Some of the wise-ass-isms I've read so far:EtobiCOKE jokes to dramatically spike
The ongoing Toronto Star article. They've been investigating Ford's substance abuse problems for two months.
http://www.thestar.com/news/city_ha..._rob_ford_in_crack_cocaine_video_scandal.html
Robyn Doolittle articles should be banned from Toronto-GAF.
"Initially, the Somali man who contacted the Star". Toronto Pirates? Video for ransom?
Whether you like Ford or not, the entire thing is hard to believe. I even thought The Star had more integrity than that.
Kinitari has complained about the continuous reference and emphasis of the ethnicity of the drug dealers by the Star. But I followed the Star link and didn't read anything about "Toronto Pirates." Are you insinuating that Somali == Pirates?
One person, who described himself as an organizer in the Somali community, told the Star he had copies of a video that, he said, showed Ford smoking crack. This man was acting as a sort of broker for the person who had shot the video. What followed was a protracted discussion between the man and Star reporters. The broker said he represented two Somali men who had supplied crack cocaine to the mayor in the Dixon Rd. area. The Star was not able to verify those claims.
WTF, was that just an earthquake?
My house just shook while I'm on the can.
WTF, was that just an earthquake?
My house just shook while I'm on the can.
Robyn Doolittle articles should be banned from Toronto-GAF.
"Initially, the Somali man who contacted the Star". Toronto Pirates? Video for ransom?
Whether you like Ford or not, the entire thing is hard to believe. I even thought The Star had more integrity than that.
Gentle rocking at my house woke me up. SO CONFUSED.WTF, was that just an earthquake?
My house just shook while I'm on the can.
WTF, was that just an earthquake?
My house just shook while I'm on the can.
So you are saying that after gawker runs the story confirming they saw what the star saw, the star runs the story also and that means they don't have integrity?
They kinda have been sitting on this for 2 weeks
Felt it slightly up here at yonge and finch
Can you confirm, without a doubt, from a cell phone video, that Ford was in fact smoking crack? Because I doubt that very much.
I'm not insinuating anything. They admit they are drug dealers and are now trying to extort money out of the highest bidder for this video. I don't care where they are from, this shit isn't ok. And yea, they have a pirate mentality.
No, but that's not what's up for debate here. The Toronto Star wrote an article about two guys watching a video and what it appeared to depict; considering the consistency of the accounts, I am fairly certain that at least a half dozen people have watched a video of what appears to be Ford smoking crack. If the Star printed "FORD CONFIRMED CRACK-SMOKER" then your line of questioning would be relevant but they didn't so it's not.Can you confirm, without a doubt, from a cell phone video, that Ford was in fact smoking crack? Because I doubt that very much.
Please, do go on!I'm not insinuating anything. They admit they are drug dealers and are now trying to extort money out of the highest bidder for this video. I don't care where they are from, this shit isn't ok. And yea, they have a pirate mentality.
Can you confirm, without a doubt, from a cell phone video, that Ford was in fact smoking crack? Because I doubt that very much.
How is this for integrity: the star was offered to buy the tape after seeing it, but didn't. You know, as the sellers are drug dealers and all.
I think the "Trudeau is a fag" comment, coupled with the picture of him with the recently deceased guy, is cause for concern by itself.The video is bad enough, even if Ford isn't smoking anything illegal (if you want to be that naive), it's just another instance of him being a buffoon with his comments in the video. The guy is a disgrace of a Mayor.
Even if you couldn't confirm it was crack, you probably could confirm he was doing drugs. The star says them self they had no way to confirm the video but it looked like, and sounded like ford. (Mainly because they are watching on a cellphone) The crack part came from the drug dealers themselves.
You could confirm its him being racist, you could confirm him using homophobic slurs, however.
Rofl, I don't even understand what you are saying.
Non-Somali people have done this sort of thing in the past. I think, in fact the majority of people who've done this sort of thing in the past have not been Somali. When a Somali person does it, it's suddenly a point of interest and an insinuation of their innate 'pirate mentality'?
No, but that's not what's up for debate here. The Toronto Star wrote an article about two guys watching a video and what it appeared to depict; considering the consistency of the accounts, I am fairly certain that at least a half dozen people have watched a video of what appears to be Ford smoking crack. If the Star printed "FORD CONFIRMED CRACK-SMOKER" then your line of questioning would be relevant but they didn't so it's not.
Please, do go on!
"Without a doubt" roughly equals "beyond a reasonable doubt", the standard for a criminal conviction.
I don't think anyone is saying that. But to run with the analogy, we certainly would have at this point "reasonable grounds to believe" that Ford does, indeed, smoke crack.
Which is to say, in my opinion, that saying "I find this hard to believe" doesn't really fly at this point.
How is this for integrity: the star was offered to buy the tape after seeing it, but didn't. You know, as the sellers are drug dealers and all.
Believe what you will, but make sure you watch this video.
WTF, was that just an earthquake?
My house just shook while I'm on the can.
I'm just going to say that the Leaf in there is Bozak.Meanwhile in Toronto..
I felt it up in Vaughan. Must have taken GAF servers out.
Alleged drug dealers. Just like how Ford is an alleged drug user. You seem to be getting snagged on that word.So we have lowered our standards to believing drug dealers now?
Meanwhile in Toronto..
Alleged drug dealers. Just like how Ford is an alleged drug user. You seem to be getting snagged on that word.
http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2013/05/16/toronto_mayor_rob_ford_in_crack_cocaine_video_scandal.html said:Rob Ford in 'crack cocaine' video scandal
A video that appears to show Torontos mayor smoking crack is being shopped around by a group of Somali men involved in the drug trade.
So we have lowered our standards to believing drug dealers now?
So you would be fine with The Star posting an article about you without first confirming the details?
What?
I know everyone on here hates Ford, but this story just has way too many holes. Don't conflate what you want to believe with the truth.
See the problem is, The Star seems to forget that. This leads the weak minded to believe that this is fact and not what it actually is: weak allegations.
No, I read that headline and I think that it is clear to anyone with critical thinking skills that we're at the "allegation" stage, not the "Ford's going to jail" stage.See the problem is, The Star seems to forget that. This leads the weak minded to believe that this is fact and not what it actually is: weak allegations.
A grainy cell phone video can confirm that? Please. You don't have reasonable grounds. You have a video that no one has seen, besides media who want to blow everything out of proportion for their own gain, and you have crack dealers saying it was crack.
My door was jittering and hitting the frame.I was sleeping, not sure if I felt it or not, I did wake up before my alarm though
The Star is sticking their necks out on this one. I'm sure their lawyers have vetted the story pretty thoroughly.
Sooo
New Leafs victory gif yes/no?