talisayNon
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The mayor is awesome too
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True Detective - Season 2 - We get the Season we deserve - Sundays on HBO
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TheChewyWaffles
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I've only seen the first episode so far, but I hate the characters. Loathe Farrell's especially. I love Season 1 because of the funny banter intermixed with drama and themes. Season 2 is humorless thus far and has a dizzying array of boring, dead-serious characters. It's like everyone wants to be Matt M and no one wants to be Woody :\
Anton Sugar
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This is stupidly random, but I just rewatched Super Troopers and forgot how the mayor's scene is my absolute favorite.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Admiral Woofington
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You need the comical banter
He was really great in Luck.
Farrell has never been great concealing his accent. He does well enough to sound American, but he has little slip ups.
Anton Sugar
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EDIT: The mayor was great!
I mean, really, it's just a 101-level concept: Marty was Rust's foil.
Velcro is the closest we have to a foil here, but even he is saddled with misery. Which isn't to say that Marty wasn't, but S1 did a fantastic job of showing how Rust's "bullshit" wormed its way, in some manner, into Marty's brain and outlook.
I mean, really, it's just a 101-level concept: Marty was Rust's foil.
Velcro is the closest we have to a foil here, but even he is saddled with misery. Which isn't to say that Marty wasn't, but S1 did a fantastic job of showing how Rust's "bullshit" wormed its way, in some manner, into Marty's brain and outlook.
Oops. Has Pizzaman mentioned anything about The Big Nowhere?
indigo-cyclops
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What is with this guy? I thought we had a legit guy here, but after all these "coincidences" and stories turning up where he straight rips, I can't help but wonder.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I don't even care if the reveal turns out to be disappointing, Birdman is baller as fuuuuuuuuuuck
caw caw
None are in the league of the leads of the first season, plus I don't even know why we're including Vaughn on this list. Without exception he has been a bore the entire time, poorly emoting, conveying no real sense of menace when he otherwise should. I know sometimes actors can make this sort of leap despite their past work, but I am not convinced at all. When he was on the bed talking about his childhood, he just looked void... not like he was discussing a really deeply troubling moment of his childhood. Which is a shame since his role is so major.
Colin and McAdams is fine though, and Kitsch is...well, ok.
StopMakingSense
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I don't agree.
Thought it was supposed to be like that.
He was obviously supposed to be menancing at the very end and he just fell flat.
Anton Sugar
Member
Vaughn looked like he was reading a monologue for an audition.
Maybe they can tie Farrell into the Gunpla Mafia. They have a section in California for imports.
vpance
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He was faking empathy. Maybe went on a line or two too long tho.
There were a few moments where I thought his monologue went into cringe worthy territory, but I think he pulled it off.
I'm fine with not every character being super charismatic, deep, or witty. Feels more real that way. And lots of real people are boring. I don't think any of the acting can be seriously qualified as flat out bad.
Obviously but near the end where he spells out to the guy why he got beat, Vaughn did not portray any level of menancing.
Not to mention scenes where Frank gets angry are unbelievably dull/neutured. I mean look at the "Fucking Casper" scene in that Frank is supposed to be pissed but Vaughn plays him as if he lost a poker game not his life's work.
I actually liked him there, that's the kind of slimeball I was hoping for. So far he's been boring as all hell and he looks it.
Anton Sugar
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This. I feel like Vaughn is playing this character a little too straight, at times. He has moments where there is life, but he (as in, the actor, no the character) just seemed drained. Like Lin wanted him to dial it back and Vaughn really isn't sure what to do.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
I think the issue we're all having with Vince Vaughn is that they should've let the guy be a little...crazy and smile. A bit, idk...Joker-like and totally fucking nuts? It would loosen him up a lot in every scene, and also scare the viewer into believing that he's absolutely batshit crazy and powerful.
Anton Sugar
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Kinda, yeah. Vaughn is all charisma. Make him a low-level crazy "nobody" who ends up being critical to the case, not the goddamn stoic kingpin.
Admiral Woofington
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I gotta agree on Vaughn. I don't think any director would be fine with that performance unless there's something of the character we don't know of, that he keeps extremely cool or some shit, or the director asked for this. I feel like Vaughn being able to crack a bit more sarcastic and a douche like he usually is would help the character.
WarrenMax007
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I need to watch Danger 5 lol. It's just 1:1.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Wasn't there a story floating around where originally McConoughey was gonna get the part of Marty and Harrelson would get the part of Rust, and McConoughey was only willing to sign on if he got to play Rust?
NotTheGuyYouKill
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phazedplasma
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I'll give credit to Pizzaman, pretty sure he doesn't know Danger 5 exists
Admiral Woofington
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Can this show survive if the best character is gone?
All of these pizzaman and hotline miami jokes and I don't see the most obvious one
All of these pizzaman and hotline miami jokes and I don't see the most obvious one
neoism
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always like him really really liked him in Friday Night Lights... he just picks shity roles...
the pacing was great in this ep but wtf.. though... at the very least with that ending Rachel will get more screen time.. she seems to be the lead anyway and really the only reason Im watching..
neoism
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i still hate the track but yeah the visuals are amazing
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I think Pizzaman is secretly a geek like the rest of us and he's playing some long hoax on the television journalists. Dude's probably just a Lovecraft/Hotline Miami/GTA/cop movie fan and he just throws on layers of pretension and philosophy and cynicism to fuck with everyone.
Mr. Saturn
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WarrenMax007
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Pizzaman should throw in Heat-like shootout.
Admiral Woofington
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he's probably referring to 'your lead characters aren't safe'
but let's be honest even game of thrones drops that 'schtick'
Dr_LucienSanchez
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Did you miss the part where
Colin Farrell burned his son's bully in order to appease his god
neoism
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not me... Matty made the show... made the story amazing.... Matty is a better actor than anyone in this season... plus the dialog was better but the main writer dude worked on season 1 for a long damn time. I wouldn't have cared one bit if not for his amazing performance.... I like woody and all but yeah...
Admiral Woofington
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there's no guarantee he's gone people.
Anton Sugar
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I thought I read that MM pushed for Woody as Marty from the get-go (bros for lyfe), but not necessarily related to a change of roles.
Honestly, MM didn't automatically work for me. Actually, maybe it's: Rust didn't work for me.
I think I got on the TD train with episode 2 or 3 (I wanna say 2, but can't remember). Even though I enjoyed it, I remember thinking "MM is good but some of this Rust dialogue is bullshit". Because it did sound sophomoric, "holier than though", etc...everything that Marty was saying! GPhil 101 stuff.
Despite that, however, they still managed to create really lyrical moments with MM/Rust that completely draw you into his character and his world view. They get over the "this guy is full of shit" hump really quicky via Marty, and then THROUGH Marty (his comments start to match Rust's in some ways) and THROUGH the case, MM is validated. Not completely, but enough to pull you in. That's missing for me now.
Anton Sugar
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Ugh, dp, sorry.