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Transgaf: 'cause boys will be girls (and vice versa)

Jin34

Member
Van Owen: this might help, go look up Chyna and Patricia Araujo, then come back and tell us which one you are more attracted to.
 

Alfarif

This picture? uhh I can explain really!
Fox the Sly said:
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Haha, my wife and I were having this discussion yesterday morning. It boils down to this: masculine females are unattractive to me, and I treat them as I do hetero and homosexual men. It has nothing to do with what's between their legs, it has everything to do with masculinity. I don't find, for instance, women who body build attractive at all, because they are too masculine to my eyes. Or GGs who are too masculine (square jaw, hooded eyes, lips with little definition, no curves, etc). I'm just not interested. But there are MtF TGs that I find incredibly attractive, because they have all of the feminine qualities I enjoy in GGs. At the end of the day, in the bed room, however we please each other or get our rocks off is our business, but I know for a fact I would never be with a homosexual man or masculine looking female. It's just not my thing. I figured you were exactly the same way.
 

border

Member
shidoshi said:
I hate Oreos, can't stand to eat them in any way, yet I quite enjoy pulling the cookie apart, licking up the creamy center, and then throwing the actual cookies away. I enjoy the Oreo's defining physical characteristic, yet I do not enjoy the overall cookie package.

However, if you then take that creamy center and put it between, say, two vanilla-flavored cookies, I enjoy the entire package, cream and all.

Maybe the question is not if I have to be a fan of the entire Oreo because I enjoy its tasty cream, maybe the question is if god put such delicious cream into the wrong cookie-based cream delivery system in the first place.
I'm lost. In this analogy, is the Oreo cream a cock? Or is it the female body (sans cock)? It could be either, really.
 

Alfarif

This picture? uhh I can explain really!
border said:
I'm lost. In this analogy, is the Oreo cream a cock? Or is it the female body (sans cock)? It could be either, really.

In that analogy, GAF has made me hungry... and I hate you all for it.
 

mollipen

Member
border said:
I'm lost. In this analogy, is the Oreo cream a cock? Or is it the female body (sans cock)? It could be either, really.

What makes this utterly funny to me was that I contemplated putting a spoiler (as a joke) saying "Hint: the cream is a penis."

My weird analogy was that I like one part of the Oreo, but not the entire Oreo itself, and that part that I do enjoy I could enjoy more if used in a different cookie. In the same way, somebody might not like being with a man, but might be able to enjoy those male naughty parts, so if they were attached to a female instead said person might then enjoy the entire package (where they wouldn't have previously).
 

Van Owen

Banned
Jin34 said:
Van Owen: this might help, go look up Chyna and Patricia Araujo, then come back and tell us which one you are more attracted to.

Just did. They're both very unattractive.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have sex with Chyna.
 

Jin34

Member
Damn even Chyna when she started in the WWF? I would have to be so drunk to do it with her, sooooooooo drunk.
 

Van Owen

Banned
Jin34 said:
Damn even Chyna when she started in the WWF? I would have to be so drunk to do it with her, sooooooooo drunk.

You think the other one looked any more attractive before all the plastic surgery?
 

Alfarif

This picture? uhh I can explain really!
Jin34 said:
Damn even Chyna when she started in the WWF? I would have to be so drunk to do it with her, sooooooooo drunk.

I wouldn't, even when drunk. Just the thought of her makes me gag.
 

Cetra

Member
You're thinking of Gwen Araujo, who was murdered by her boyfriend when he found out she was transgendered.

Patricia Araujo is indeed a porn star.
 

lexi

Banned
Oh, great. Thanks. All this chocolate talk, I black out and find that I've bought some Cadbury creme eggs.
 

NoRéN

Member
tehWillis said:
You're thinking of Gwen Araujo, who was murdered by her boyfriend when he found out she was transgendered.

Patricia Araujo is indeed a porn star.
You are very much correct. Damn that movie made me cry like a baby...and almost got me beat up by my dad.
 

Cetra

Member
lexi said:
Oh, great. Thanks. All this chocolate talk, I black out and find that I've bought some Cadbury creme eggs.

Mmmm, Cadburry Eggs. I may have to make a stop on the way to work.

NoRéN said:
You are very much correct. Damn that movie made me cry like a baby...and almost got me beat up by my dad.

Whoa, why'd the Dad freak over that?
 

wRATH2x

Banned
I'm actually attracted to some muscular women, if they looked fit and thin but the only difference is abs then I'm OK with it. As long as she is not Chyna or Hulk Hogan with a vagina(hey that rhymed)
 

NoRéN

Member
tehWillis said:
Whoa, why'd the Dad freak over that?

As much as I love my dad, he's a typical dude with machismo ideals. During my teens he questioned my sexuality. One day, i'm watching that movie, he comes into my room and sees me crying, and asked, "the fuck you crying about!" I said, "Nothing, just a sad movie". He leaves but took notice of what channel I was watching(logo on the corner of the screen). Guess he checked it out, then came back furious as to why I was crying over some dead f**. Basically told me that if I was one of them freaks, he would literally kick my ass out of his house before my bullshit would corrupt his other kids.
He's not a bad man. He's my dad and I love him. But, like many out there, he's just a bit ignorant.
 
