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True Detective - Season 2 - We get the Season we deserve - Sundays on HBO

vpance

vpance

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Jarmel said:
Obviously but near the end where he spells out to the guy why he got beat, Vaughn did not portray any level of menancing.

Not to mention scenes where Frank gets angry are unbelievably dull/neutured. I mean look at the "Fucking Casper" scene in that Frank is supposed to be pissed but Vaughn plays him as if he lost a poker game not his life's work.
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Him being the typical flying off the handle gangster would be too cliche. Besides, Farrell is already filling the role of the hot headed personality.

As for why he's so calm and measured, I think the monologue gives us an understanding of why. Cleary he's a guy who's been through a lot of tramuatising events in his life, and has been able to overcome it all to get to where he is now. A desensitized, emo gangster businessman who's careless with money, essentially.
 
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Poimandres

Member
I actually quite enjoy Vaughan's performance here. I haven't had much experience with his comedy stuff so no real expectations. He's fine.

Everyone is fine, except I'm not sold on Kitsch yet. Who knows, maybe he will develop some more as the show progresses.
 
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Caoz

Member
Colin Farrell was making the show for me. Needless to say I was disappointed. I still hope that he had a good quality vest.
 
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Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Everyone's fine, I suppose, but no one is stealing the show nor is there any jaw-dropping chemistry thus far like Harrelson and McConaughey had, to draw you in before the plot machinations really get going. My favorite performances thus far are Kelly Reilly as Frank's wife and David Morse, who may be the only one to have had any fun on set so far. :p

One way or another there's got to be plenty more Colin Farrell.

They get one more freebie from me pretty much... fair or not, Episode 4 has some shoes to fill.
 
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Niraj

I shot people I like more for less.
Caught up on the two episodes over the past two days. I'm not super hooked on it, but I'm interested to see how it pans out. Colin Farrell is great, Rachel McAdams is alright so far, Taylor Kitsch I'm not too big on yet, and Vince Vaughn I thought was better in the second episode than the first. I was pleased to see W. Earl Brown and Abigail Spencer, love the former in most things, and the latter was great on Mad Men and is great on Rectify.
 
F

Fathom

Banned
Tugatrix said:
he's going full garth marenghi this season

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Lol holy shit he didn't actually say this did he?
 
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this_guy

Member
VV's opening monolgue was so bad. It didn't feel like we were watching the character, it just felt like watching someone try to act. And when he finished I wanted to tell him "Good job!" because he got through all his lines.
 
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Blader

Member
Finally watched ep. 2 last night, things are getting more interesting. Definitely didn't see that ending coming! I'll be a little disappointed if he lives though -- surviving a close-range shotgun blast, okay you can stretch that. But then another shotgun blast to the gut at point blank? Come on.

this_guy said:
VV's opening monolgue was so bad. It didn't feel like we were watching the character, it just felt like watching someone try to act. And when he finished I wanted to tell him "Good job!" because he got through all his lines.
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Haha, I had the exact same reaction. That shit should have been cut at least in half before making it to a shooting script.

My issue with Vaughn so far is that his performance seems mostly about just getting through his lines as quickly as he can, as if someone told him that faster delivery makes it more dramatic or something. The only time he's worked for me are his two bar scenes with Ray.
 
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robertsan21

Member
I am guessing everyone saw that painting hanging in the doctors office behind Colling in this episode?

A painting of a birdface...a lot like the one the killer is wearing. Obviously placed there to throw us off :)

 
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Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Blader said:
The only time he's worked for me are his two bar scenes with Ray.
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Those were his best scenes and did hint that he has some command of the character, but both just really underlined to me that so far it really feels like they should've switched roles.

I would have found it pretty compelling to see Vince Vaughn brass knuckle the fuck out of that kid's dad, haha.
 
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-Pyromaniac-

Member
Hawkian said:
Those were his best scenes and did hint that he has some command of the character, but both just really underlined to me that so far it really feels like they should've switched roles.

I would have found it pretty compelling to see Vince Vaughn brass knuckle the fuck out of that kid's dad, haha.
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I think vaughan can pull off unhinged and crazy really well so I hope they put him there before the halfway point. Now that would be something to watch. Between him and Colin there will be no scenery unchewed and it will be glorious.

Fuck I need Nic Cage in season 3 SO BAD.
 
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Mr. Saturn

Member
Blader said:
Finally watched ep. 2 last night, things are getting more interesting. Definitely didn't see that ending coming! I'll be a little disappointed if he survives though -- surviving a close-range shotgun blast, okay you can stretch that for him to survive. But then another shotgun blast to the gut at point blank? Come on.
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There was no blood though on Ferrel's character though after he was shot. Some have speculated that he may have been shot with rock salt, as for why I have no clue, someone trying to send him a message I guess? Otherwise its hard to see how Farrel's character could survive if it were to not be rock salt.
 
