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Trials Fusion |OT| webm required for proper OT experience!
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BruiserBear
Banned
Have you bought or played a lot of games? Have you downloaded lots of demos, deleted them later? Basically, has your hard drive seen a lot of action?
RoadHazard
Gold Member
This shouldn't matter much on a PS4, because the file system used (UFS) doesn't get fragmented the same way NTFS does on a Windows computer. If that's what you're getting at. Also, he says that these issues only happen while online.
Anyway, I've definitely noticed some hitching as well. Nothing as serious as what he's describing, but some choppy menu stuff (usually as the game has just been launched), and some rare brief pauses during gameplay.
I find the triggers ok. They have a tiny bit less travel than 360, but the softer feel means they are easier to press, and I find the finger position more relaxed than on 360 ( 360 position is a bit high up for me)
Same herePretty disappointing
I caved and bought some stick covers. No regrets. It's ridiculous to be playing a game and worrying about whether you're wrecking the controllers - a problem I no longer have.
Droopaloop
Banned
If anyone needs anybody on their Xbox One leaderboards add me and send me a message on Xbox Live.
Edit: meant to say quote for my gamertag.
Edit #2: I think I got you all. Thanks.
Droopy06
Edit: meant to say quote for my gamertag.
Edit #2: I think I got you all. Thanks.
Droopy06
I don't think there is a list for that console. You're welcome to add me though.
BruiserBear76
FYI, if you add people on XB1 you cannot see their times. They need to add you back for that to happen. It shouldn't work that way, but it does for this game because the devs screwed it up. Probably will be fixed in a future patch though.
Added you!
And you too!
Droopaloop
Banned
First go at this fucker. Whoever made that damn jump at the end can go and screw himself with a rusty pole.
The one with a slanted platform and the box? Cause fuck that obstacle so hard, it's the only thing currently keeping me from potentially sub-10 fault run.
What I don't like about the game is, that the physics and behavior doesn't seem to be very consistent so that you can't really "extrapolate" what to do for certain obstacles, especially in terms of leaning. Above all that, the leaning is too sensitive. Too much trial and error and lucky random jumps imho.
toythatkills
Member
I find this an odd criticism because if it was true, you wouldn't have a top-tier of players who were platinumming every track. You're basically saying that every track (the extremes particularly) come down to luck and that can't be true.
BruiserBear
Banned
The XB1 triggers do feel better for this game, but don't go thinking it's a huge difference. It's really not.
I'm pretty sure that is not a glitch at all. It's an advanced technique the developers are well aware of.
I think it's easy to feel that way when you're just getting familiar with the harder tracks. When you see how much control an expert player has over that bike, it's very apparent how solid the controls/physics actually are.
Get your bike stuck on an obstacle and press gas and brake at the same time. This will level your bike.
One of the advanced techniques used for the ninja tracks and also extremely helpful for the unyielding challenges because it helps you level your bike while in the air.
The FMX control scheme feels like a puppet on strings, very clunky to me. I got like 44k points on the first daredevil one after several attempts, but the one where you have to do the specific trick shown on the board, that one will take some practice for me. (I got the superman one, that's it) I can't register the uplay thing so not sure what the point of that is. Currently at 93 medals, game was worth $20 for sure. During the sale, went and got Urban Trials Freestyle for 99 cents, that game is pretty fun, too.
Maybe luck was the wrong word but for certain obstacles you can't use techniques you learned earlier although they should work so you try until you find a way to pass it.
But maybe I'm just a bad player.
This kind of stuff is necessary with a high skill ceiling
I like it though, thanks to the ridiculously precise systems, I know I can always get better
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Added some people from the NeoGAF_Trials account. I'm coming after you, Zack_Zavage! (Will probably take some time though. I'm not nearly as consistent as you on the Extreme tracks yet.)
The physics are definitely absolutely consistent. In fact, they are 100% deterministic (meaning that they will always behave exactly the same given the same input). They have to be, because otherwise replays (which are just a series of saved controller inputs being played back in real-time) wouldn't work, etc.
So it's you that aren't consistent. But don't worry, you'll feel more and more as one with the bike the more you play!
The physics are definitely absolutely consistent. In fact, they are 100% deterministic (meaning that they will always behave exactly the same given the same input). They have to be, because otherwise replays (which are just a series of saved controller inputs being played back in real-time) wouldn't work, etc.
So it's you that aren't consistent. But don't worry, you'll feel more and more as one with the bike the more you play!
Getting this too, coudl be a server issue if you leave it a while it eventually loads.
FairXchange
Member
This game is amazing. I played Trials 2 on 360 and enjoyed it, but I finally 'get' the game this time around. The physics are just sublime, and the graphics on PS4 are beautiful. Nevertheless, I'm not that great at the game so I'm really putting in a lot of effort to get Gold on the 'Hard' levels. I'm glad I picked up the version with the season pass because when I eventually get to the end game, I know I'm going to want more eventually.
Cheese move?
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Pretty sure you didn't! Trials 2 was PC only.
...oh, are you one of those people who think Trials HD was the first Trials game? Well, it wasn't! It was really Trials 3. Evo was 4, this is 5.
