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BassForever
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Ironically the only group introduced after the first batch in the very first arc that I feel was appropriately numbered was the
Fullbringers there were exactly enough of them to give only the characters we care about a 1 on 1 fight and they were introduced to be villains in the end
Fake town arc was better then the current
shinobi war arc
shinobi war
lazybones18
Banned
This Naruto/Neji fight.....*yawn*
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
My favorite Shippuden ending is the 2nd one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCOcNyo9fd8
If only because the idea of an (alternate universe) school themed Naruto filler arc sounds awesome and they're still stupid for never following up on it.
Well that and it's the ending that famously "forgot" Tenten existed and later added her in, in a hilarious fashion...
If only because the idea of an (alternate universe) school themed Naruto filler arc sounds awesome and they're still stupid for never following up on it.
Well that and it's the ending that famously "forgot" Tenten existed and later added her in, in a hilarious fashion...
foxuzamaki
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You dont count.....huge parts of the plot including one that has been a mystery since the beginning of the entire series?
Schadenfreude
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Pfft.
There was a shit ton of different fights in the arc. Kishimoto practically revived half the world again. And the main fights in a lot of shonen always take longer than the others. I can't tell you how many times i've seen Luffy beat the shit out of someone, get the shit beaten out of him, then come back and finally beat the shit out of someone.
BassForever
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So they pulled a Nintendo with Luigi on that games cover?
You mean half those fights that were off screened like
Kakashi vs the mist swordsman
the 2nd in command to the thunder kage getting a 1 on 1 fight
Sasuke and Itachi vs Kabuto and Shika/Ino/Cho vs their former master
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Year of Tenten incoming?
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
yes yes yes I was gonna bring up that ending aswell, im all for a OVA or something for that
Ha, that's quite funny,
Tenten will be Hokage, just you watch.
Schadenfreude
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If Naruto were an American creation, it definitely would have happened. MLP recently did it, in fact.
foxuzamaki
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BassForever
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Maybe the anime fleshes out a lot of the fights during the latest Naruto arc, but in the manga half of them are a god damn joke and the war has a whole has been a massive waste of potential.
Speaking of wasted potential, Rock Lee training despite being so badly injured and being told he can never be a ninja again. True bro status here
Speaking of wasted potential, Rock Lee training despite being so badly injured and being told he can never be a ninja again. True bro status here
Schadenfreude
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The Bancho Naruto look was also a costume in one of the games. Neat stuff.
I like that one.
To each their own.
BassForever
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It's not like I wanted
the war arc
Neji, Sakura, Rock Lee, etc
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
ending 15 is one of my favorites, it also correlates with one of the OG naruto OPs where he also fights other people using purely martial arts
I'd have liked an arc based on the idea of the last movie (except not horrible), basically giving everyone what they always wanted in the illusion world and them rejecting it because they didn't earn it or whatever.
foxuzamaki
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oh for you guys catching up with naruto before shippuden, wherever your watching it on, do they have something called kakashi chronicles or something like that? if not, then you should go look for it, I highly recommend you watch it.
BassForever
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Wasn't that adapted into Shippuden episodes?
lazybones18
Banned
thanks for the Neji backstory *rolls eyes*
Time to pull out the alcohol.
BassForever
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Man the writing in part 1 can be really spectacular when it wants to be
Schadenfreude
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Huh? A lot of the
characters had fights in the arc. The Ino-Shika-Cho team alone took on both the Gold and Silver Brothers and Asuma. Not to mention the other things the rest of the teams did. And if you wanted something like how Oda does where there's an exact number of enemies so that each member has a one on one fight, then it'd take forever. And besides, it's that would be rather unrealistic in a full-scale war.
Wow I love this song. I should really force myself to watch shippuden sometime
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
your right, my mistake, why I got that confused is because in highschool I bought naruto volume 26 and volume 27 and they actually showed kakashi chronicles after the end of part 1 instead of like 4 years later in shippuden.
Schadenfreude
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Whoops. Guess I just repeated what you said in that earlier post that I missed. Let's just agree to disagree. I quite enjoyed what Kishimoto has done so far and I certainly find it more realistic than having an oddly convenient amount of fighters for all the main (side) characters.
BassForever
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I acknowledge that Shika/Ino/Cho got one of the better fights in the arc and Gaara got to face his revived dad, those are really it for fights with characters I care about. The rest of the Kohona 11 and Sand Nin aka the characters I cared about did jack squat for most of the arc. Sakura punched fake Neji (ooh), Sai showed up to grab Naruto in one chapter (ooh), Neji died to save Hinata/Naruto, Rock Lee got to punch Medara then we cut away to Sasuke and co for 15 chapters and when we return Medara/Obito are just owning again.
I'm not saying Bleach's fake town arc was some masterpiece, but in comparison it craps all over what Naruto has done.