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Anton Sugar

Member
The reason I think it's rock salt is that it would be a little contrived if the shooter, wanting to not kill him, just assumed he would be wearing a vest.
 
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Squalor

Junior Member
Anton Sugar said:
The reason I think it's rock salt is that it would be a little contrived if the shooter, wanting to not kill him, just assumed he would be wearing a vest.
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Rock salt or "beanbags" or something.

Even still, either at that range could be deadly.

But if we were supposed to really think Velcoro were dead, Crow Mask would have shot him in the head.

And since it wasn't a head shot, the most obvious answer is that he's alive.

Also, if you saw the preview for episode three, there's something in Lt. Kevin Burris's phrasing that leads me to believe he's alive.
 
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Mister Negative

Member
Finally caught up on ep 2, I unfortunately had it spoiled for me beforehand, but I can safely say I wasn't expecting it to be crowface that shot him, so that was still a nice little surprise.
 
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HellofaMouse

Member
most ppl didnt like the first episode but i think it was mainly a matter not having enough time to get to knowthe characters, or have a good understanding of the plot yet.

second episode was miles better already.
 
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Gozer the Gozerian

Member
Mr. Saturn said:
There was no blood though on Ferrel's character though after he was shot. Some have speculated that he may have been shot with rock salt, as for why I have no clue, someone trying to send him a message I guess? Otherwise its hard to see how Farrel's character could survive if it were to not be rock salt.
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Anton Sugar said:
The reason I think it's rock salt is that it would be a little contrived if the shooter, wanting to not kill him, just assumed he would be wearing a vest.
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Rock salt from that range would be just as bloody as buck shot
 
L

Lan Dong Mik

And why would I want them?
Mister Negative said:
I was thinking it was something to do with the girl from the first ep who I thought was her sister.
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Yeah same here, but then again, we kind of already know she can get a bit freaky in the bedroom herself from the first ep. Might be a little bit of both business and pleasure.
 
GungHo

GungHo

Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
SolidChamp said:
What was with McAdams' character watching porn? Is she researching something?
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I honestly wouldn't have been surprised if they cut away with her starting to play with herself. In fact, I was more surprised that she just stared at it soullessly. These people are all shells. With VV, it's hard to appreciate, because he's always a shallow bastard, but the theme is easier to understand when you see everyone just going through the motions like they're people puppets.
 
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Imm0rt4l

Member
One suggested theory I heard a few days ago regarding rays death
was that it was staged to look like ray was killed. Apparently he may be in line of sight of the recording equipment.

It raises more questions, but we'll see.
 
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XAL

Member
robertsan21 said:
I am guessing everyone saw that painting hanging in the doctors office behind Colling in this episode?

A painting of a birdface...a lot like the one the killer is wearing. Obviously placed there to throw us off :)

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Looks like a photograph of a ceremonial headdress. Which makes sense because the bird face sits on top of the head, rather than over the face.
 
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Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
META said:
So are we to assume that the thing in the passenger seat in the first episode was part of the shooter's bird costume in the 2nd episode? Still confused about that.
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I knew I saw it in the first episode somewhere. Does anyone remember when that was...? It gets tossed into a car's backseat... or passenger seat like you said
 
M

mre

Golden Domers are chickenshit!!
META said:
So are we to assume that the thing in the passenger seat in the first episode was part of the shooter's bird costume in the 2nd episode? Still confused about that.
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Presumably, the killer picked it up during his previous visit to Caspere's love apartment, where, I suspect, he killed Caspere or at least blew his dock and balls off. He then Weekend at Bernied Caspere's corpse down the state to near Vinci, with the bird mask in the car with him.
 
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glow

Banned
Imm0rt4l said:
One suggested theory I heard a few days ago regarding rays death
was that it was staged to look like ray was killed. Apparently he may be in line of sight of the recording equipment.

It raises more questions, but we'll see.
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This would be an awesome twist. I just don't want to see a "Ha, fooled ya! Non lethal rounds!" this week. I'd almost rather Ray be dead than see that even though he's the most interesting character on the show so far.
 
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Imm0rt4l

Member
glow said:
This would be an awesome twist. I just don't want to see a "Ha, fooled ya! Non lethal rounds!" this week. I'd almost rather Ray be dead than see that even though he's the most interesting character on the show so far.
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The theory would justify the use of nonlethal rounds though. Also worth noting that the blood on the floor was still wet, so it can't be caspers.
 
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