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True Detective - Season 2 - We get the Season we deserve - Sundays on HBO
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Ape Gone Insane
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Attention has to be earned through a gripping mystery, good set-up, engaging characters, good dialogue, good writing and good pacing, not by mumbling off a dozen generic names every now and then, treating characters with barely any screen time as significant and throwing in convoluted subplots.
Anton Sugar
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Yeah, I've always loved Cohen, but wasn't sold on it as the intro initially. I really like it now.
Between this show and Game of Thrones, I think I just can't tell white people apart and that's why I get confused by the story. At least with the latter, they killed off half the cast and simplified things.
Stan is definitely the one in the raven mask.
Best part about the series.
Stan is definitely the one in the raven mask.
Best part about the series.
Its a labyrinth of pitch black tunnels that Paul has no experience with - its a pretty safe bet he'll take one of of the obvious exits close to where they came down, and not risk getting lost somewhere hes at a huge disadvantage.
lastflowers
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I feel like that's Cohen in general, though. He's a grower.
Hari Seldon
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It really does seem like someone wrote a murder mystery trilogy of novels and they hacked it up into 8 episodes.
Avatar quote.
Game of Thrones is fine on its' own, I marathoned the whole series two weeks ago and found the most vocal critics of it had read the books. My point is that even GoT is leagues more consistent than TDs2 in more departments than just writing.
Back on topic: Intro credits have grown on me too, I like how they've subtley changed over the course of the season.
Good God I can barely summon an hour of attention per week for this show; I can't imagine wanting to, or being able to, watch eight hours in succession, regardless of how it could potentially aid my comprehension of the needlessly overwrought plot.
To have a show that's binge-able, it needs to be edge of your seat entertainment. Breaking Bad I easily binged like a fiend because the show was so patently set in a heightened level of reality where it was bigger than life and exaggerated to a degree in order to make it supremely entertaining.
This show, I swear it's less exciting than real life. If Breaking Bad was a hyper reality where surreal stuff could happen in an effort to entertain the audience, this show is like, a sub reality. It's not trying to entertain or intrigue you -- if it accidentally happens, so be it, but it's not actively trying to be entertaining. It's almost testing you -- trying to break you -- how much mundanity can you tolerate? It's almost like it's trying to bring its audience down to the point where they become as drab, lifeless, and jaded as all its characters.
Auto correct obfuscates everything!! Don't get all apoplectic on us now.
Good episode, would have been a great episode 4 in a season that hadn't completely shit the bed in the storytelling department. What I really don't get is how absolutely terrible the pacing/editing is. Even in this otherwise decently paced episode they broke up the Woodrough action scene by splicing in the Ani and Velcoro make-out session for no reason whatsoever.
Anton Sugar
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The whole mansion op+this latest episode would have been perfect at the middle of the season. Just getting hints of whatever Ani went through, we have a face for some of our bad guys, Frank is DOING THINGS.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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HighResTomato
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How would they ever make that case?
1. They went into that mansion without a warrant/invitation.
2. Stole documents.
3. Murdered security personnel doing their job
How would this ever stand in court?
1. They went into that mansion without a warrant/invitation.
2. Stole documents.
3. Murdered security personnel doing their job
How would this ever stand in court?
I felt that scene was well done in showing how merciless Frank was by watching the man die out. The camera lingered on Paul as writhed and spat out blood. Kind of like watching a bug die slowly from poison where it twitches for a while, then stops.
pizzamayne :bow
You didn't know who Stan "The Man" was? For shame.
I'm sure this is what everything was thinking about.
I think Pizzalatto wanted to avoid the trope where revelations about the case come about during character development scenes - you see this in basically every network procedural.
The problem is that the way he's done it basically proves he probably doesn't know how the go around this trope, cause there's almost no connect between the characters investigating the case. That just makes those info dumps about the case even worse. It almost feels like busywork they have to do when they're not interacting/working through their sordid pasts. As for Frank, well...
No. Paul Woodrugh, the cop.
Oh shit. I need to learn how to read lol.
Yeah, that scene was pretty lame considering I didn't care too much about him. His death is ironic though.
Devilinthiscity
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LOL what? Come on pizzaman. At least I actually enjoyed the Vince Vaughn scenes for once.
Vampirolol
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After the first 3 weak episodes, the series is now worthy of the name I think. There are still many problems but at least I like all the characters, the ending of the latest episodes though... 
Admiral Woofington
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This was Vinnies strongest episode.
Rachel and Colin also did great. The writing is still lulz but a solid performance from everyone all around. Goodbye serious face blowjob bro. We hardly knew ye. Because you had the least development.