NoRéN said:
I was expecting a pic of the porn parody of Edward Scissorhands.
:lol :lol ditto, but that picture is pretty amazing.

NoRéN said:
As much as I love my dad, he's a typical dude with machismo ideals. During my teens he questioned my sexuality. One day, i'm watching that movie, he comes into my room and sees me crying, and asked, "the fuck you crying about!" I said, "Nothing, just a sad movie". He leaves but took notice of what channel I was watching(logo on the corner of the screen). Guess he checked it out, then came back furious as to why I was crying over some dead f**. Basically told me that if I was one of them freaks, he would literally kick my ass out of his house before my bullshit would corrupt his other kids.
He's not a bad man. He's my dad and I love him. But, like many out there, he's just a bit ignorant.
Wow, I couldn't imagine having to deal with that :(
 

Cetra

Member
NoRéN said:
As much as I love my dad, he's a typical dude with machismo ideals. During my teens he questioned my sexuality. One day, i'm watching that movie, he comes into my room and sees me crying, and asked, "the fuck you crying about!" I said, "Nothing, just a sad movie". He leaves but took notice of what channel I was watching(logo on the corner of the screen). Guess he checked it out, then came back furious as to why I was crying over some dead f**. Basically told me that if I was one of them freaks, he would literally kick my ass out of his house before my bullshit would corrupt his other kids.
He's not a bad man. He's my dad and I love him. But, like many out there, he's just a bit ignorant.

Oh wow. That's pretty harsh. I'd have probably bailed after an incident like that myself. Stronger than I, you are.
 

NoRéN

Member
NewGamePlus said:
Wow, I couldn't imagine having to deal with that :(

tehWillis said:
Oh wow. That's pretty harsh. I'd have probably bailed after an incident like that myself. Stronger than I, you are.
It was a very demoralizing day. To hear a parent, one of those few people in the world who you assume will be there for you no matter what, speak to you like that, it was devastating. I thought of just leaving. But, where would I go? So, I stayed. There were other incidents like that. But, it's all in the past now.
 

Alfarif

This picture? uhh I can explain really!
NoRéN said:
As much as I love my dad, he's a typical dude with machismo ideals. During my teens he questioned my sexuality. One day, i'm watching that movie, he comes into my room and sees me crying, and asked, "the fuck you crying about!" I said, "Nothing, just a sad movie". He leaves but took notice of what channel I was watching(logo on the corner of the screen). Guess he checked it out, then came back furious as to why I was crying over some dead f**. Basically told me that if I was one of them freaks, he would literally kick my ass out of his house before my bullshit would corrupt his other kids.
He's not a bad man. He's my dad and I love him. But, like many out there, he's just a bit ignorant.

It was stuff like this that pretty much made me hate my father for the better part of my pre high school, high school, and post high school life. I'm a pretty emotional guy, and I cry fairly regularly. He bottles up his feelings. Some of the things he's said to me... kind of like what you said yours did to you. He and I have repaired our relationship and we're great friends now, but I still remember some of the stuff he said.

Edit: On another note, any other movie recommendations? I've watched TransAmerica, which was pretty decent, and I have A Girl Like Me: The Gwen Araujo Story in my "queue" now. I've seen Boys Don't Cry, so I can scratch that one off my list. I'm looking for all kinds, whether they deal with someone's abuse, or just the process of transitioning.
 

lexi

Banned
Alfarif said:
Edit: On another note, any other movie recommendations? I've watched TransAmerica, which was pretty decent, and I have A Girl Like Me: The Gwen Araujo Story in my "queue" now. I've seen Boys Don't Cry, so I can scratch that one off my list. I'm looking for all kinds, whether they deal with someone's abuse, or just the process of transitioning.

Have you seen Soldier's Girl?
 

Fox the Sly

Member
Alfarif said:
Edit: On another note, any other movie recommendations? I've watched TransAmerica, which was pretty decent, and I have A Girl Like Me: The Gwen Araujo Story in my "queue" now. I've seen Boys Don't Cry, so I can scratch that one off my list. I'm looking for all kinds, whether they deal with someone's abuse, or just the process of transitioning.

I can't think of any other movies, and perhaps you've seen this already but I'll post it for anyone interested.

MTV's True Life: I'm Changing My Sex
 

NoRéN

Member
Alfarif said:
It was stuff like this that pretty much made me hate my father for the better part of my pre high school, high school, and post high school life. I'm a pretty emotional guy, and I cry fairly regularly. He bottles up his feelings. Some of the things he's said to me... kind of like what you said yours did to you. He and I have repaired our relationship and we're great friends now, but I still remember some of the stuff he said.
Good to hear you have a good relationship with your dad now. What I mentioned coupled with some other issues never really allowed for our relationship to have a chance to get better. High School and post High School I became more of a house mate rather than a member of the family. I always felt like I was the guy renting a room upstairs. But, along came my lady. Moved in with her a little over 1 year ago. Life is better. No more worrying about hiding my make-up of victoria's secret lotion(they smell so damn good and leave the hands so so soft).
My dad and I still talk. But, our conversations never have that father-son feel, it's more of a casual words with an acquaintance.

edit:That True Life episode is great.
 

