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He left Congress in 2015.
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Trump Fires James Comey
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He left Congress in 2015.
Rogers actually seems to be a not-terrible candidate even though he was involved with the Trump campaign (but got pushed out and has been saying the right things publicly)....but being involved w/ the Trump campaign in any way shape or form makes it impossible for you to take the FBI position given the active investigation.
it shouldn't be a politician, period
Politico has a good article on it
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/12/donald-trump-fbi-kelly-ayotte-john-cornyn-215130
Politico has a good article on it
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/12/donald-trump-fbi-kelly-ayotte-john-cornyn-215130
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
victreeb3l
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What about Steve Rogers for FBI director. He seems patriotic.
KernelPanic
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Oh Christ anybody but fucking Gowdy.
BlastProcessing
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Technically, it needs 51. Politically, it needs 90+.
That's what sane people are doing, and why Trump's actiuons trhis week have been a big fucking deal, and should be adressed.
Seriously, you are exactly making the case for why an independant investigation should definitively happen.
I mean, there's no way that happens for either of those choices
Loyalty > Competency.
BlastProcessing
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Agreed.
It's funny Trump says he wants the Russia stuff to go away but if he gets a politician in there no one will trust the outcome unless his ass gets nailed to the wall (and it won't with a politician). It won't go away ever unless someone everyone trusts says there's nothing
It doesn't really matter whether it's a politician or not at this point. Trump was always going to appoint someone he feels is loyal and will kill the investigation. With Comey gone, we just have to make peace with the fact that the investigation is effectively stalled until at least after the next presidential election.
TheMortarion
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Whoever is the worst possible outcome is probably what will come to be so I expect Gowdy to get it.
GoldenEye 007
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BCU should be happy at least. Liberty was able to beat them for having the worst commencement speaker of the year.
Nobody likes Liberty at all. They're having to schedule the same team twice in the same season just to fill their football schedule this year.
Nobody likes Liberty at all. They're having to schedule the same team twice in the same season just to fill their football schedule this year.
Dead Prince
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LOL fml but then again look at what's happening at the WH right now. you got his whole family there.
Yes.Politco said:
Why do you believe the investigation is effectively stalled? The investigation is too large to be killed by any high ranking Trump appointed FBI stooge.
I watched a documentary on President James Garfield yesterday on Amazon. Can't believe Trump has been in office longer than him. Garfield wanted to get rid of corruption in Washington, went against the New York Senator (who was the most powerful person in Washington at the time), believed that the northerners were wrong in not having troops in the South to keep southern whites from enacting terror on black people, AND most importantly, didn't even want to be president; he was thrust into the position because of how popular he was and the ideas he shared about a better america. Killed because there was no security around the president even though Lincoln was shot just twenty years beforehand. smh. All the while, Trump is still there.
Jorok Goldblade
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It'll be Jared Kushner's 47th job.
Host Samurai
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If it's Gawdy than there should be a riot.
mugurumakensei
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Eh Comey was and still is a good choice. He was chosen because of his prosecutorial and investigative background. As well, he testified against AG Alberto Gonzales despite being the deputy AG.
If not stalled, then irreperably compromised. I can't envision a situation where Trump's stooge doesn't use their authority to damage and hinder the investigation in every way possible, and there's nothing anyone can do about that until Trump is out of office.
There wasn't a riot when Comey was fired. Have there even been any significant mass protests since the Women's March and Muslim ban?
TestOfTide
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And what's Trump and his FBI crony gonna do when the FBI takes Comey's side and refuses to stop investigating? They can't fire the entire FBI and it's looking like pretty much the entire FBI (minus the NY Criminal Field Office) is more loyal to Comey than Trump.
It's the same reason Trump can't do jack shit about all the leaks of his administration.
Maybe I don't understand how the FBI is structured. Does the Director not have the authority to move employees around, hire even more stooges, restructure departments, close investigations, etc.? Everything else Trump has done has been blatant and brazen. Why are we so confident the FBI is safe from that, even if a significant segment of it is loyal to Comey?
BronsonLee
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If they think he's fucking with the investigation, then other governments and the media will just get a massive anonymous infodump
Who do you think keeps backhanding him every time something positive comes out from his camp
Who do you think keeps backhanding him every time something positive comes out from his camp
TestOfTide
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Because we haven't seen that shit happening with the IC in spite of Trump's best efforts to try and make that happen.
Nixon didn't just go down due to his paranoia, a democratic congress, and a persistent press. Nixon went down because there were a shitload of people in the White House who were not loyal to Nixon and Nixon wouldn't have been able to fire them all.