Rachel and Colin also did great. The writing is still lulz but a solid performance from everyone all around. Goodbye serious face blowjob bro. We hardly knew ye. Because you had the least development.
StopMakingSense
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Man, that recon mission of theirs was the stupidest thing. Got them made, got the one person on their side able to do anything (the Asst. AG) killed. Girl they saved was a red herring, and will also probably be killed at some point.
GG team.
Also, Blackwater coincidentally working for Catalyst is dumb.
GG team.
Also, Blackwater coincidentally working for Catalyst is dumb.
Future PhaZe
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Frank: I'm gonna get Stan to tail Blake
*stan dies*
Frank: Who the fuck would ever want to hurt Stan?
Admiral Woofington
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Time is a fucking circle
Ape Gone Insane
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LOL what? Come on pizzaman. At least I actually enjoyed the Vince Vaughn scenes for once.
Between this and bad pussy, I'm not sure which is worse.
It's all thematic though. The entire season is about people who deliberately make bad life choices and suffer for it. Even the audience is not excluded from this. We choose to continue to watch this, and we suffer for it.
brianmcdoogle
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So, this was Vince Vaughn's best episode. And, I was surprised when Farrell got into the car with his superior and she was dead. That caught me off guard.
That said, I'm disappointed, but not surprised, that the gay character eded up a martyr, the platonic cop duo hooked up, and the constant info-dump speeches from characters.
Not the worst episode in the season, not the best, and at least the pace was brisk. I'm still a bit shocked by how redundant and unnecessary Kitsch's character had been, and the extreme conservatism of the show's stance on sex. If feels quite regressive for something in 2015 from HBO.
That said, I'm disappointed, but not surprised, that the gay character eded up a martyr, the platonic cop duo hooked up, and the constant info-dump speeches from characters.
Not the worst episode in the season, not the best, and at least the pace was brisk. I'm still a bit shocked by how redundant and unnecessary Kitsch's character had been, and the extreme conservatism of the show's stance on sex. If feels quite regressive for something in 2015 from HBO.
LOL what? Come on pizzaman. At least I actually enjoyed the Vince Vaughn scenes for once.
Rachel's face after she says it was also my face.
This critique of the viewership is really reductive and lazy
Battersea Power Station
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Haha brutal
Pitch Black Flint
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Yeah, the more I think on what bothers me most about this season, being too fast paced for the show it's trying to be, I keep thinking back to the scene with Frank and Ray in the bar. The one where they're drinking the bottle of scotch and Ray just keeps gulping it down.
Frank: "You're supposed to savor it."
Ray: "Let me give that another shot... 'gulp'"
Bam Bam Baklava
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People still think Birdman is Burris? That makes zero sense up to this point.
Who is Burris
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
the tall lanky guy that looks like a bird
Rastafarian42
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LOL what? Come on pizzaman. At least I actually enjoyed the Vince Vaughn scenes for once.
Lmao busted out laughing when she said it.
Insane Metal
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LOL what? Come on pizzaman. At least I actually enjoyed the Vince Vaughn scenes for once.
LooooL thank goodness I don't watch this anymore, it's like torture. But I keep visiting this thread to see golden stuff like this.
dead souls
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Bam Bam Baklava
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u r wrong
rekt
Anton Sugar
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Admiral Woofington
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They took you bird man and you don't belong to them
They left you in one episode, to never come back
And I miss you bird man.
So baaaaaaaaaad
They left you in one episode, to never come back
And I miss you bird man.
So baaaaaaaaaad
Just finished watching it and then proceeded to read TV.com's review. This bit made me holler out in laughter.
Them dropping Stan's name in this episode proved to me, without a shadow of a doubt, there is a far more amazing show out there called "Stan, Man with a Plan" but we'll never get to see it.
What a dynamic character.
Them dropping Stan's name in this episode proved to me, without a shadow of a doubt, there is a far more amazing show out there called "Stan, Man with a Plan" but we'll never get to see it.
What a dynamic character.
Ani's line was fine. Should've ended there. We already got the point that woman enjoyed the prostitution/escort life. We don't need a dumb line like "Everything is fucking".
LOL what? Come on pizzaman. At least I actually enjoyed the Vince Vaughn scenes for once.
I wonder if we'll ever get a reason for melting Caspare's eyes out and Birdman driving him out to the middle of nowhere like he did.
You'd think it would be easier to shoot him unless it was torture that killed him, which I forget if it was or not.
Then there was those parts where Frank saw those water stains everywhere. That was dropped faster than Stan.
You'd think it would be easier to shoot him unless it was torture that killed him, which I forget if it was or not.
Then there was those parts where Frank saw those water stains everywhere. That was dropped faster than Stan.