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True Detective - Season 2 - We get the Season we deserve - Sundays on HBO

meshwork

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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here already, but I just noticed that wall of different animal masks, and one of them clearly missing can't be a coincidence.

EDIT: Seems like mre mentioned this in a post a few pages back, but here's screencaps of this for anyone who missed it.
 
One thing that's been odd to me is that my girlfriend has been watching Fresh Off the Boat and one of the schoolkids in that plays the (probably illegitimate?) son of Velcoro.
 
Was that rocksalt that was fired into Farrel? Didn't notice any blood.

I think it's rock salt or a beanbag round. An actual shotgun round would have splattered blood everywhere.

If it's a beanbag round, maybe Birdman's a cop? Though I have no idea how difficult it is for civilians to get those.
 

NeoGiff

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I think it's rock salt or a beanbag round. An actual shotgun round would have splattered blood everywhere.

If it's a beanbag round, maybe Birdman's a cop? Though I have no idea how difficult it is for civilians to get those.

If so, this is really weird. I watched the season 4 episode of Justified last night where Raglan has the shotgun with the bean bag rounds.
 

Alpende

Member
Watched it yesterday and I think it was a great episode. It had cool one liners (like sucking a robot dick) and the crazy culty stuff came back, plus that therapist was a creepy guy. I refuse to believe Velcoro is dead, he got shot with a shotgun but we saw no blood splatter on the walls or anything.

EDIT: No blood splatter was already mentioned.
 

deleted

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I'm not sure where I stand yet with this show.

S1 felt really great with the character and visual department for me, but it fell flat with details on the case that were alluded but didn't come through. There was just so much set up, that was never expanded upon and where details would have been nice.

S2 so far has grabbed me neither in the characters, nor in the cinematography. Sure, the night shots of the city and the highways are a thing of beauty, but the way they cut this conversation was really boring e.g.

There was just nothing that stood out as coherent and inventive directing of otherwise relatively plain scenes compared to season one.

Some in this thread say that they don't enjoy it when characters talk so much in shows like this. That is the best part for me. Characters that play off each other and reveal new stuff about them and grow through these conversations. And so far, there was very little here. So far.
I don't expect too much from the case itself, since it's written by the same guy and they while they had not enough time to go through all the details in S1 they have more main characters now. Dedicate more time to the case and the character development and dynamics will fall flat completely.
 
I predict Vince Vaughn will end up being a quasi-good guy, who will help bring down the cult. (I mean, not actually good, but good compared to the cult.)
 
Promo discussion:
if you want definitive proof that farrell's character is alive: In the teaser for the next episode, the police higher up guy says something to the effect of: One of my guys gets shot and you expect me to blah blah blah. If Farrell was killed, that would have been the thing to note, not just that he was shot
 
The thing about rock salt in a shell is that it has so little mass that it very quickly loses its velocity with distance, but at point blank range like in that scene, the effect isn't going to be much less damaging than actual buckshot.
 

Braag

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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here already, but I just noticed that wall of different animal masks, and one of them clearly missing can't be a coincidence.

EDIT: Seems like mre mentioned this in a post a few pages back, but here's screencaps of this for anyone who missed it.

I bet Pizzolatto played some Hotline Miami and got ideas.

Pizzaman is totally a Hotline Miami fan.

beaten :x
 
Yeah, I didn't even think her sister was involved until I read GAF. Any screencaps of her sis?



Haha, yup. Actually really enjoyed anytime he was on-screen.



Fine, you can say that it's not common in TV--I wasn't really referring specifically to the realm of television, just in general. "Angry closeted gay homophobe" is a stereotype.

Like I said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing--lots of great characters start as stereotypes and become something else. Rust and Marty are both stereotypes.
But that's not a stereotype on TV since it's hardly ever been used. That was my point. If that is a stereotype, every single character ever made falls into that category.
 
Pizzaman seems to be both a hotline miami fan and a GTA/Rockstar fan given his Dan Houser easter egg in the first episode. Add to that a Gundam model and either the dude is a closet nerd or someone in the production team is eager to express their inner geek cred.
 
The opening scene of the 2nd episode was really killing me. Every line was a platitude or some philosophical musing and it didn't get going dialogue wise until VV's character had his rat basement monologue.

I'm gonna stick with the show but so far it's unable to pull off the meta dialogue that the first season nailed.
 
But that's not a stereotype on TV since it's hardly ever been used. That was my point. If that is a stereotype, every single character ever made falls into that category.

That's a really strange way of looking at stereotypes or cliches.

Like, if a brand new medium was invented tomorrow and it told a story about a strong black mother whose husband left her with the kids, or a hooker with a heart of gold, or a cop with a drinking problem and a bad family life, I'm not going to give it a pass just because those stereotypes have never been featured in that medium before.

Once again: stereotypes, cliches, archetypes can all be springboards for great characters. I think you'd be surprised how many great characters start off as a cliche, stereotype, and/or archetype, and then evolve to become something more.
 

shadowkat

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Well, episode 2 was better than the first one but I'm still not feeling it. It was boring and the only character I find remotely interesting is Ani. I'll keep watching for now.

I also don't think that Ray is dead.
 
Yeah, to be fair, he could just use that as a starting point for his own story. Hopefully this will be more "inspired by" and less "tribute to Ligotti".
 
The secret occult history of California's highway system as shot like Miami Vice or Collateral, but with I5 and the various little communities of central and northern CA as the "third character" with two main characters who both embody and defy their stereotypes and play off of and challenge each other.

That's the show I want.

Yes please.
 

FTF

Member
I get the feeling this is going to delve into the underbelly of porn. Recording and broadcasting equipment I bet.

.... Not that they didn't hint pretty heavily at it already in the first couple episodes.

Yup, def getting an 8mm vibe with this second episode.
 
Wow no way the dude is dead. Like only ep 2? Nah, im not buying it. Also i agree that so far this season is pretty boring. First season got me hooked ep 1.
 
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