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Transgaf: 'cause boys will be girls (and vice versa)
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InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Yeah, it wasn't focused on displayed hit-bait at one point though. I'm pretty sure he threw it in there to get some people arguing and generate more hits.tiff said:
lexi said:
If you're talking about the comments on Sankaku, I don't care about those. I was more talking about the pics, how cute the kid was, and how funny I thought the Japanese reaction comments were (the ones in the orange box with the pics, which I didn't think were at all offensive).
alysonwheel
Member
tiff said:
Shitty article, but I laughed at how many people were all muscled up in their before pictures. Was down seeing my parents last week, mum pointed out the weights I bought when I was a teenager are still in the garage...
Instigator
Banned
trollcity said:
Plastic surgery?
Instigator
Banned
Angelina Jolie lips? Trim the jaw line? More pronounced cheek bones? Make her eyes appear bigger somehow? But I don't think she needs any of it.
But if she comes back and post some photos, maybe she'll prove us wrong. I'm still skeptical though.
But if she comes back and post some photos, maybe she'll prove us wrong. I'm still skeptical though.
FFS is something most transwomen consider to be 'on the table' regardless of how well their bodies react with HRT. There's usually something we see about our faces that we consider... not ideal. A masculine feature. For me, it's my nose and I'm counting the days down to when I'll be able to have it fixed.
Pain? Pain is temporary and there are painkillers.
Yes, it's true. I tagged along, however I had to provide my own weapons.
Pain? Pain is temporary and there are painkillers.
Yes, it's true. I tagged along, however I had to provide my own weapons.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Dead Man said:
Out of curiosity, are all of you ok with a 10yr old making the change or do any of you believe that he should wait at all?
This isn't effectively 'the' decision. It's drugs that block the onset of male puberty and is at this stage and for quite some time, completely reversible. Although I'd say if she has been living as a girl since 2008, attending school as a girl, etc, this isn't some random whim of a child.
Well, between these 2 statements that I probably should have bolded:Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
I think it is a bit of a special case. Do I think all kids would be in a position to make that choice at that age? Probably not. But it sounds like the courts took a lot of information into account, and reached what they though was the best solution.
VGChampion
Member
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
The only thing I would wonder about doing this so early is health reasons / puberty.
I'm no doctor and have no medical knowledge but it would make me wonder but if they say it's okay, I guess it's okay.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Before puberty is about as ideal you can get.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Skipped over the reversible point somehow. I'm just curious since I've seen other people in here debating back and forth whether to go through with it and wondered if they felt 10yr is too young.
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Sure there can be health concerns but if the parents, the doctors and the court are agreeing what can we argue?
This kid can be lucky that the class-mates accept her instead of turning her life into hell.
And now for something completely different.
Brian Griffin
Member
She says she's a girl trapped in a boys body, has been checked out by doctors, and has been living publicly as a girl since 08. If she were my kid, making the change would be the only option in my mind. Puberty is a trans person's worst enemy so I think it's awesome when kids can be diagnosed before hand and their family supports them.Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Hi Jamie.
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
I can totally understand the hesitation some people have when hearing this, because let's face it - what kids like or what at that age and what they like or want later in life are totally different.
That's why you have to be very careful and be sure to determine that there is a serious case of gender dysphoria there, and it isn't just a case of "grass is greener on the other side". I think if doctors are sure that the child's feelings are genuine, then go for it. If I could travel back in time to change how things we or knew then what I know now, I'd love to have had things start at that age. I can't even begin to express how much I wish I could have experienced that portion of my life on the other side, instead of it always being nothing more than a "what if" scenario.
There obviously is the worry about the child having regret later in life, and that's a valid worry. Not everybody who transitions ends up being happy that they did - but I wonder if there's any kind of data as to why that happens. Was it a case that those people were trying to run away from who they were, and thought that changing their sex might be a way to fix that? Or was it a case that they found themselves unable to be passible, and thus couldn't stand how society treated them?
In those two cases, this child would be far better off I have to image; I doubt a child's mind would consciously or subconsciously decide upon gender identification as a solution to other problems, and starting things before puberty is going to be a huge help in passibility. If the reasons for regret stem from other issues, however, you never know.
alysonwheel
Member
shidoshi said:
Me too. I mean, right now I'm a pretty happy and comfortable early thirties, but I transitioned at 21. I'll never know what sort of person I would have been if I'd been a teenage girl instead of a sullen, depressed, self-harming teenage fuckup. It took me a long time to get over all that.
There's only so much you get out of saying 'I really wish I had done this earlier / sooner'. I like to take a more optimistic approach and be happy that I did what I did.
I'm not yet into being full-time for a year, and it's already made an immeasurable positive impact into the quality of my life.
I'm not yet into being full-time for a year, and it's already made an immeasurable positive impact into the quality of my life.
FleaTheMagician
Member
Someone I knew from a Pokemon chat room 6 years ago IM'd me today. They wanted to apologize to me for giving me a hard time about being trans way back then, and that they were now trans. I have not talked to this person in 6 years, they said that my story, and the things they said to me stuck in their head for years. I didn't think I'd ever have that much of an impact on anyone's life, ever.
samus i am
Member
Soooo there is a thread on gaf where a transgendered person tried to use the female bathroom. The girls took issue with this and yelled. The person wouldn't leave so they started pulling and punching and kicking. My question is has anyone ever been in a similar situation and what bathroom do you use?