I'd always rather have a convenient number of characters for the main cast + support characters I care about to fight then to just let MC be the only character who can do anything of note. Nothing shouts AWESOME like 5 chapters in a row of characters going "wow Naruto is so amazing look how much he's grown"
It made sense to have a segue story in the manga at that point to filler time during the "time skip"
Schadenfreude
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If only there was an action cartoon block of sorts that would air it. If only.
Read above.
Just like Dragon Ball Z!
BassForever
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Everyone was usually dead or unconscious during DBZ, generally it was more "survive til Goku gets here" then "wow look how awesome Goku has become". The "wow look how awesome Goku has become" happened more in Dragonball or the first half of the manga.
lazybones18
Banned
okay Naruto, enough trying to go Super Saiyan and all that shit. Just beat Neji already. Your match sucks
Schadenfreude
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:/ But
all of the side characters helped in taking out Obito. Random ninja from different villages helped. The problem with the system you mentioned is that would never have happened. Naruto would have been the only one to fight Obito and Madara.
BassForever
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And Schadenfreude, I'm saying I'd rather have what Oda does for Bleach not Naruto. What I wanted for Naruto was more things like the
where Naruto would team up with various characters from the Kohona 11 + Sand Nin and meet Ninja from other hidden villages to go on various missions. The story instead drops any notion of teamwork in favor of Naruto or Sasuke vs random Akatsuki memeber. The only characters who get scenes like that in part 2 are Team Shika/Ino/Cho and those are some of the best moments of part 2.
They were pretty much ineffectual, having a scene of the Kohona 11
is not what I call great teamwork or being important. In the end it was all irrelevant as
. Honestly Goku using everyone's energy for a spirit bomb was a better use of the cast then what happened during the battle with
Sasuke Retrieval Arc
They were pretty much ineffectual, having a scene of the Kohona 11
hitting Obito with massive kamehamaha no jutsu
Naruto won the fight with Talk no Jutsu, and he was only able to enter Obito's mind to do so once Sasuke arrived to show up.
Obito
But it was still annoying as shit.
CAN GOHAN AND KRILLIN SURVIVE AGAINST NAPPPA LONG ENOUGH FOR GOKU TO SAVE THEM?
CAN GOHAN AND KRILLIN SURVIVE AGAINST RECOOME LONG ENOUGH FOR GOKU TO SAVE THEM?
CAN GOHAN AND KRILLIN SURVIVE AGAINST FRIEZA LONG ENOUGH FOR GOKU TO SAVE THEM?
Schadenfreude
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Now we're talking about Shippuden as a whole? I'll admit that the rest of Shippuden failed in giving the spotlight to the minor characters.
lazybones18
Banned
Naruto vs Neji: 5/10
Agree.
General/vague commentary: Having watched Bleach up to where it is currently in dub, Naruto to somewhere in the Pain arc, and One Piece up to where it is on Toonami, I think Naruto 'has its moments' whereas Bleach is mostly godawful and One Piece is mostly enjoyable.
Unspeakable Evil
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Neji got taken out by such a simple trick. And he talked so much trash too.
BassForever
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I think all of Shippuden including the war did a poor job with that, the war I'll admit was better but still not anywhere near as much as it should have been especially for how damn long it was. The war proper started in chapter 515 and is still ongoing, you really want to say in 144 chapters you couldn't find 1-2 chapters for each of the Kohona 11, the 3 Sand Nin,
Sasuke and his trope
The best parts of Shippuden are ironically the various training arcs which happen every other arc, honestly I wouldn't mind if Naruto was just a story about him training because it's the one thing Kishi consistently writes really well. Course I do have a problem with the fact we time skipped so that Naruto would get older and be trained only to have him need to train more every bloody arc. If we were going to do that why time skip?
lazybones18
Banned
And why in the world would they use "Hit it or Quit it" in the episode title if sex ain't involved? 
Schadenfreude
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They also helped fight off the 10 tails off-shoots and pulled out the tailed beasts. Gaara is also now fighting Madara. So we had some fights for the minor characters and now they're helping with the main bad guy. They're doing much better than they would with the Oda method.
BassForever
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I've always said this for the big 3
One Piece is like a graph of Y=X, the longer it goes the better it gets
Naruto is like a graph of y = 1/x (1/x) where it rapidly gets better and better til it his the middle of the graph (end of part 1) then begins to descend in the second half (part 2)
Bleach is like a graph of y = sin (x) it goes back and forth from being good to being awful and can make you sick looking at it
Yes because that's a much better use of their Ninja powers then having them get 1 on 1 fights against
famous ninja from the past
pull the 10 tails out of Obito
the armies of all 5 major Ninja villages
Doctor Decimate
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this is how i would characterize the shows as well.
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