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Toonami |Feb15| Giraffes are awesome, I love giraffes
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BassForever
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"Hey we're gonna adapt this shonen manga that does pretty well with sales and is close to finishing"
'That's great, lets introduce filler concepts and skip important story scenes'
"Oh hey our TG anime became popular and the manga got even more popular, lets do a second season"
'That's awesome, but lets make sure to skip a bunch of story content and skip ahead because everyone's read the manga and we don't need to show every scene'
I mean what part of that doesn't sound brilliant?
All that money!
AquaWateria
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The series is actually Seinen, but something I don't understand is why give it to Studio Pierrot, as they mainly specialize in Shonen not Seinen.
Should of gave it to a Studio that can handle Seinen adaptions.
They would of made more money if they had adapted it more properly.
Imperial Bishop
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I don't want to play devil's advocate, but I think most of the blame is unfairly placed on the studio instead of the production staff.
AquaWateria
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True true, the production staff most of the time is what makes it or breaks it for a series
TheRealTalker
Banned
could one elaborate with the reasoning behind the production staff
excuse my ignorance
excuse my ignorance
Adapting Seinen isn't any harder than Shonen - if the script writer, director, etc. are competent they can handle the show. Seinen and Shonen aren't even different genres, they just represent different target audiences.
It's hard to parse out who exactly is at fault for some of the decisions that went into the Tokyo Ghoul anime but I feel pretty confident not all of them were made by the animators that work at Studio Pierrot. As Bishop says, I'm sure the production committee shares some of the blame.
I'm pretty sure Bishop meant production committee instead of staff. A production committee is made up of those who pay to get the actual anime made. If you look at the credits of any anime, you'll see "__________ Committee" or something similar mentioned. In the case of manga adaptations, the publisher of the original manga will be on the committee. The original author may or may not have some degree of say. The TV station that airs the show, merchandisers, etc. may also be on the committee as well. As investors, they get a voice (and for some shows its a LOUD voice) in how an adaptation may proceed and what not. If their aim is to just throw something together to advertize the manga, you may get weird adaptations choice like what Tokyo Ghouls seems to be experiencing.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
I don't know too much, but if I remember right, the production committee are the guys who plan out the adaptation (budget, marketing, staff), the animation studio provides the resources, and the staff pretty much does all the animation grunt work.
This is just a guess, but I think Tokyo Ghoul's problem was that the production committee wanted to get to the "interesting" parts quicker and sped through important character building parts.
Edit: Or what Crocodile said.
This is just a guess, but I think Tokyo Ghoul's problem was that the production committee wanted to get to the "interesting" parts quicker and sped through important character building parts.
Edit: Or what Crocodile said.
TheRealTalker
Banned
oh that makes sense
seeing as Toei sensors things and cuts corners with budget.... this is likely those committee members trying to make it profitable rather then being a good adaptation
seeing as Toei sensors things and cuts corners with budget.... this is likely those committee members trying to make it profitable rather then being a good adaptation
Imperial Bishop
Banned
Well of course, that's why we get stuff like this in Toriko.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nLcPbDBJzU
What's funny is the very first frame of the video is Tommyrodd, the series' "Knight of Cerebus" and then "HAPPY FUN TIME SONG HOORAY"
Imperial Bishop
Banned
An Invader Zim comic series is coming.
You thought it was a turkey, but it was I, GIR!
Next episode of one piece on toonami is fantastically animated, also they gave a fuck when a big event is happening in one piece or a new precure character is being introduced.
You can tell when toei gives a damn by checking the staff list of the upcomeing episode(director,storyboarder,animation director and key animator).
The problem with toei is there spread way to thin now adays they have too many animes running at the same time(6 to 7 animes at the same time) and there movies are bigger then they use to be.
There top talents are rotating between 6-7 animes instead of working on one anime and whenever a big movie is the works it hurts every tv anime there working on as they pull the talents from those shows.
They have a ton of talented directors, animation directors and key animator they work with but not enough to cover everything, if they stopped making movies or worked on only 4 animes at a time it would make a huge difference.
When it involves the selling of PreCure tat.
Uuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
That's an actual screencap from an actual episode of One Piece. 590, to be exact.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
Man, I really want to post gifs from this week's JoJo, but there's a good chance it'll come to the block and I don't want to ruin the experience for you guys. It's so good.
UltraGunner
Banned
I think I remember reading an article a few years back that looked into the mentality that goes into working on an anime from the major studios. Toei flat out said that they're more concerned with making money than any artistic statement.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
If I had some of the biggest money-making franchises in anime history, I wouldn't give a damn about artistic statements either.
TheRealTalker
Banned
Uuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
If only Toriko had a better adaptation
BassForever
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Its too bad because Toriko does get really good especially since the time skip.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
It's like a game of "Guess which of these characters are anime original filler characters!"
TheRealTalker
Banned
series gets good after awhile as well
and just gets better as it progresses once the mangaka got into it
pacing is very nice and not slow like some series (for the manga that is)
oh well the anime is done...... and I don't expect it coming back any time soon or getting rebooted
that ship has sailed
BassForever
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Yeah the fuck up for the Toriko anime was bad from step 1, though at least ignoring the filler character and the tuned down violence it was fairly faithful... Until the ending where the anime team went snooker loopy with their filler end.
Not that we'll ever see the Toriko anime on Toonami, it apparently did so poorly for Funi they only dubbed the first season
Not that we'll ever see the Toriko anime on Toonami, it apparently did so poorly for Funi they only dubbed the first season
Uuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I can explain that.
Gourmet Hunters have "Full Course Menus", a menu of eight items of the best foods they've ever had.
The original Hunter, Acacia, had a Menu of extremely rare ingredients with Engrish names.
GOD was his main course, and Toriko's goal is to find GOD and eat it.
Another one of his ingredients is PAIR, which is literally a monkey's testicles.
Perhaps to change things up &
BassForever
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Time skip is an easy story mechanic that can be used any number of ways to move the story forward. Even among the big shonen series the reason for each time skip is pretty different both why it happened and what effect it had on the story.
The short answer is DB/Z did it and its the super popular series everyone tries to emulate to this day so of course time skip is obligatory
I find it funny since DBZ technically time skipped all the time and the biggest time skip turned out to be one of the 'worst' IMO.
Also, My Hero Academia is getting an official print release from Viz. Basically they are filling the gaps. Fingers crossed this means it makes a bigger splash in the west!
Also, My Hero Academia is getting an official print release from Viz. Basically they are filling the gaps. Fingers crossed this means it makes a bigger splash in the west!
Future DBZ 'spoilers'
There is a year before the Saiyans arrive.
There is more time between
Frieza and the Android arc
Several characters stay
a year in a time chamber during the Cell arc.
And of course the 'big one'.
I dunno the time that passes between Saiyans and the next arc.
BassForever
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IIRC it's 6 months between
Gohan and co leaving for Namek and arriving, then they spend at least a month there as Goku recovers half way during their time on the planet and it takes him 10 days to arrive
Imperial Bishop
Banned
Time skips existed and were a popular literary device before Dragon Ball.
ASSauLTxMasTER
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KLK Opening is cut tonight.
More importantly Fist of the North Star has a time skip right in the middle of the two series.
ASSauLTxMasTER
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Dunno.
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