easy mode. I am playing on Hard because I don't want that type of experience but right now Hard is about the same as Normal as most other modern games. Like right now RE4 on Normal is way harder than this, let's not even compare this to RE4 Professional mode. If Hard isn't hard then what's the point of multiple difficulties in a game?
Especially when so many reviews lauded the game for this very thing.
toastyToast
Member
If by side stuff you mean the tombs then they only add up to about half an hour extra. Pretty much all 1-2 step puzzles.
Collecting trinkets for XP could add a couple hours but, essentially, this is a linear game with shit strewn all over the place for you to collect.
It's that first time "accessible to everyone" syndrome because its a "new" IP and they need to rake in and attract as many people as possible.
Maybe the sequel will grow a pair? I guess Ill be seeing for myself six hours from now.
Can Crusher
Banned
You know what I mean with being taken for a ride.
Games don't have to be challenging, they have to be fun. Fun is really the only metric that counts. What's fun for you and what's fun for me might be different though.
But yeah, I agree the only thing this and REs4 have in common are the QTE deaths. I also agree that the game on hard should be hard, not easy.
captainnapalm
Member
That sounds slightly disappointing. Collectibles are fine, but I was getting the impression that the game was offering more substantial side content than an extra half hour of tombs. Ah well, as long as the main story is cool.
It definitely feels like that "everyone is a winner" mentality. If health didn't regenerate then I might be able to roll with it more but as it stands, it's hard to call this a good shooter because of how easy it is.
Yeah, had to use a gamepad to pass that part, with the keyboard was simply bugged.
Aw man health regenerates? For some reason I thought there were med kits or herbs or something.
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SlasherJPC
Banned
All this fighting. Geez guys. The people that hate the game, let them hate it. It's pretty apparenty if you ask me, the majority of people are having a good time with this. So enjoy it. :d Let them worry about continuing a game they don't like or didn't like before they even bought it.
Extremely quickly too.
He said the first hour was boring and sucked. Pretty sure nothing has changed since except for more disappointment (obviously)
I got to the 2nd campfire in the first area and it's a small but slightly open area that has various collectibles scattered around. It's somewhat fun to look for them but they serve no purpose but to give you even more XP, as if you didn't already get enough in this game. I've already leveled up twice and am very close to a third and I've done almost no story stuff in this coastal forest area or whatever it is.
Also I got an achievement for killing and looting 10 animals. What the hell am I looting? It seems to be nothing but even more XP. You get some for killing and then a lot more for "looting".
There are quivers of bows literally every ten feet. It's so ridiculous.
Every single theme that is played up in the cutscenes is immediately invalidated by the gameplay.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Yea I would have loved to see this tweaked.
This game looks so amazing, really surprised by it's visuals. The opening sucked, but it's getting slowly better, the game manages to create a real mood and sense of place very quickly, and the storytelling is that nice level of cluttered as to create a sense of unease and confusion while still creating intrigue, it's good, apart from one major issue. Fuck Quick Time Events. Seriously, what the fuck? You want me to watch your cutscene? Fine, you want to press random buttons to make it continue, and if I don't, you make me do it again? Fuck that. We had a thread yesterday about if people should be critical of game design as an absolute, I can say as an absolute that these QTEs are notably damaging the quality of this game, and whoever decided to include them should feel pretty bad right now.
Yea there are a few cognitive dissonance issues
toastyToast
Member
Didn't mean to disappoint. The tombs are literally one physics puzzle each. It's almost strange that people spent so much time on the art only for you to pass through them in a couple minutes or so. I was expecting there to at least be tomb like environments during the main quest but so far, it's an action game with very good traversal.
The collectibles are little artifacts that Lara narrates a description of (expertly for some reason) and documents that give a little insight into the characters and the history of the island. Everything else is XP
MrCookiepants
Member
His reaction is understandable. It's annoying enough having morons whining about the tiniest detail being spoiled. But for someone to highlight the damn black bar and then blame someone else for being spoiled... absolutely ridiculous.
captainnapalm
Member
That's cool. I love it when collectibles help flesh out the story through text and audio. I'm a sucker for those.
Who's fighting?
If people are allowed to come in this thread and oprah gif it up, why can't I talk about the things that are bothering me?
Snkfanatic
Banned
I agree with this, don't click any spoiler text and you are golden. Shesh
On topic though, I can't wait to get home and try this tonight.
Maxwood
Oh rock of ages, do not crumble, love is breathing still. Oh lady moon shine down, a little people magic if you will.
Quick question: how much are you actually shooting?
If it's more then Uncharted (I hate the comparison, but you get what I mean) or the previous QD Tomb Raiders, wich I loved btw, I guess i'll pass.
EDIT: Collectible stuff above me sounds great, love those
If it's more then Uncharted (I hate the comparison, but you get what I mean) or the previous QD Tomb Raiders, wich I loved btw, I guess i'll pass.
EDIT: Collectible stuff above me sounds great, love those
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
It might be that someone is playing through the game and thinks he might be further than the person who posted, only for it to turn out that the spoiler tag is about something that comes later.
I don't see the problem in saying something like (third level spoiler)
spoiler here
I haven't played the game yet but I would like to participate in discussions while I'm playing through it, rather than have to wait until I beat the entire game before I can enter this thread.