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Total War: Rome 2 |OT| I Came, I Saw, I Came
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Alessandro
Member
Few things I noticed:
Things to improve:
- On normal factions are more active: they send economic treats, request to join wars, etc. compared to Shogun 2.
- You can disband a unit and then rebuild it later to maintain its "legacy".
Things to improve:
- Enemy recruitment: I get attacked by armies consisting of mostly light ranged units. Can't resolve automatically because I get vvery low odds but if I manually play the battle my legionaries and cohorts slice through them like butter. Not fun to play because you're forced to engage in 5-8 minutes long battles that only the AI seems to pretend you're not gonna win.
- Revamp sieges? I've yet to play a defensive and attacking siege in which the odds weren't heavily inn my favour, like 90-95% every time. Rebels and enemy armies simply don't pose a threat.
- Tutorial. I had to play a few hours before realising Dignitaries are Shinsegumi and Champions are Foreign Advisors from Shogun 2. Just do a "you're a Shogun 2 player? Here's the differences!".
- I still have no idea what's the purpose of the general overview tab: I sometimes arrange marriages and slander some of my generals but really have no idea what's the meaning of these actions. Except losing some senators every now and then.
- Too many household traits with the same characteristics.
blainethemono
Member
was messing with this just now...seems like unless I have Unlimited vram checked, the other settings don't change anything
unlimited vram off - http://abload.de/img/rome22013-09-0318-35-5xbx1.png
unlimited vram on - http://abload.de/img/rome22013-09-0318-35-n2y8a.png
everything else on ultra/extreme
It certainly feels like more of a challenge than Shogun 2. The AI is less retarded, and creating a strong economy is more involved than just shoving a whole bunch of money making buildings into a city.
There's 3 ways to win. A cultural victory, a military victory, and I think the final one is an economic victory.
All require you to have complete control over certain regions, but each have different secondary objectives. A military victory might require you to have control of 80 regions on top of the 6 required. An economic victory might require that you maintain a certain level of income for a specific period of time.
There's 3 ways to win. A cultural victory, a military victory, and I think the final one is an economic victory.
All require you to have complete control over certain regions, but each have different secondary objectives. A military victory might require you to have control of 80 regions on top of the 6 required. An economic victory might require that you maintain a certain level of income for a specific period of time.
This is what I have been reading around the net.
Its using up 2.6GB VRAM at the moment with Veg Alpha on, 2.3 without
Runs fine for me at full tilt 1200p. My card is set to throttle at 79C and I am hitting that but no noticeable framerate drops.
Palette Swap
Member
After spending a couple hours on it tonight and as a huge antiquity dork, it's an absolutely awesome beta.
Fiddling with the settings, most don't seem to impact that much the performance on my tired 560Ti, that is it doesn't run well anyway. I'll probably Dennis this shit, crank up everything, enjoy my 5 FPS and the smell of my card burning.
Also, fuck that prologue and being sent back to the title screen after winning battles. Without saving, obviously. Happened to me twice tonight.
Fiddling with the settings, most don't seem to impact that much the performance on my tired 560Ti, that is it doesn't run well anyway. I'll probably Dennis this shit, crank up everything, enjoy my 5 FPS and the smell of my card burning.
Also, fuck that prologue and being sent back to the title screen after winning battles. Without saving, obviously. Happened to me twice tonight.
Here some 1080p screen, nearly maxed out
I guess I shouldn't be surprised this is slaying all machine right now. My goodness. Those are incredible shots.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
I think they all can if they have enough population, proper structures and have achieved a certain development level.
I've read that only one city per province can have walls.
The capital of a province can have proper walls I think. However I believe you can upgrade villages to have palisades eventually.
Chance Hale
Member
Thanks for the response, wasn't trying to imply it was all on Nvidia of course but most major games these days seem to have drivers that launch with them so I suppose I was hoping for that sometime soon. Been a while since I've had a Total War game at launch
The unit detail really is insane, shame about how everything else is so inconsistent and the one AA solution so terrible. Hopefully the issues are ironed out some time soon.
Really don't understand why it launched with an AA on/off switch that doesn't seem to work. As I said I got the last few games past launch but they all had multiple AA settings and the like. The one Rome II has just doesn't work and I can't downsample because of the performance issues.
Chance Hale
Member
Hit K to remove the UI and then insert brings it up close to that cinematic view.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Reading about the problems in this thread it makes me glad I didn't jump on board.
Atraveller
Banned
To encourage purchases of other entries of the series, maybe.
Because it allows you to skip all the other menus and load directly the campaign.
6000 Praetorians vs 3000 Berserkers interesting that performance not bad as expected also in other video the Berserkers destroyed the Heroes Of Sparta but crushed here.
So Praetorians seem be OP unit at moment
So Praetorians seem be OP unit at moment
Cameron122
Member
GOTY after a few patches.
Atraveller
Banned
I hope CA work their asses fast.
Those unit cards. What the hell. They block a ton of screen estate.
All Roman unit cards look same also so your kind of fucked trying to sort out your standard legionnaires and Praetorians in heat of battle
The projectile hits feel so much more organic and brutal than they have in the series.
The volley of Pilum before a legionary unit commits is just too good.
Pending that they get some things patched up with AI(CA) and even a bit of GFX tweaking(Nvidia) I think we have a winnar.
The volley of Pilum before a legionary unit commits is just too good.