Not just other governments, but the White House itself has a shitload of leakers because Trump is not a leader that inspires loyalty.
If Trump was the kind of guy who was good at making friends out of enemies, then I would worry, but so far all that Trump has done is make himself more and more enemies.
Like I am serious when I ask what is Trump gonna do when hundreds of FBI employees refuse to stop investigating this shit.
What is Trump gonna do when he realizes that nearly every high ranking IC member is secretly leaking shit to the press?
What is Trump gonna do when people in his White House that he thought he could trust end up leaking the "Trump White House Tapes"?
Does Trump have any legal power to simply shut down the FBI, or dismiss people and then not hire replacements? If we safely assume Trump doesn't actually care about the FBI stopping domestic problems, and is more concerned with shutting down the investigation, could he actually take steps to simply empty it out and leave it that way?
I think a very likely scenario for folks want the investigation unsullied is rapid movement on public facing stuff like raids to create enough pressure for Republicans to cave in and start some baseline normalization or at least fret more about midterms and seats.
This activity has already made Trump panic a little
This activity has already made Trump panic a little
TestOfTide
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Think about what would happen if Trump literally tried to strangle the FBI in such a way.
If Trump actually tried that shit, all he would be doing is guaranteeing that the FBI treats Trump as their #1 enemy. As in the FBI would start treating Trump as a bigger threat than domestic terrorists.
Making your own staff into enemies is one of the biggest reasons that Nixon went down.
KernelPanic
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Comey was never an elected politician
The March for Science was like two weeks ago i think
So was the FBI raids at the GOP fundraising firm a shot across the bow telling the GOP to stop covering for Trump no matter what to free the path for impeachment hearings?
Or was it really evidence gathering for a RICO case against the GOP as a body?
The suggested power struggle in the background feels immense.
Mensch's suggestion that the first three in the line of succession are already out is absolutely nuts. I can't believe that at all even though she was right on some things in the past. Maybe she is taken for a ride by forces that want to put more fuel to the fire?
Or was it really evidence gathering for a RICO case against the GOP as a body?
The suggested power struggle in the background feels immense.
Mensch's suggestion that the first three in the line of succession are already out is absolutely nuts. I can't believe that at all even though she was right on some things in the past. Maybe she is taken for a ride by forces that want to put more fuel to the fire?
No but Obama kept him as an outreach to the half of the country who didn't vote for him. Those were the days.
FBI Agents Association urges POTUS to nominate former House Intelligence Committee Chair Mike Rogers as FBI director
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/863474925046296576
Also they forgot to add..."Obama hates Mike Rogers" to the topline. In Bold double-size font.
jellies_two
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* They nominated him last time as well
* He was accused of being a partisan liar last go around doubt that has changed
* The agents association are probably a politically active group who do not actually poll all their members on what they think, but instead claim to speak for them.
It just seems to good to be true (for those of us who want Trump removed from office)
and when it's too good to be true it usually is
Yeah, but in the current political climate, wouldn't Trump have far more support to do this than Nixon did? The Republicans themselves control the majority of government and no longer seem to care about getting re-elected, since they're basically leaving many Trump supporters to die with changes to healthcare, and many Trump supporters themselves are willing to burn democracy down as long as immigrants and democrats get hurt in the process. When you add onto that that Fox controls the majority of mindshare in news distribution and is essentially state controlled media at this point, you have a recipe for actually getting away with it.
I'm just wondering if he actually has the legal power to do so. At this point, I have no questions about how he would succeed if he could actually do it. It seems like a depressingly large amount of American people and American government want to get rid of democracy anyway and switch back over to a monarchy.
NihonTiger90
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It was unrelated to Trump. Has to do with a lawsuit against that firm by the Ken Cuccinelli campaign.
Source? I haven't seen anyone confirm this other than that firm itself.
That's just the story from the company's president, not the FBI. The firm has ties to Roger Stone and Paul Manafort, which is quite a coincidence.
JordanN
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Was this posted?
Trump brags his impeachment will get higher ratings than all impeachments.
Trump brags his impeachment will get higher ratings than all impeachments.
unfortunately, it's satire
KernelPanic
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So FBI Agents Assoc. recommends Mike Rogers eh?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/03/meet-donald-trump-s-top-fbi-fanboy?
More like Rudy recommends Mike Rogers.
Also set up 2 PACs for John Bolton, the top donor in both was Cambridge Analytica.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/03/meet-donald-trump-s-top-fbi-fanboy?
More like Rudy recommends Mike Rogers.
Also set up 2 PACs for John Bolton, the top donor in both was Cambridge Analytica.
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