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He is such a beater. Showing off his dual posting powers.
Doctor Decimate
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or simply end it with that fight, on some kind of larger scale or with incorporating other elements into it. i already said the movie felt kind of drawn out.
but that's what the Hanafuda match was. it didn't communicate that feeling of teamwork and connection to even half the degree the fight did.
it's not even the theme so much as how that theme was handled, with large numbers of people deciding to lend a character their strength in one way or another. it's an oddly specific type of scene for how often it's been done.
BassForever
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well, not just the highlighted Brain Scratch but everything i cut out of the post
I only saw the bolded part lol
As I said after the top 4 the rest of the list gets pretty gray, my opinion on the episodes fluxes greatly depending on my mood. Black Dog Serenade is imo the best Jett episode, Bohemian Rhapsody is a great Ed episode, and Sympathy for the Devil is a enjoyably dark and morbid episode with a great final scene between Spike and the villain.
Hard luck woman is my least favorite Fay episode which has a great set up/flash back but a pretty lame pay off at the end. Ganymede Elegy has the same issue of great set up with a poor pay off. Wild Horses I always found to be a boring episode even if the old guy was entertaining the plot with the smugglers that faye/jett took part in was meh and the baseball kid annoyed me.
foxuzamaki
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toonamigaf uses OTP alot and we're suppose to be the hardcore shonen thread
Doctor Decimate
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i thought Sympathy for the Devil was convoluted for no apparent reason, which is a problem with a couple of Bebop episodes (including the movie). Black Dog seemed to sprinkle Jet's past in randomly and to almost no effect, though it's a decent suspense episode. Bohemian Rhapsody i only really liked for the setting at the end.
isn't the pay-off for Hard Luck Woman supposed to be kinda lame? Ganymede Elegy does far and away the best job of developing Jet as a character which culminates in his acceptance of the other man, more or less, and it's pretty cool how the crew ends up kind of like villains. Wild Horses i would probably have to watch again but i really liked the setting, characters, and concept of that one.
I like the context of them both going after a bounty or something. That's what I think of when it comes to them both facing off, not just a fight-for-sake-of-fight.
I guess I can't get past the idea of Wolfwood VS Vash, basically. There's no reason almost ANYONE *should* be able to put up a decent fight VS Vash, but while the opponent is fighting simply "The Humanoid Typhoon", Vash is fighting your backstory, his own moral code, the fact he once saw you avoid driving over Kuroneko in your one act of kindness EVER in life, etc, etc.
I think I'd be more interested in seeing the entirety of the Bebop gang VS Vash. Ed would probably hack, and make Spike's backstory into the biggest pity party ever envisioned, and Vash would probably go for 40 years faking his own death, getting captured, and taking bullets just to make sure this poor, poor, POOR soul never has to go through pain again.
I don't think Vash would make it in the world of FMA.
BassForever
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I don't care about some random women in Jett's past that's never been mentioned before or after, where as his cyber arm was always a mystery that finally got explained.
It's not the reveal of the guy being a fat con artist that's bad, it's the "we tried to con you again" in the present that made me roll my eyes. Again it's really not that bad of an episode I just had to put something there and as I said it's my least favorite.
Imo the only really bad episodes of bebop are boogie woogie and cowboy andy. Other then those two at the bottom and the four I mentioned earlier at the top my list can be pretty in flux. Trying to pick my least favorite or "bottom 5" may be harder then a top 10 just because so many episodes are great.
Doctor Decimate
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the point of the woman was to show Jet's stubborn and overbearing personality, as well as provide a glimpse at what his past was like. i don't think "this is the guy who made Jet lose his arm" affected the episode in any way at all, really. you remove that and Black Dog is a standard episode that loses points from me for cheaply throwing in Jet's past to try to raise the stakes.
my memory's a little fuzzy. you mean the con man managing to escape with some people posing as the police?
i guess we know BassForever doesn't appreciate good comedy if he hates Cowboy Andy in addition to Hughes
(i never saw the whole "HE'S JUST LIKE YOU" thing that they were going on about, either.) Boogie Woogie Feng Shui's creep factor is the main thing weighing it down; everything else is at least ok, if underdeveloped. so for that reason i'd say my least favorite is Jamming with Edward, which is pretty boring. though Boogie Woogie is probably a close second.foxuzamaki
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too much conversation of the oversaturated cowboy bebop
BassForever
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Or her shallowness as a person to leave a guy who has things together for a clown who'd rather fuck around and be a very unstable element... Yeah this episode has always personally impacted me so I'll just drop it there
Also any episode focusing on Ed is a fantastic episode GMN.