Pending that they get some things patched up with AI(CA) and even a bit of GFX tweaking(Nvidia) I think we have a winnar.
Not sure if this was a bug or if this is just the way the prologue is set up. I finished the Defense of Visuvius and after the battle...am again asked to fortify my troops and defend Visuvius again? Like with the same dialogue and everything. I routed those fuckers in the first battle by the way so it's not like I failed the mission.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
My i5 2500K is going to love this game!
Hearing disappointment about the anti-aliasing and UI is disappointing, if expected. Honestly, as much as I love Shogun 2, I've felt the presentation of the series has regressed pretty noticeably since Medieval II. I know it's not a favourite for many, but in terms of a clean, easy to understand UI and graphics engine that didn't alias to shit, and had a vibrant clean look, Medieval II was leaps and bounds above Empire, Napoleon, and Shogun 2.
The advent of heavy shader use has probably been detrimental to the series for aliasing.
Kill me.
Hearing disappointment about the anti-aliasing and UI is disappointing, if expected. Honestly, as much as I love Shogun 2, I've felt the presentation of the series has regressed pretty noticeably since Medieval II. I know it's not a favourite for many, but in terms of a clean, easy to understand UI and graphics engine that didn't alias to shit, and had a vibrant clean look, Medieval II was leaps and bounds above Empire, Napoleon, and Shogun 2.
The advent of heavy shader use has probably been detrimental to the series for aliasing.
Cameron122
Member
I understand I have an i5 2300K D:
Finally played a good chunk of the campaign and it's awesome! Settings are turned down so forgetting that for a moment, I'm having a ball. Everything I do seems to have more purpose than previous Total Wars. There's an enemy army moving through my territory, in previous games I may have just let him go, but it's presence has taken such a huge toll on my cities public order that I pretty much have to attack him. I win the battle, my people are happy, my general goes up a rank, it all feels far more important than previous total wars.
Same thing happened to me and I didn't get the achievement for completing the prologue. Seems to be a bit buggy. I've got my save from just before the final battle. I'll re-attempt it after a patch.
I haven't had too many problems so far in the 9 hours that I've played today (loving it, by the way). I've had a couple of crashes. One during the prologue when I brought up the recruit mercenary tab and then another when I was fiddling with graphical settings. With the latter my screen went red and my computer seemed to just shit itself.
My framerate has been pretty decent. I've got a mixture of Ultra and Extreme at 1080p with High unit size; AA, SSAO and distortion effects on; and vegetation alpha and DOF off. Ticking the 'unlimited video memory' box makes a huge difference. I didn't see a hit to my performance and the game looks significantly better. It's just a pity the AA is so damn blurry. By the way, changing unit size gave me a roughly 15fps boost in the benchmark going from Ultra to High. Otherwise, it's not as mind-blowingly gorgeous as I thought it would be, but it still has its moments of looking really pretty. The water, in particular, is amazing.
My specs, if anyone is interested for comparisons - i5 3570k @ 4.2, 7970 Ghz, 8GB RAM.
My understanding is that you should try and offset high squalor buildings with cultural buildings that improve happiness. It would probably also pay to keep a few troops present in a high squalor town too.
I currently cannot build high level industrial and agricultural buildings in my capital as Iceni. I'm waiting for population growth so I can expand my capital and build a cultural building to make it safe to progress.
Edit: Also just figured out how to transport troops over the sea (didn't play much of the prologue). Took me a while to figure it out, but once I did I showed those Hibernians who rules Britannia
Had a great naval battle with the Hibernian natives. Close victory. Lost a lot of men. But conducted a beach landing against their village garrison with the remainder of my forces. According to the AI, I was outmatched, but I showed them!
Had to take care of their naval reinforcements before I could land. But once I did the rest of the battle was easy. The AI was so focused on holding the port capture point, that it allowed me to sneak my slingers and skirmishers op to the cliffs above them and shred them all to pieces while my melee forces bottles them in the port at both exits.
I love challenging battles like that. The last one I can think of that was similar was many years ago while playing Napoleon. Managed to take a region with 700 men against 3000 by holding the high ground.
Same thing happened on the subsequent mission. Completed the battle, it spit me out to the campaign map as though the battle had never happened and now I need to fight it again.
mercenar1e
Member
Not sure if this helps performance but I'm quoting it anyway. Can anyone test this out?
mercenar1e
Member
Optimization problems and the incredible long wait for turns are the downsides to the game
Atraveller
Banned
I suck at strategy games, gonna restart the whole campaign.
Cameron122
Member
The glitches and optimization got me down
Well I think I am done with this game until I get a new computer or a patch or two has come out. Right now the only settings that are smooth look god awful, worse then Shogun 2 for me. Though that is not the worse part the shadows are bugged for me. They are as black as night and I found no way to fix them. Based on the forums I am not the only one who is having this problem either.
It's too bad I was looking forward to the game. Oh well. I am not really mad more disappointed. My PC is old so I knew this was a possibility , I took a chance and lost. Rome II will be the last major game I buy for the PC until my new rig.
It's too bad I was looking forward to the game. Oh well. I am not really mad more disappointed. My PC is old so I knew this was a possibility , I took a chance and lost. Rome II will be the last major game I buy for the PC until my new rig.
publicpwnerer
Member
Rome II plays very differently (Entirely different) to previous entries. I restarted myself when I got the hang of the mechanics and general do's & don'ts.