Alfarif

This picture? uhh I can explain really!
lexi said:
Have you seen Soldier's Girl?

Nope, but I'm on it! Based off of what the wiki said, I think I saw a preview for this at some point and thought it looked interesting but never got around to actually seeing it.

Fox the Sly said:
I can't think of any other movies, and perhaps you've seen this already but I'll post it for anyone interested.

MTV's True Life: I'm Changing My Sex

Wait, what? They have full episodes of True Life on their site? Oh god... I'm in heaven now.

Edit: I would like to say that Elle is ridiculously cute. I'm not typically into blondes, but I would be into her in a heartbeat.

NewGamePlus said:


That is one heck of a master list. Good looking out!
 

lexi

Banned
I think it's more of an iconic gay movie, but I really love Priscilla. It does have Terrence Stamp playing a transwoman.
 

Alfarif

This picture? uhh I can explain really!
tehWillis said:
Thanks for that link, was a lot better than I expected it to be. And
poor Elle, losing her Mom. Sooooooo sad. ; ;

Yeah... I
cried for her.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
im at the first commercial break in the MTV True Life video and its been great so far. The dinner scene with Teddys family was kind of bittersweet. It was touching to see that his father is supportive. Stupid commercials are over.. back to watching :)

quick edit: was also nice to know that Teds wife was understanding and did not care :)
 

Amalthea

Banned
tehWillis said:
I really really wanted to do the same. But evil Baron Testosterone Von Stinkybriches wouldn't let me. =(

Yeah that sucks, wanting to cry but you can't because of some stupid biochemy. :(
 

Fox the Sly

Member
lexi said:
Is there anyway to watch this if you're outside the US? Is there anything worse then regional filters?

You could try proxies, but I can rip it for you if you like.

Edit: Seems almost impossible to rip!
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
Android18a said:
Hmm, its an asos one. I have the link at home, I'll show yous laters after work!
Looking forward to it.

Internet shopping is my bane. ive been doing a clothing fast for a long time due to my financial situation.. and having all sorts of stuff at my fingertips is excruciating :lol

edit:

So i have a sister out here where i live and she has really crappy hours.. graveyard shift and whatnot. Weve looked for a support group and finally found a place thats on her day off so yay! We plan on going together next meeting :D

Oh, and that MTV show was really great.. very sweet how things turned out. Was a great watch :)
 

Cetra

Member
Number 2 said:
So i have a sister out here where i live and she has really crappy hours.. graveyard shift and whatnot. Weve looked for a support group and finally found a place thats on her day off so yay! We plan on going together next meeting :D

That's awesome! You're lucky to have such a supportive sister. Hope you enjoy the meeting and all goes well. :)
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
tehWillis said:
That's awesome! You're lucky to have such a supportive sister. Hope you enjoy the meeting and all goes well. :)
Oh shoot.. now i feel embarrassed. Shes not a relative but she is a sister. Umm, we are both collared to the same Mistress so we are sisters in that regard.
 

lexi

Banned
Number 2 said:
Oh shoot.. now i feel embarrassed. Shes not a relative but she is a sister. Umm, we are both collared to the same Mistress so we are sisters in that regard.

*laughs*
 

Koshiba

Member
Android18a said:
For the non-trans people here: Would you date a trans-girl/guy? Or how would you respond if the person you'd been dating revealed they were trans after you'd been out a few times (and likely grown fond of already)? Would it change things for you, or would you find it irrelevant? Would you expect to be informed of your date being trans before you went out together, or wouldn't you mind if it came up later?

Curious as to how you guys think here. Sorry if this was asked and I missed it.

I definitely would.. Female here though.. But I consider myself to be attracted to both male and females anyway. If I find someone attractive, it doesn't really matter what sex they are/were/etc. I do think it is something that is better off brought up asap though.. can cause problems later if you wait too long to mention it I would think.
 
Number 2 said:
Oh shoot.. now i feel embarrassed. Shes not a relative but she is a sister. Umm, we are both collared to the same Mistress so we are sisters in that regard.

Didn't see that coming =3

Not my scene, I must admit, but its cool that you've met new people that you can be close to one way or another <3
 

Alfarif

This picture? uhh I can explain really!
Number 2 said:
im at the first commercial break in the MTV True Life video and its been great so far. The dinner scene with Teddys family was kind of bittersweet. It was touching to see that his father is supportive. Stupid commercials are over.. back to watching :)

quick edit: was also nice to know that Teds wife was understanding and did not care :)

The best part was that Ted looked EXACTLY like his father after he started transitioning and EXACTLY like his mother when he was still female. The apple didn't fall far from the tree at all.

Number 2 said:
Oh shoot.. now i feel embarrassed. Shes not a relative but she is a sister. Umm, we are both collared to the same Mistress so we are sisters in that regard.

I don't know if you've heard of the Sword of Truth series, but this just gave me Mord Sith flashbacks. If you don't know anything about it, don't ask.
 
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