FairXchange
Member
Oh I see! Um.. I played the second iteration of Trials on 360 then. Either way, Fusion has really opened my eyes to this series and has hit the right notes for me in terms of variety, challenges and presentation.
Just a heads-up: Season Passes have been fixed for everyone who bought the Deluxe edition on Steam. You should be able to find the code by right-clicking the game's name in your Steam Library and choosing "CD keys".
Side note: Is it just me or does the Rabbit feel like it's the easiest bike to complete Frost Bite with? I feel like I'm much more consistent with it than the Pit Viper. Strange, since I expected it to be harder...
Side note: Is it just me or does the Rabbit feel like it's the easiest bike to complete Frost Bite with? I feel like I'm much more consistent with it than the Pit Viper. Strange, since I expected it to be harder...
blazeuk
Member
If it wasn't for the fairly large jump on Rock of Rages, the rabbit would be amazing for it, I can get through pretty much the whole thing without faulting except for hitting the big jump consistently. Wouldn't give as good a time as one of the faster bikes would do though.
The Albatross
Member
This isn't true. The physics are very consistent unless the track is specifically one with weird physics, but Trials Fusion doesn't have any tracks with exception physics. Evo had a few, like the Limbo map, heavy gravity maps, shifting maps, etc.
There could be some maps where the camera perspective is different or there is an angle which makes the physics seem different. But, as far as I know, the physics on the RedLynx maps are all consistent. User created maps that's not necessarily the case.
Eh... if you want to start getting technical...
Trials 2000 Java[3]
Trials Bike Basic 2003 Java
Trials Bike Pro 2003 Java
Trials Construction Yard 2004 Java
Trials Mountain Heights 2005 Java
Trials 2 2007 Flash, Windows
Trials Dynamite Tumble 2008 Flash
Trials 2: Second Edition 2008 Windows
Trials HD 2009 Xbox 360
Trials Legends 2010 Windows
Trials Evolution 2012 Xbox 360, Windows
Trials Frontier 2014 Android, iOS
Trials Fusion 2014 PlayStation 4, Windows, Xbox 360, Xbox One
You mean landing the back fender on the edge, which wedges your wheel, and pulling yourself up? This isn't a cheese move, it's consistent in the series for years. You just have to line it up. Most times it happens, it's an accident. As far as I know, there are no RedLynx maps that use this on purpose... Any space you can use this on, there's probably a more efficient way of doing it, because it's difficult to be precise with it. But a lot of user created extreme ninja maps will make this a requirement (at least, in Evo there was)
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Yeah, I know there are more than 5 titles, but I was just counting main entries. That makes HD the third, Evolution the fourth, and Fusion the fifth. My point was really just that this series didn't begin with HD on the 360, which many seem to believe.
Yeah, that one. Took me a solid 400 tries (accidentally pressed back instead of B a few times there..) to nail
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I still haven't "nailed" that bastard (by which I mean being able to consistently get past it). It's the main thing standing between me and a zero-fault run of that track. Best so far is 3 faults.
CitizenCope
Member
I don't get how or why this game clicks when it does. Played it for the first time in nearly a week and I get 500th place on Peak Performance on my second run today. Cut about a second and a half off a track I was struggling to "perfect" when I was playing non stop. I'm quitting this track for the night after only 2 runs as I know I could put in another hour and not cut off a half second.
BTCurley
BTCurley
Duxxy3
Member
It's just not clicking. It feels like I'm not moving at all, or going full blast and doing wheelies. Oh well, I know for the future anyhow.
Droopaloop
Banned
Inferno time.
Nice. I feel like I'll platinum inferno long before I platinum any of those FMX tracks. That stuff is infuriating.
Ken Masters
Banned
I was going to limit it to 100 but there's plenty of people at the end with lots of hours put in, just lower overall scores. So I thought they were worth adding.
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There is a way to check total play time? How do get to this leaderboard?
From the leaderboard option on the front menu.
In other news, I think I've finally figured out the technique on the parts I was struggling with on Rock of Rages and Frost Bite. That's not to say I can pull them off every time (or even close to every time), but at least they don't feel so impossible anymore.
yes, thanks you all for your Input. I will give this a try.
you can see it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N6i8V7xG8nY#t=78
The Albatross
Member
Yep. Fmx is the anti-trials. A game that is all about precision and technicality is reduced to dumb luck and arbitrary points. RedLynx really goofed with fmx.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Decided to try it. My first Trials. That Fusion Frenzy map on level two, that was super fun and creative!
#2? I gotta play more I guess.I was going to limit it to 100 but there's plenty of people at the end with lots of hours put in, just lower overall scores. So I thought they were worth adding.
Why is that called a cheese move? I use it sometimes. There was a shortcut on a Trials HD track that required it. A lot of Ninja tracks require it too.
cr_blah_blah
Member
Check leaderboards from the first menu. You can always check your own time/progression by pressing LB, I think, on PS4.
becasue to someone coming to the game for the first time (like me) it does look cheesy as hell.
Im surprised this is a legit move, even one your supposed to do.
For an otherwise realistic physics centred game this completly blows it.