And then there's me, whose never seen it.
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BassForever
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The greatest of all time is always worthy of discussion
Doctor Decimate
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well Jet was basically running her life. he was overly controlling, and that drove her away. yeah, the other guy was a clown, but that was the point. Jet drove her to the opposite end of the spectrum, to a guy that was dependent on her. she wanted to be allowed to make dangerous decisions, sort of like a rebellious teenager, and while that does make her kind of a shitty character it says a hell of a lot about Jet.
bleh. Mushroom Samba is awesome, but Jamming with Edward isn't even very funny and it has a boring central plot. also Hard Luck Woman is good for the girls leaving and that's about it
BassForever
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And to your comment about me not liking comedy, that's simply not true, I love good comedy which is why I'm watching SAO for the third time with everyone
Unspeakable Evil
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Ship all the shonen ships.
Doctor Decimate
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And to your comment about me not liking comedy, that's simply not true, I love good comedy which is why I'm watching SAO for the third time with everyone
but Hughes
The two episodes that stick out to me as less enjoyable than the rest are Boogie Woogie Feng Shui and Brain Scratch. For now I'll just say there aren't any moments or dialogues in those episodes that gel with me, and I simply find myself uninterested when watching those episodes.
Well no one ever said she was a smart person, as far as I know. But the point is that Jett really didn't have things together, which we also see in Black Dog Serenade. Jett thought he had everything together, but that's because he viewed the world through an idealistic lens which left him unable to actually see how things really were. That's why he was so blindsided when she left him, and why he never realized he'd been set up.
Doctor Decimate
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I HATE WRATH SO MUCH
I just prefer to refer to Team 10 as Shikamaru-Sonic the Hedgehog-Golden Showers.
BassForever
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Doctor Decimate
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hey, i wouldn't throw a knife in the forehead at somebody who looked exactly like my wife either.
Schadenfreude
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Pretty much. Hughes was a pretty regular dude.
BassForever
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He fought off Lust and was shown to be fast enough he probably could have startled Envy and fought the gun away. It's clearly established the only reason he was killed is because he couldn't hurt the image of his wife.
foxuzamaki
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bass leveling up in the heartless points again
foxuzamaki
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You seem to forget that lost stabbed him and he was already wounded, that there was no way he could get away from envy, who was more agile and quicker then lust anyways.
Infact he pretty much knew he was going to die, he was just trying to get the phonecall in before that happened
BassForever
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I already maxed out my dark side meter thanks to the reairing of that sin against humanity kickheart.
It was also in the middle of central and the homonculi couldn't risk killing him in a way that didn't look like natural murder. A gunshot or two from a knocked away gun would draw attention.
Well, i'm now kinda sad that the Club Nintendo Hanafuda cards are sold out now. I want to KOI KOI with Mario!
Schadenfreude
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Hawkeye so dumb.
She's a super-hot sharpshooter, not a meteorologist.
Doctor Decimate
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Seda, let's do this shit.
BassForever
Thinks Hughes from FMA was annoying
they'll cast you out. like a leper.
BassForever
Thinks Hughes from FMA was annoying
they'll cast you out. like a leper.
BassForever
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She's the only character in the series who could hold that flame inside of her
BassForever
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I cast you out of my circle of respected gaf colleagues, you bastard.
(I've not played ALBW, haha)
Doctor Decimate
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Schadenfreude
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Marksmen always need to be wary of the weather. Moreover, she works under the Flame Alchemist whose biggest weakness is water. She had no excuse!
BassForever
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Raxus should get a tag for his twitchy finger before I get one for hating Hughes, it's not even my most controversial opinion in toonami gaf lol
Schadenfreude
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